Sold all my recurve and compound gear, kids gobbled those better bow funds up :-(
So I have to go cheap.......decided to order a Tradtech Pinnacle 2 riser and Black Max reg fiberglass limbs.
If I land a decent job then maybe I'll reward myself with a Blackwidow. Thought this post layoff garbage would have been done by now.
I can take a lot of crap as long as I have a decent deer season (or can look forward to one).
Deer hunting is way more fun than job hunting.
I seem to be better at one of them too ;-)
Good luck with your job hunting AND your deer season sir! :thumbsup:
Thanks.
I have a PT job, but that just means the savings dwindle at a slightly slower rate.
Yeah, I should be thankful for much, and I am.........but that doesn't mean I'm happy with the lack of progress. I look for work, network etc, and pray...........but these lessons on patience have taken their toll.
I hope the new bow changes my attitude, but I bet it won't. I'm pretty grumpy after being a freakin' cheerleader for 2 yrs without any improvement.
Hey good on you!
Family first. Do the right thing (as you are) and God will bless you with the Right Things! Hopefully that includes a BW!
By the way, if you're gonna hold out, a BW is it! Or a Lost Creek! Some cheap bows shoot pretty good too. Got a 2009 Bear Grizzly I just can't seem to get rid of for some reason.
Blessings from Colorado.
Seasons of life. Sometimes we sacrifice and sometimes we live on the fat of the land. Hoping your fortunes change soon.
GOOD LUCK
ive been laid off recently as well thank goodness all i have to provide for is the dog it will get better it has to
:campfire: :archer2:
Thanks.
FWIW I've done the "right thing" for a long time and am rather annoyed at repeatedly having to do it (esp when others who are stupid and or evil don't have to).
Standing still sucks. Going backwards just *&^%$ me off.
Ya know, prayer helps the mind and heart most times, but every now and then a guy just has to kill something.......and no groundhogs are out at this time of night.
Little liberal rodents they are.........some even sound and look like moronic TV personalities.
Maybe now my frustration is better illustrated?
;-)
No archery gear in the house now......whatdya wanna bet a big 'possum strolls into my yard........oh boy, that'll put me over the edge!
I hear ya brother.
The psalms are full of "Why are the A**holes living the high life when I'm so low?"
Hang in there. Been there.
sounds like your mad enough t beat him to death with a bat try it garantee youll feel better
3 kids (all daughters) and 3 freakin cats (plus an ex wife).........I'm having a blast!
At least the dryer is drowning out what noise they are making.
Gotta fetch one from a party......the relative quiet is soon to be gone.
No 'possums (drat).
BTW, I always used a shovel. That rig was a major loss in my divorce......nuked quite a few with that wonderful "FWANG/WHOMP" mixed sound.
FWIW chasing a big 'coon between your neighbor's house and your privacy fence (narrow), in the dark, with no lighting at the rendezvous point..........I don't recommend.
Grabbed my pantsleg as he chaged direction, was rather spooky. I probably haven't done anything as fast since then.
Nope, when it comes to the toothy ones, it's been CB caps since.
Back on topic, I'll post pics of my lowbuck rig when it comes in next week.
Thanks for the well wishes, just kinda sorta needed to vent (due to lack of deathwish critters).
I feel your pain, brother. I was there a few years back. Had to sell all 12 of my custom bows to make ends meet. Went from 12 (6 Toelke longbows and 6 Widow recurves) to nothing pretty quick. I hunted for 2 years with borrowed bows and toughed it out. Was I bitter, YOU BETCHA! I worked my butt off to be able to buy those bows and to see em go made me pretty upset. But hey, I had to do it. Times are better now and I have two bows in my collection, it will get better for you. Just hang in there. Hope everything pans out quickly...Mike
I know what you are going through to i lost my job a week after my son was born we are now stuck living at the in laws un-till i go back to school in the fall. The only bow i have right now is the bow i inherited from my grandfather. I have a dozen new shafts and can't afford a fletching jig to set them up.
Things will get better sometimes it just takes more sacrifice then we are ready for.
Thanks again guys.
I've been through it before, was tolerable then, is just annoying now.
There's more to it (as always) but if I was allowed to transfer way back (new group tried for a yr to get me) I would still be working, stuff would be paid off.......my 401K would never have been touched, and I could have paid next month's college tuition for my oldest in cash.
3 kids, all girls, 3 cats and an ex wife.........all live with me. And there's no man cave.
Hunting season, local, is my only vacation from the grind that I've had for 20 yrs. So anything that might impact that I'm rather sensitive to.
I am in the same boat hookeye, I have been outta work since august with a couple of weeks of work thrown in there a couple times but the company I have been with for 8 of the 12 years I have been in the full time workforce has shut the doors officially and we are all out of work. I am in the frustration and pissed off stage right now as well. My wife is making up what unemployment benefits dont cover but it is still a heavy burden on a man to be without a job and not be able to provide for his family. I have been out for so long my 4 yo daughter doesn't even remember daddy having a job, now that is discouraging. On the positive, I have been able to spend every day with my 4 yo and my 9 month old daughter and that has been a blessing from this bad situation. I feel your pain and frustrations, and will remember you in my prayers for a job when I am praying for myself to find one. Someone wiser than me once said, "Every good man has been through something tough, and it makes us stronger." Good luck.
I lost mine in Oct '08. Didn't think it'd take this long to find something.
Death, divorce, layoff.........I'm plenty strong enough. I'm just getting tired.
I've found jobs listed, applied, even gone to a couple of career fairs.......sorry, I'm not the fave of some liberal spokesperson (who seems to only really talk to others of their type/orientation).
If you've been to such "events" you know what I mean.
Blind applications get about a 2% success rate, and after 1.5 yrs and hundreds of applications......I have yet to get any response. Sure I'm applying to jobs that are around my experience.......but automotive electronics/manufacturing, and manufacturing in general, has taken a massive hit in the midwest.
It was when I got my job long ago "who you know".
I didn't get mine through such channels, was in college, saw a posting there, applied for contract job, got degree, got hired direct and put in 14 yrs after that.
Being an honest and capable person puts one in a small group. One that tends to upset some.
It's along the lines of that old saying:
If you're taller than your boss
if you're smarter than your boss
if you have more hair than your boss,
if you are thinner than your boss
if your wife is prettier than your boss's
you're screwed.
So add in "honest/decent" in the above too.
People who play the systems, less than honestly, hire those who are of that same character.......it's all about favors, who played ball with who back in 6th grade, who has a sister with a big rack somebody wants to date (yeah, missed out on a good job I was perfectly experienced for......due to that one).
Eh, if the rack was as nice as they say, I could kinda sorta see how ;-)
Anyway, it's getting old, logging into sites, networking on the web and in real life. Couple of things though:
Don't be bitter about your old boss/job. I haven't been, it just is what it is, time to move on. Do know from others that bitter will sink you.
Let people know that you are looking for a job. No need to beg, but people have their own lives going on and often don't know or remember what your situation is......even in your intermediate job, be genuinely nice and let those who may have associations know "hey, I'm still looking for a job".
Don't get your hopes up, think that something great will happen in proper time/fashion. It might, and is certainly worthy of prayer..........but don't expect it. That roller coaster is brutal.
I've played it smart, put out the effort.....and I'm about burned out. Folks new to the unemployment circus need to guard themselves from wasted energy and emotion. Hopefully your run will be short, but if not you won't have such things to waste.
Even with a logical and informed approach it can be draining. Add in the personal cost with friends moving, wacky ideas of self worth, selling crap, stress on the family/self.........it becomes a battle after about 6 months.
Think long haul and don't give up.
You can vent now and then, but even so you have to be smart about it. Posting a rant on Facebook might cost you.
Anon venting, like mine on this thread, is rather childish, but dangit......sometimes ya just gotta.
Holding frustrations in all the time, that fire will burn you up.
So if ya gotta vent, do so in a somewhat guarded fashion and tag along some humor too. It lightens the mood for others who may be in a similar boat, keeps things from being too negative.
It gets the desired result of venting........and really, even when things suck bad bad bad.......there is something funny about it somewhere.
Maybe such venting and humor is all that remains after a while.......dunno. Maybe that's a holding stage until things get better.
One can be a realist/optimist to some extent, even when PO'd and dead tired.
Don't let the garbage get to you too much.
Been laid off since Jan. Maybe it will get better.
Been in the same boat. I* was a carpenter and when the bottom dropped out a few years ago as did I. Finally got work now doing landscaping. I actually got the job helping a friend of a friend move and when my current boss had lost a guy asked that friend if he knew anyone that could work. Greatest thing ever. I was a lucky one. Keep your head high and chest stuck out.
Ugh, it gets worse.
My lease is up 7-5 and the landlord (rented a condo to stay flexible due to employment opps) just called the old lady, wants us to commit to a 1 yr lease for $100 more a month.......tomorrow, or she's gonna post signs for sale/lease and we have a 30 day notice whenever somebody else signs.
No big deal there, but the price increase, and pressure tactic, well that kinda honks me off.
She's upside down on the place, it's nice, but with the job losses here, and not being in a bussing zone for the HS......it's pretty much a retirement kind of place......and all those folks have split to FL.
I think we'll be moving in a week or so, get stuck with 1 month of inflated rent. Middle kid is a wuss, and we're in that walk-in zone for HS, so we have to move just to keep the kid on a bus, allow mom and dad to work their low pay jobs to stay afloat.
On a slight plus, it appears that I have to pay 1/2 of what I would for my oldest's college tuition this fall.
That and somebody nice here gave me some info on a possible job opportunity. It's out of state, but that might just be the best thing that ever happened. After eveything else I've learned that it's best to not freak out, just roll with it.......and not be afraid of change.
Next week or so is gonna suck, what with the added stress of finding (or not finding) a place, and then moving.
I'm about ready for some easy stretch.
Good thing my new bow will be lighter in poundage, that moving crap sucks more as one gets older!
What part of Indiana are you from? I know there are several automotive manufacturing places hiring in or near Columbus/Seymour.
It seems like that I remember to tough times more that the gravy times,they seem memorable than the easy times. I don't know if it is me filling more gradification for working through hard times or if they are truly the good times. I always have a good laugh about it years later. At leased you are not out buying new bows and starving you family. I do understand your pain I am stocking shelves at night part time since my job went sour last fall and not putting in on moose and deer hunts I know I would have probably drawn easy. No big travel plans for me but I have a full quiver and lots of game close by so I'm lucky to have that.
My prayers to all who are laid off and looking for work; hope this helps, but while some of you are off, it may be good to look around for a vo-tech school that offers truck-driving classes; having a class A CDL drivers license has been good to me for over 25+ years now; you DO NOT have to drive "over the road" to have a job and if one looks at a sunday paper job listings, truck drivers are in HIGH demand; and a CDL will get you a job no matter where you live; just thought I would pass that along; hope all gets better for all..... :campfire:
FWIW I worked for an automotive electronics manufacturer north of Indy. Advanced development of materials/packaging/process plus supported production.......was a salaried engineering tech.
Worked with some great people and made great progress and products, it was a good gig for a long while.
Got stuck with an animal rights wacko manager, so those yrs were tough. Escaped and things got better, but then my coworker and dear friend, of 20 yrs .........self exited.
I met him when I started there, and he was about the only guy who really understood me.
That loss, well it still affects me (2 yr anniversary coming up). The place lost much of it's shine when he left.
So the job loss sucked, but not as much as it might have. Now it's strictly financial, what I miss, the career aspect there........eh who cares.
Pension gone, other injustice.......it just is what it is.
If I can start over fine, if I can't well screw it. A guy can only try.
The ex (yes, after yrs apart she came back- be careful what you pray for- you might just get it)
wants to move more south, so Seymour area sounds OK.
I'll check into it.
Dunno what wages/jobs there are, do know that lots of places are severely lowbucking jobs. Drive 1.5hrs one way, for a $15 an hr job with no benefits......that's pretty tough to justify.
Heck some are only offering $10.
My landlady changed stuff on us today, thought we had a month or so to find a new place......not. At 8 pm tonight I found a decent place for same rent, my current place was to increase $100 a month.
So some luck has come our way, not without stress.......I gotta pack and have all my stuff moved in 2 days. Gonna be Ibuprofin for lunch and dinner!
If I land a gig elsewhere I'll commute, or get a 1rm apt and come home on weekends until we move.
Sorry to hear about your friend. I lost a friend last year to cancer and can only imagine how you felt. I know about all the time sending emails, phone calls, filling out resume's and job apps and I have only got 1 phone interview that went nowhere and 1 face to face interview that went nowhere because someone else offered to work for 2 bucks less an hour than they were offering the rest of us. Good luck with all your struggles right now.
Thanks CIC, Joe was a good dude, had an illness that left and came back with a vengeance, so he just left (always said if it came to that, he'd leave while others would remember him as he was).
Not part of my belief system, but it was in context with his. Upsetting for sure, but understandable.
He died mid July, I got laid off in Oct. Close enough together to minimize the shock and other of losing my job.
Wasn't much shock, worked in scrap reduction and we saved millions for out assigned areas.....so when it gets that good, all processes documented, made robust to the point of minimal scrap.......it's pretty obvious we literally worked outselves out of a job.
No new products in our areas, management outsourced close to 50% of the product (since we "packaged it and gave it to them on a silver platter".
I understand the ruthlessness of business, what gets me is the lying.
There's no need to lie.
Another item that sat wrong with me: they said they found a loophole in the union contract to outsource part of the product, to make it "strike proof" (if anybody went on strike production at another place could still go on).
What they didn't tell us: there was no loophole.
They used the fake deal to justify engineering cuts, and then after they lost all that support.......again with no loophole, they then justified the move of some of the product due to not having support.
It was a game from the start, and my boss knew it.
Problem there: if he knew, why didn't he let me transfer to another group (one doing well, tried to get me for a YEAR)?
He said no, and then after I got my 2 months until gone notice, then he tries to be my bud and says he can "try" to get me into that group (truth is at that point they had a freeze-so he couldn't).
So I just let him rattle, did my production support, made custom parts for another group (worked over for free to get that done- made schedule, which was done half way through my last day).
I did my job and just split.
Of course some other coworkers didn't take it so well, cried like kids when they found out they were going to get axed. Some were pretty bad about it.......and a couple are still there.
How HR kept them in their jobs, after all the drama and whining.......man if that doesn't speak volumes for the "system".
It's cost me a LOT of money, my job loss, but I still pee standing up.
I'd rather be broke than be a B.
OK, off to sign the new lease and start moving. Of course my washer at current place messed up last night...........it's always something. I'll get my junk moved out and then fix it.
My Jeep's hatch is stuck so I gotta work on that first. Too funny.
Nothing is ever smooth or easy.
I was a custom cabinet maker for the last 11 years and even though the boss and others got to me at times and I didn't always liked my job, I never wanted to lose it. I wanted to leave on my own terms to something better but it never materialized over the years due to the fact I was making good money and other job offers were always 65% of my pay at best.
The position my company had been in for the last several years was that we could no longer compete for the local jobs that filled in between the big jobs we did in Hawaii due to the fact we couldn't outbid other shops that paid $8 an hour and no benefits. We done work for Bill Gates, Microsoft, the new Trump Tower in Hawaii built by the Donald and many other high dollar custom jobs.
It seems everybody now is just going to the local Home Depot or Lowes and buying chinese cabinets off the shelf for the fact you can redo a kitchen for under $3000. I have chosen to not be bitter about losing my job or the struggle to find a new one because I will go crazy if I let myself dwell on the negative. I am just putting my faith in the lord and know that he will bring me a job in his time.
I have looked at this as an opportunity to do something I have always wanted to do which is to get into law enforcement. I am starting school in sept to get my ATA in criminal justice. Even in my situation of job loss and having a family to support, I still didn't even qualify for enough financial aid to even cover the cost of text books for the year and I know people who are making a lot more than us right now and are getting a full govt. ride to college and getting grants that pay a living wage while in school. :mad: Doesn't even have to worry about working while in school. Frustrating the way our govt. caters to "certain" people. I will leave it at that. You are exactly right, nothing is ever smooth or easy.