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Title: How to keep the same weight tips
Post by: gudspelr on June 07, 2010, 07:53:00 PM
I'm having some trouble getting all my tips to be the same weight up front.  140 grn field tips, 125 grn judo's (couldn't find heavier where I was at), and haven't gotten broadheads yet.  That being said, I know I need to keep the same weight best as I can so the spine, etc all stays the same.

So, how do I do it?  I saw someone once mention weight washers?  I have some 5575's and some fatter aluminums.  Do they come in the different outside diameters?  Don't suppose I'd be lucky enough to find proper diameter ones at the hardware store for nice and cheap...?

What about you guys shooting really heavy broadheads (200+ grn)?  Haven't seen field tips anywhere near that.  Am I not looking in the right places?

Oh, and this is all in reference to screw-in tips.  Thanks for the help.


Jeremy
Title: Re: How to keep the same weight tips
Post by: stevemfwills on June 07, 2010, 07:57:00 PM
try 3 rivers
Title: Re: How to keep the same weight tips
Post by: Kenneth on June 07, 2010, 07:58:00 PM
3Rivers and KustomKing both carry 200+ gr. field tips as well as some others.  I use adapters with glue-on judos' to get them the same weight as my b-heads and field points but I'm shooting 175gr. heads right now so it's a little easier to get the correct weight by adding the 42gr. adapter to the head.
Title: Re: How to keep the same weight tips
Post by: JimB on June 07, 2010, 11:55:00 PM
Field points go up to 315 grs.Braveheart,3 Rivers,Kustom King,Alaska Bowhunting.
Title: Re: How to keep the same weight tips
Post by: gudspelr on June 08, 2010, 12:48:00 AM
Thanks for the info, guys-found a good variety of possibilities.  I must admit, some are a bit confusing as to their proper use, but there are enough others that seem dummy proof for me  :) .


Jeremy
Title: Re: How to keep the same weight tips
Post by: Apex Predator on June 08, 2010, 05:58:00 AM
They could vary 15-20 grains in weight, and 99% of us wouldn't be able to tell.
Title: Re: How to keep the same weight tips
Post by: Smallwood on June 08, 2010, 11:37:00 AM
Instead of the judos, try hex heads or hammers in the same weight as your field points.
Title: Re: How to keep the same weight tips
Post by: Bobby Urban on June 08, 2010, 11:52:00 AM
I will probably take a little heat for this but I think grain weight is a bit overated when within 100 grains or so.  A hunting weight bow shooting hunting weight arrows within hunting distances(20yards and in) I find is way more accurate than my ability and I am much better served trying to perfect my release than worrying about a few grains out front.  If I am shooting well as far a mechanics are concerned meaning my anchor and release are consistant I could shoot 10 different arrow and tip combinations and get good(10") groups at 20 yards.  If I am shooting poorly I could be set up with Olympic class arrows and not get 2 of the 10 in the plate.  

Work on your form and the results will follow.  

JMO - Bob Urban
Title: Re: How to keep the same weight tips
Post by: 8pnt on June 08, 2010, 12:07:00 PM
I have melted lead fishing weights into the tip of points to get some weight.
Title: Re: How to keep the same weight tips
Post by: tkytrac on June 08, 2010, 07:28:00 PM
I tend to agree, that my talent isn't as good as the equipment.  So a few grains doesn't make that much difference to me.  Having said that if you are really interested in matching things up, wait til you go to one of the larger summer shoots where there is a good vender turn out and get what you need all at once.  Cost you a bundle but you'll be matched.  Can't hurt.
Title: Re: How to keep the same weight tips
Post by: Curveman on June 08, 2010, 07:35:00 PM
I'm with Bobby Urban on this. I think that some of this obsession with the tweaking is a holdover from some folks compound days where everything HAD to be just so. A lot of Indians killed a lot of animals with grain weights that didn't match.  :)
Title: Re: How to keep the same weight tips
Post by: Stiks-n-Strings on June 08, 2010, 07:49:00 PM
I shoot 190gr up front with field tips and broadheads. my stumping judos are put on with 57gr adapters for wood arrows which gives me 182gr on them I also shoot some stumping arrows that vary as much as 50gr more or less.

I agree with the guys that say focus on form and mechanics of the shot. Don't get me wrong you need to have a good setup but 50 grains give or take is not gonna make that much difference.
Title: Re: How to keep the same weight tips
Post by: cloudbaseracer on June 10, 2010, 01:20:00 PM
Goldtip has nice weights that screw into the insert from the rear.  I am using these as I have the same issue with Judo points being 125 and wanting to shoot a heavier head.  Check out the GoldTip website for more info.
Title: Re: How to keep the same weight tips
Post by: Mint on June 10, 2010, 02:15:00 PM
I shoot 200gs up front on my 55/75 gold tips with 50gr brass inserts. This was the only combination that flew perfectly, if I went lighter or heavier the flight was off and arrows were kicking. When shooting carbons I've noticed that the point weight cannot deviate much from the ideal weight otherwise poor arrow.
Title: Re: How to keep the same weight tips
Post by: James Wrenn on June 10, 2010, 02:19:00 PM
15gns is nothing to worry about if your bow is tuned to the middle of the spine range it will shoot.While it might make a difference shooting 60 arrows on a 300 round it should effect nothing for our typical shooting.I shoot 125gn points for 3d and use 175gn broadheads for hunting without having to change a thing.Even 50gns don't matter for 30 and under hunting shots.jmo
Title: Re: How to keep the same weight tips
Post by: Running Buck on June 10, 2010, 02:38:00 PM
I buy glue on Judo's and steel adapters. The nose of the adapter is hollow, if you need a little more weight just add a couple of drops of solder till you come up with the weight you want. You can get points and adapters from 3rivers.