What are some bowyers that currently make an extreme deflex/reflex 1-piece longbow? I'm talking about the kind of curve in the limbs that if you were to extend them a few more inches, it would want to transform into a recurve....
Don't know about transforming into a recurve, but BigJim's buffalo bow is a fairly extreme r/d longbow.
A&H, Dryad, Sarrels, Morrison,Holm-made, JK Traditions, Centaur, Beeler
They are recurves when they're like that! :) As much as they are "longbows" anyway! How about a Bob Lee "hybrid?" (Don't call them longbows around me)! :D
Curveman, ironic you mentioned that - I was picturing the Bob Lee's lines in my mind when I was composing my post. I had one of the Lee Stickbows for a while, but it just wasn't the bow for me - much too slow for my liking.
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Don't know about transforming into a recurve, but BigJim's buffalo bow is a fairly extreme r/d longbow.
I'd love to see a strung profile of BigJim's bows....
Most I have seen tapper into the tips over a longer section so they don't just look like a recurve with a hair less curl at the ends of the limbs, but the MOAB is probably the one I think of as having the most look of a recurve at the ends of the limbs. Yet it has more string to limb clearance than most hybrids and is very quiet.
Tom- Take a look at my web site. We have moved a copy of the slide show of my bows there as well.
thanks, bigjim
www.bigjimsbowcompany.com (http://www.bigjimsbowcompany.com)
Hi Tom.
Check out my Firehawk longbow.At the site listed below.This model has a lot of Reflex / Deflex. It is not listed on the site yet but I make the Firehawk Recurve as well.I am still learning how to post pictures here.But if you would like some strung and unstrung pictures of these models I would be glad to Email some.
Thank You.
Rodney.
Thanks, bigjim. I like the lines of your bow. You have lots of pictures but very few showing the strung profile.
I'll be giving you a call.
Tom take a look at Leon Stewart's LS Slammer. The 60 inch Lil Slamer posted on the site is pushing it about as far as it will go wo/ turning inside out. Fast and whisper quiet.
21st century had some
Leon Stewart's LS Slammer, I'll second that.
Lost Creek. IMO the best longbow out there for the money. Ken
The shrew clasic hunter is a lot like your describing
Tom, you going to ATAR?
I will have some of those with me.
Killdeer
Killy,
Likely I won't, as I'm supposed to have a HighPower rifle competition that same weekend. Gotta make up my mind soon, though. Jeff and Brooke will be there - camping spot #8.
Dwyer Endeavor also.
Moab thunderstick..........
BlackCreek also make one as you describe.
I dont know much still of what is considered "extreme" but here are some pics of my Treadway Black Swamp, unstrung it looks like a recurve doesn't she???
What you think?
(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/533/cimg1434z.th.jpg) (http://img534.imageshack.us/i/cimg1434z.jpg/)
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5265/cimg1429w.th.jpg) (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/cimg1429w.jpg/)
Check this post on Big Jims ThunderChild
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=086908
Check out Terrys post on the Lost Creek NAT
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=090087;p=2
Just came across this one, too: http://www.skyarchery.com./skyrebel.htm
Who came up with this "if the string doesn't touch the limb it's a longbow?!" If the limbs are "recurving" when strung then one could easily argue it's a recurve by definition of the limbs being, uh, "recurved!" Or call it a hybrid if you wish. But it's definitely not a longbow. Once again, I don't object to hybrids-there are some outstanding shooters out there falling under that description; I just object to hybrids being called longbows! Recurve risers, recurved limbs-it's a recurve, I mean HYBRID! Just my opinion. ;) :D
Do you have a suggestion for the person's question Curveman? I doubt he is concerned that you object to him calling it a longbow. :confused:
For me, Big Jim has the coolest looking extreme RD bow.
Does the Howard Hill Badger made by Craig Ekin count as Extreme R/D?
(http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Badger/HHBadger.jpg) (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Badger/HHBadger2.jpg)
Check out Stiker bows, they actually make a bow that changes from a recurve to a hybrid long bow by adjusting the brace height.
QuoteOriginally posted by pseman:
Do you have a suggestion for the person's question Curveman? I doubt he is concerned that you object to him calling it a longbow. :confused:
Exactly. I don't care what it's called. How about we call it a "reculongbow"? :D
QuoteOriginally posted by Raging Water:
Does the Howard Hill Badger made by Craig Ekin count as Extreme R/D?
(http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Badger/HHBadger.jpg) (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Badger/HHBadger2.jpg)
Love the looks of that bow. How come I've never seen a HH Badger before? Is it a new model?
The Badger is an unadvertised bow by Craig. It is 62" long and can be made in any # Draw wt. I am really considering getting a Carbon or "Black Badger" with a dished grip.
I am a Hill Fan so it is just plain cool! Supposedly, no hand shock and really fast.
I have a HH "Black Bear" Carbon Wesley Special T/D 66" 80# at 28", I got from a TG member. It is an awesome Howard Hill bow
QuoteOriginally posted by Tom Anderson:
QuoteOriginally posted by pseman:
Do you have a suggestion for the person's question Curveman? I doubt he is concerned that you object to him calling it a longbow. :confused:
Exactly. I don't care what it's called. How about we call it a "reculongbow"? :D [/b]
I gave my suggestion boys on page one. There have been several nice ones since. I did interject a little editorial after that but what the heck, this is an opinion forum! :bigsmyl:
Curveman,
I like the way you think.
Thanks IA,
I do apologize though if I picked the wrong spot to editorialize. I meant no offense to anyone. I thought my "opening" for my opinion was inherent in the question by the author of the post: "I'm talking about the kind of curve in the limbs that if you were to extend them a few more inches, it would want to transform into a recurve...." It does want to! It does want to! It wants you to accept its true nature! :biglaugh:
Steve
Might take a look at the Fox Archery Royal Crown also. Great design and a great shooting bow.
robertson primal styk is fairly reflexedand a miami valley longbow is even more so
I'd call the Badger an extreme deflex/half reflex. :) They are really cool though!
What about a Cari-bow Peregrine? Very fast hybrid with no handshock, very smooth draw and superb craftmanship!
Just about everybody is on the bandwagon by now-trend started 5 years ago-or more-it is a great design improvement.
Im with Curveman, they're Hybrids, but you all know this, if ya want a "L/B" there are plenty of those made as well {smile goes here} ...
QuoteOriginally posted by Bjorn:
Just about everybody is on the bandwagon by now-trend started 5 years ago-or more-it is a great design improvement.
Sad but true! :confused: Gimmee the classics, (with perhaps a small allowance of R/D just to keep my tooth fillins')-any day! Remember, "design improvements" led to the compound! :scared: :biglaugh: Heck, I might buy a Howard Hill tonight! :D
You have to include Arnold Smit of V Archery in the High Performance Reflex Deflex world.
His bows are a work of art.
(http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/matts%20v%20archery/R-Dbowcombi.jpg) (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/matts%20v%20archery/resultscombi.jpg) (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/matts%20v%20archery/Risercombi1.jpg)
You could always go the R/D route and still have a "D" shape too........ :cool:
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g128/ad2877/bows/Darksidebowunstrung.jpg)
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wow matt !!! THATS SWEET .... i would call that a sweet recurv with longbow limbs .... but a work of art none the less . id shoot it proudly...
QuoteOriginally posted by Raging Water:
Does the Howard Hill Badger made by Craig Ekin count as Extreme R/D?
(http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Badger/HHBadger.jpg) (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Badger/HHBadger2.jpg)
I have one like this 60" long but picture your bow having the riser reflexed in a couple of inches also and you got it. The maker escapes my mind right now(I'm at work) but I have never seen another bow like it. It looks like an Asian horse bow but with convetional string ends on the tips instead of sighs on it. Plus it's a standard laminated bow with glass and wood not horn or wood. It shoots sweet and is fast as my recurves. It pulls about 72 to 73 pounds at my 30" draw legnth.
Oh also my limbs are wider like a flat bow.
Catus Cals pretty narrow limb tips, lots of D&R to the profile on this one and it will smoke an arrow.
Not the best photo.
(http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac56/dougd3353/IMG_0087.jpg)
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Dave Beeler's bows are extreme R/D.
The Zach Ferguson ZBows Z-58 model is an extreme r/d longbow model. It's based on the original Bryron Ferguson Patriot longbow which is about the first short riser, long limbs, extreme r/d longbow I can remember being on the market. It's featured in an old 1991 Ferguson Adventure Archery, Inc. brochure, dated 1991, that I still have in my archery brochure collection (I'm an archery hoarder, but I'm not buried alive yet). Clint
Ok got the name of my bow. It is a Woodland Traditional Archery Woodland Stalker(don't think they're made anymore). Very radical little bow. I once saw a recurve version of this bow that someone had laminated themselves and it really looked radical. Same deep reflexed riser but with static recurved tips on it. Like I said it looks like a Asian horse bow but with straight tips and regular tip ends.
QuoteOriginally posted by Tom Anderson:
QuoteOriginally posted by pseman:
Do you have a suggestion for the person's question Curveman? I doubt he is concerned that you object to him calling it a longbow. :confused:
Exactly. I don't care what it's called. How about we call it a "reculongbow"? :D [/b]
I would prefer "A LONGURVE! :) :) :)
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The Shrew for sure ...If your into that sort of thing.
Go for Cari bow !
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/DSC02748-1.jpg)
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My new BW PLX is pretty extreme but not near as extreme as the Woodland Stalker I have. The Woodland Stalker's limbs still curve out after being strung but the string still doesn't touch the tips like a recurve. Looks like a true hybrid longbow/recurve.
Who makes the Woodland Stalker?
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Who makes the Woodland Stalker?
Woodland Traditional Archery use to, but I believe they stop making them. I got mine from a chap on Fle****. When I can I need to post some pics of my bows.
Raging Water,
Good looking bows you have there. If they are like some of the other bows you have then I would probably have to use both hands and feet to pull them though!
Dave
Try to find a Bill Matlock Predator X II or III. Awesome bows if you like the radical r/d bows.RC