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Title: Sharpening Muzzy Phantoms??????Help!
Post by: GameGetter on June 25, 2010, 09:31:00 PM
It has been some time since I have been on here. Time fly's when you are working your tail off!
 I love the Muzzy Phantoms but the metal in them is so hard! How do you guys get them sharp enough to hunt with?? Thanks!
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Post by: Jake Fr on June 25, 2010, 09:42:00 PM
i use a paper wheel a freind gave me it works great and by far the sharpest thing i've ever seen
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Post by: M.P. on June 25, 2010, 09:46:00 PM
i use a montec sharpener.
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Post by: hunt it on June 25, 2010, 10:11:00 PM
Majority of carbide quick sharpeners work great on Phantoms. Redi edge from cabelas worked best.
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Post by: inthere10x on June 25, 2010, 10:12:00 PM
I use the KME sharpener, razor sharp in no time at all. Look under the "sponsor list" for the web site.
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Post by: mrpenguin on June 25, 2010, 10:39:00 PM
I use a basic $7 sharpener from Cabela's... 3-4 nice smooth strokes shaved hair before I went to my stand last season... great heads!
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Post by: tawmio on June 25, 2010, 10:44:00 PM
PAPER WHELLS. you can get them at grizzly.com for $33
They r called 8" Razor sharp system
they r too easy to use.
Tommy
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Post by: stickbowmaniac on June 25, 2010, 10:57:00 PM
Thanks for the website for the razor sharp system.I had 1 like it years ago.Worked awesome.
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Post by: 4 point on June 26, 2010, 02:47:00 AM
I use a steel to sharpen them, a couple times across and they will pop hair off your arm with lite pressure.
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Post by: kat on June 26, 2010, 09:13:00 AM
Muzzy Phantoms are made of Stainless Steel.  Stainless Steel is Softer than most steels.  This may be your problem.  I use them exclusively, and a good carbide sharpener does well followed by a fine honing stone.
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Post by: sswv on June 26, 2010, 10:07:00 AM
I use the Muzzy Broadhead sharpener and it works great on the Phantoms and my Steelforce heads also.
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Post by: waknstak IL on June 26, 2010, 03:50:00 PM
KME sharpener works great.
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Post by: the longbowkid on June 26, 2010, 06:10:00 PM
montec sharpener, but they are notoriosly hard to sharpen. good luck though
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Post by: Jake on June 26, 2010, 08:10:00 PM
If your having a hard time give us a call.  Even if you don't have a KME we'll try to help ya.
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Post by: DesertDude on June 27, 2010, 12:09:00 AM
Like always,  Outstanding service from KME
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Post by: GameGetter on June 27, 2010, 11:17:00 PM
Thanks everybody, I'll give it another shot with some of your help. Could be that they are stainless, none of my others are. If I still have trouble's I will take you up on the call Jake. I have never had problems like this before with shapening, (just ask anybody that has hunted with me. Allways seems the first day in camp I am "touching" up all there broadheads!)Good to hear they are a bit notoriosly though to sharpen. I was starting to think I was loosing my touch!
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Post by: Sharpster on June 28, 2010, 08:39:00 AM
Dan,

The steel in the Phantoms is very good. It's similar to the stainless used by other BHD manufacturers. The thing to keep in mind is those deeply vented blades flex very easily when pressure is applied from the side like when  we're sharpening them. Use a very light touch and just about any stone will get em tuned. Push too hard and you can grind the blades away and never get them sharp. Let us know how you do.

Ron
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Post by: Mint on June 28, 2010, 01:24:00 PM
I tried everything with no sucess until I found the KME at ETAR. Now within 5 minutes I got all 4 blades hair popping sharp. I really didn't think i could get a broadhead that sharp but with the KME and light even pressure there isn't a hair left on my forearms by the beginning of hunting season. LOL
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Post by: mark land on June 28, 2010, 03:20:00 PM
Muzzy Phantom have a steeper blade angle then standard blades and that can cause some trouble as you are trying to reshape the blade angle instead of sharpening up the blade edge.  We do use a hardened SS for the blades, same material we use for all our blades.
The angle is close to 30 degrees and yes our new sharpener works very well and has the correct angle for the blades.  But if you have another system, just use a sharpie to mark up the edge of the blades so you can see where you are removing material from and adjust your angle for that.  Good luck!
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Post by: Arwin on June 28, 2010, 06:30:00 PM
Once you get these things sharp, lookout!!!    :eek:      I had a pass through on almost every deer shot last season. The one that didn't was because the broadhead went through part of the shoulder on the opposite side and got stuck.

I used a standard kitchen knife sharpener going from the back forward. I found I have a sweet spot on my sharpener that touches the blades up in a few swipes.

I'm thinking about going back to them this fall. Like the 220 grain minus the bleeders(200 grains). They did quite the job on Large Marge.   ;)  
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Post by: 3arrows on June 28, 2010, 11:09:00 PM
What i do is remove both blades and sharpen them just like i would a knife blade with a lanisky sharpener.