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Title: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: StanM on June 08, 2010, 09:37:00 AM
Here's a link to a YouTube video that I made to show how I sharpen our new single bevel 3-blade broadhead.  I had a heck of a time trying to get a good quality video to download, but I think this is pretty good as far as clarity.  I have another that shows how to use a jig to sharpen these with a stone.  Fire away with any questions.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBDOeE5HlL8

Here is the jig and how to make one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoJVJfQRzQU

And here it is in use.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fbrVQOCaoI
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: kbetts on June 08, 2010, 04:26:00 PM
I don't see the b/h on your website.
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: steadman on June 08, 2010, 04:28:00 PM
When are they gonna be here! LOL!!
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: StanM on June 08, 2010, 05:13:00 PM
Hi Kyle, I'll have them up for sale by the 15th. Wanted to post the video first so people could make an informed decision before buying.

Ryan, soon my man, soon.  School is crazy for another week then I will have more time for getting these things sharpened and packaged.
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: StanM on June 08, 2010, 05:14:00 PM
Hi Kyle, I'll have them up for sale by the 15th. Wanted to post the video first so people could make an informed decision before buying.

Ryan, soon my man, soon.  School is crazy for another week then I will have more time for getting these things sharpened and packaged.
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: steadman on June 08, 2010, 05:45:00 PM
Just kiddin ya buddy! Take care up there. I will look at the video to get a jump start. Love the video. They look real good Stan!
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: kbetts on June 08, 2010, 06:13:00 PM
What are the weights being offered?  I think I would like to try them on a piggy in Sept.
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: snag on June 08, 2010, 06:42:00 PM
How can you tell a broadhead manufacturer? But the bald spots on his arm! haha  
Great looking heads Stan. Looks like they'd leave a real nice blood trail.
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: StanM on June 08, 2010, 08:30:00 PM
Hi Kyle, for now we've got a 150 grain glue-on head and a 100 grain screw-in head.

Here's a link to how to build the jig.  Bear with me guys, video is not my forte.  I'll get a video showing how to use the jig and how they shoot later tonight after league.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoJVJfQRzQU
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: Chester Thompson on June 08, 2010, 08:32:00 PM
Wow I am sure going to like the ones that I win.
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: kbetts on June 08, 2010, 11:05:00 PM
A 150 on a 100 adapter sounds just about right for the FMJ's.  I'm looking for a bh to shoot on my first wood arrows I'm building also.  When they're ready, I'd like to try them next to a 160 Grizzly.  Will they be rt's, lefts, or can you order both?
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: StanM on June 09, 2010, 12:59:00 AM
Kyle, the first ones we had done were in rights.

New video added in the first post showing the jig in use.
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: snag on June 09, 2010, 12:38:00 PM
Nice job on the jig Stan! I like it.
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: steadman on June 09, 2010, 01:03:00 PM
Looks great Stan. Can't wait to try it!
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: StanM on June 10, 2010, 12:34:00 PM
Got your heads and a jig in the mail today, Ryan.  Let me know when they arrive  :D
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: Arwin on June 10, 2010, 06:28:00 PM
Stan,
Those look great!!! Have you had a chance to test what kind of channel they make? Very curious!!!
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: StanM on June 10, 2010, 09:05:00 PM
Hey Arwin, thanks. I have a video that I'll try to put up tonight that shows how the heads spin as they penetrate.
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: Arwin on June 10, 2010, 09:10:00 PM
Awesome!  I'll keep a heads up.   :thumbsup:

BTW the Talons are SWEEEET!!  :cool:
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: StanM on June 11, 2010, 01:10:00 AM
Not the best video, but I think it'll show how the arrows spin when I pull them out of the target.  You really have to twist to get them out, they don't come out with a straight pull.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlHCNqhL8cE
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: J-dog on June 11, 2010, 07:12:00 AM
That is what I was interested in, them spiraling as they pass through. That my friend will be devastating.

J
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: Bill Carlsen on June 11, 2010, 04:17:00 PM
Your sharpening jig is ingeniously simple....now why didn't I think of that? I have some mahoganey  (sp?) downstairs that I now know what I am going to with. It has also occurred to me that you could use threaded rods  and drill several "post holes" to change the angle without having to adjust the washer assembly. Thanks for a neet thread.
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: Guru on June 11, 2010, 08:52:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by J-dog:
That is what I was interested in, them spiraling as they pass through. That my friend will be devastating. J
Why will that be devastating?  On a BS or 1/4 away critter how much do you think they'll actually rotate as they penetrate?


Stan, The head looks good bud. But I'm not sure I see the advantage over a double bevel 3 blade.

Never had any urge to try a single bevel 2 blade, but since these are 3 blades, they have me kinda intrigued....
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: J-dog on June 11, 2010, 09:05:00 PM
Sorry for posting.

J
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: StanM on June 11, 2010, 09:19:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Guru:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by J-dog:
That is what I was interested in, them spiraling as they pass through. That my friend will be devastating. J
Why will that be devastating?  On a BS or 1/4 away critter how much do you think they'll actually rotate as they penetrate?


Stan, The head looks good bud. But I'm not sure I see the advantage over a double bevel 3 blade.

Never had any urge to try a single bevel 2 blade, but since these are 3 blades, they have me kinda intrigued.... [/b]
Hi Curt, in my broadhead target I see the arrow rotating about 180 degrees in 12 inches or so of penatration.  Not sure how that will affect wound channels, planning on finding out on hogs in July  :D

The main reason that I wanted to do a single bevel three blade is that it is sharper.  When I sharpened three blades with a double bevel I always did them two blades at a time.  That produces a 60 degree angle on each blade.  By going with a single bevel we are able to get the blade angle down to 34 degrees, 26 degrees sharper.

Now, I understand that is only the angle that is sharper, and much depends on a persons ability to hone an edge.  I have Woodsmans and Snuffers that I have gotten very sharp at 60 degrees and think they are both great heads.  However, I have personally never gotten a 3-blade as sharp as I can make one of these Phoenix heads.

Having said that, I'm new to this ballgame and although I've done some research and some testing, I'm very eager to learn what others experiences are.
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: steadman on June 11, 2010, 10:12:00 PM
I will let you know when I get them Stan! Thanks!
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: StanM on June 12, 2010, 02:09:00 PM
Thanks Bill, I hope you post pics of your jig when you're finished. I'd like to see it.  Here's another little video that shows a modification that you can do to make it work with two blades.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo9GeAcOjN8
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: Guru on June 12, 2010, 03:52:00 PM
J-dog, Why are you "sorry for posting"?  I was just responding to your statement with a legitimate question.

Thanx for the reply Stan....

I've watched your video's and that's awful impressive how easy it was for you to get the head shaving with just a file.

Like I said, I'm intrigued...

Good luck on the hogs, I'm sure looking forward to the field reports as these heads get more and more use.

Red feather Archery..... :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: Bowspirit on June 12, 2010, 05:04:00 PM
I have to admit, I was pretty skeptical of the pro's to a single bevel 3-blade. However, your videos speak volumes Stan. I am thoroughly impressed. Can't wait to see the results of your hog hunt...
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: pdk25 on June 13, 2010, 01:26:00 AM
ttt
Title: Re: Sharpening 3-blade single bevel (Jig videos in 1st post)
Post by: steadman on June 15, 2010, 10:10:00 PM
I got my new phoenix heads the other day. What a well made broadhead. I can get a real good edge on them, and with a little more practice, I think I will be able to get a scary sharp edge. Great broadhead Stan! Can't wait to put it through a critter.