I just would like to know Who shoots a Heavy Mass Weight Bow? I need to weigh My KingFisher Bow to get Her mass weight, But I'm finding out I shoot a little better with it then I did with any lighter mass weight bow I had.
I'm a metal guy for that very reason, lots easier to hold steady. The beauty of a bow to me is being able to see that arrow go right to its mark time after time.
Tall Tines 3 pc recurve is the heaviest mass weight bow I own by a long shot.....I like the added weight, and they shoot very well for me.
I shoot Wes Wallace recurves, and they have good mass weight, depending on wood choice. I don't like light bows, one reason I don't care for longbows.
Everyone with a Widow!
ya widow is the heaviest ive owned
My Jack Kempf Kwyk Styk wieghs a ton. The Cocobolo riser is super heavy. Almost as heavy as my BW PSAX.
Yes my BWs are the heaviest I own.There is room for any different mass weight,everything having its own applications.When I go elk hunting on the Rocky highs I love the featherweight of my Robertsons and now of the incredible Zipper SXT.When I hunt from a stand or boars the higher mass bow can be handy.Once you learn how to master a lightweight bow you can just shoot better a heavier one.
My PSA2 with the 7/5 quiver and 7 ash arrows weighed a ton.
My Silvertip with a limb bolt selway loaed with 2216's was pretty hefty.Would like to get a Widow PMA for this reason too.Can't shoot light bows as good as heavier weights.Like Diamond Paul that's some of the reason I don't care for LB's.
My Pittsley Predator recurve is quite heavy, especially with a bow quiver full of Beman MFX Classics. I had a BW MAB once and it was heavy as well. I don't shoot heavy mass weight bows any better than I shoot light weight bows. I've owned a 54" Shrew, a Beeler Hybrid, and a Bear Montana and I shot those bows just as well as I shot my heavier bows. :archer2: I know, it doesn't make any sense to me either! :dunno: :confused:
But I still like the feel and stability of the heavier mass weight bows though.
Border Black Douglas Swift in cocobolo.
definately! went from a shrew to a silvertip then lost my mind and went to a Centuar only to end up with a Border black douglas. The heavy mass definately helps my accuracy.
The bows that I shoot best are my Bear takedowns. They are pretty heavy.
I think that is one of the reasons why I shoot recurves better than longbows. I have a Blacktail and a couple of Schafers and they are the bows I shoot best. I think it really helps with follow through, less "jumpy" in your hand at release.
Dave
Can't say mine is heavy. It weighs exactly 1½ pound.
My Widow PSAIII is my heaviest bow. Even without the quiver it is very noticeable when I shoot as hand shock is much reduced in the widow. In fact, with a bowquiver (Great Northern) and 4 arrows this bow is too heavy for my tastes. However, mass weight isn't near the most important thing to me when it comes to deciding which my bows to shoot. My Blacktail elite VL (1-piece) is my lightest bow but it ahoots terrific. I have a Bear TD Supreme B and A riser takedowns (just received the A riser yesterday from the factory). These bows, while not custom jobs are beautiful, very well made, superbly finished, and shoot very well. They are moderate in mass weight. I tink the very narrow, low wrist grip has a lot to do with this bow's shootability.
I had Kevin at Rivers Edge build me a CLX in Bocote and Macassar Ebony. It seems to be quite heavy, at least heavier than the rest of my bows. Mass weight = stability IMHO.
Good shoot'in.
My Bob Lee is real heavy (3 to 3.5#) with the Selway full of arrows. I agree with the rest of the bunch, heavy mass = more stability. IMO
My 25" ILF target bow riser is around 5 pounds by it'self.
I ordered my PLX with a solid black glass riser to give it a little mass.
I just weighed My PSE KingFisher. I used My tiller tree & Bath scale ( This is just ballpark since it's not the kind of scale for this )and it shows 3.5#
This is just the bow ( Riser, limbs & string )No bow quiver on the bow. I used to Own an Original 54" Shrew that felt like it weighed-1#, Now Don't get me wrong I shot that bow great and I loved the feel of it.
I just wanted to know if the weight (MASS) really does help out as much as it does, Going by the replies I'm not going nuts (I am but that's another story), Because I feel my back muscles working more and it's helping My form.
This is the Bow I'm taking to Hunt Javie's & Hogs w/Curtis of 7th Age Next February (2011). I also have an Arrow Pat Brennan sent Me in 2009 ( Sourwood w/stone point 630grn ) That will be My main Arrow for the hunt but not my only one. I have Ash & Birch Arrows as well for the hunt.
My Hoyt Gold Medalist is the heaviest traditional bow I have ever had, and I shoot it better than any other traditional bow I've ever had. It's so stable, it almost feels "dead" in the hand, most other bows have some liveliness to them.
No heavy bows in my house. Bad enough hauling 1.5 lbs 8 to 10 miles chasing elk. Much less the add weight when hauling the quarters out.
My Rocky Mountain Recurve with Bolivia Rosewood is somewhat heavy but it draws real smooth, quiet, and no handshock. Give and takes.
My Bob Lee Durawood Riser is extemely heavy.
Same theory behind the bull-barrel fire arms..
Heavy mass = Less movement at the shot.
Yep I can not hold a Widow I'll stick with the light bows. Guess Im a whimp!! :deadhorse:
I like the mass weight also, the aluminum riser on my black swan weighs 2.5 lbs. It is a joy to shoot, very steady.
My 64" PMA is just a great shooting bow. A believer in longer and heavier bows
The first thing I noticed when I tried a Silvertip (Schafer) was it's "heft". As I choose the woods for my own I'm being careful to retain this weight -- why I'll likely go with their Dyamond woods instead of extotics. I don't notice that I shoot the heavier bows (I have PSAIII) over the lighter ones (Blacktail 1-piece and others) but I do like the solid feel during the shot.
I shoot a Black Widow Ironwood. I think I shoot a heavy bow better.
My Bob Lee take down has good weight to it!
It's physics that makes a heavy bow more accurate. The mass and inertia keep it still. I see a lot of bowyers trying to buid super light risers, it's counter productive if accuracy is your goal. Why do you think target archers add mass to there bows. It's why I like a takedown recurve, the tend to be heavier. The. Black widows use a lot of phenolic, that is one of the heavier materials.
Both of my Blacktail TD recurves are heavy since the riser on both of them is a combination of cocobolo and shedua.
A lot of phenolic makes a riser heavy. I prefer heavier weight bows, just for the reason that Red4arm mentioned above.
While having not weighed them, I'm sure that my Hummingbird Kingfisher recurve and longbow outweigh everything else that I have. That includes my Snakebit and my all macassar ebony Wallace Mentor.
They shoot pretty well for me.......and that is what matters most.
Winterhawk1960
I guess all things are relative. ANY trad bow is light, even at 10,000 feet, compared to an 8.5-9# 300 Model 70 or most wheelies. I like recurves because of their mass. One of these days, I'll have a take-down made: heavy, massive recurve riser with longbow limbs. It may not be too pretty... :D
I also shoot heavier bows better, I don't shoot some of my Pearsons that are lighter, as well as my Martin Hunter, Ordered a Wallace Mentor that's made of Bol. Rosewood and bocote with red elm limbs. Hope this ends up being fairly heavy? We'll see in December when it gets here.
Macassar ebbony does the trick. I built a couple of the Talons with it and the stuff is like lead. Beautiful too. (http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/Morristalon/morristallonplus.jpg)
I've shot Widows for years and they have a fair amount of mass, but I am switching to a Macassar Ebony risered Tall Tines and I expect it will have a lot more.
BW cocobolo,PSAX and yes the weight makes all the difference.
i too like a heavier bow. my bob lee take down with 19" riser with thunderhorn bowquiver full of 5340gr worth of arrows is dead in the hand!
Sixby that's an intriguing bow! Those limbs have some serious hook to them. Almost what I would call a multi-cam. That sure is a beautiful riser too! I'd love to shoot it.
Really pretty bow Sixby, I've been considering trying a recurve again for the added weight to see if it helps my shooting.
Thanks guys. I just started making this model late last year. The people that have bought them say that they are the best shooting recurve that they have ever shot. I am partial myself. It is a bow design that allows a foreward riser and still maintains a low brace and lots of speed. It is a true static and maintains perfect string angle due to the roll over of the hook , (cam) Very short working limb with fast return. this is the quietest recurve I have ever shot and customers say the same. I will be hunting with no silencers on the string. The 56 in onepiece has been pulled and shot at 32 inches and I reccomend it to 29.
I have had one major thing to overcome. I do build what is called a pretty bow. Somehow , every customer that I have had said that they never expected it to actually shoot better than they looked. But they really do. That is because God has been my instructor and inspiration, I have built them to be shooters first and then added the other. God Bless, Steve
what is the mass weight of that bow?
Sal, I can't honestly answer that, I never weighed it. It lives in Spring Texas though. If you get down that way look up Steve Morris. He is a great friend and the owner of it. God Bless,
I have built several of these bows with Maccassar and they all are what I would call heavy , even with the slim lines. Withoug exception the owners have commented about them being extremely accurate. God bless, Steve
I've got a PSAX with an Ironwood riser that really lets you know your holding it.
I usually grab one of my Big Jims for a walk in the hills.... They weight about what the Widow limbs weigh :)
As far as accurate, weight is not as big an issue as grip and bow length for me. I shoot my longer bows a tad better than my short bows? I think it has something to do with big fingers and my release...
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My new Bob Lee's have half micarta risers for that very reason. Mass weight!
My new BW PSAV weighs in at a tad over 3# without quiver or arrows.