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Title: simmons trophies
Post by: the longbowkid on June 06, 2010, 07:33:00 PM
lets see your trophies bagged with simmons sharks, Ive got a few on the way for this fall...
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Chris Surtees on June 06, 2010, 09:33:00 PM
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Entrance

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Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Chris Surtees on June 06, 2010, 09:36:00 PM
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Exit in vee of the leg
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Chris Surtees on June 06, 2010, 09:40:00 PM
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I think this is one as well.
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Gary Logsdon on June 06, 2010, 11:37:00 PM
The big bear I'm kneeling beside in my little avatar photo (3/4 mount) was taken with a 190 grain Interceptor.  Jerry Simmons is an old friend and has showed me some unbelievable photos of massive bloodtrails and huge critters taken with his original designs!  Did I mention those gigantic wound channels?? Wow.
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: RC on June 07, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
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Just a few.RC
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Stykbow62 on June 07, 2010, 01:30:00 AM
I've shot 1 buck and a yearling doe with the Simmons 160 gr.
I used it as a 2 blade on the buck and used the bleeder blade on the doe.  Which way do y'all get the best results ?  They fly the best for me as a 2 blade.
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Chester Thompson on June 07, 2010, 10:10:00 AM
I've got some 150 grain that I would love to send through a hog if I can ever find a place.
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: LCH on June 07, 2010, 10:15:00 AM
I have killed 13 deer with Simmons heads and a longbow I killed around 150 with a compound. It is the best head I have used. LCH
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: LimbLover on June 07, 2010, 11:34:00 AM
I just got a pack of 125g screw-in Landsharks in a trade and I am seriously thinking about using them this year. Ordering some 50g brass inserts to add some weight.

Do you guys prefer bleeder or no bleeder?
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Stykbow62 on June 07, 2010, 06:56:00 PM
ttt
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Greyfox54 on June 08, 2010, 10:52:00 PM
I have killed a lot of critters with my interceptors , just not very good at posting pics , but the buck in my avatar was dropped in his tracks in Georgia. I have several Africa pics on 3 rivers trophy pages but don't know how to move them over here . Great heads .
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: lt-m-grow on June 08, 2010, 11:13:00 PM
Fred, Do you use bleeders on the interceptors?
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Stykbow62 on June 08, 2010, 11:15:00 PM
Are you guys using the bleeder blades or not ???
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Skipmaster1 on June 08, 2010, 11:33:00 PM
My first Trad deer, 3days into hunting with trad gear. !25 geain Razor shark from a 55# super Kodiak at 17yds

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/skipmaster1/IMG_0334.jpg)

125 grain Razor shark from a 49# shrew pass through at 18yds  

(http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g167/skipmaster1/hog.jpg)
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: LCH on June 09, 2010, 08:17:00 AM
I don't use the bleeders. When I tried them I shot low. The holes I get are as big as the ones in the top photos or bigger. The more the angle of entrance or exit the bigger the hole. I have had holes over 6" with the landsharks. When the hole is that big the blood trails are continuous and a foot wide.LCH
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: LimbLover on June 09, 2010, 09:28:00 AM
How do you guys prefer to sharpen them? Jewel sticks as recommended? Accusharps?
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Tim Fishell on June 09, 2010, 10:00:00 AM
I use the wheelie sharpener on mine.  Makes pretty quick work of getting them sharp.
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Gary Logsdon on June 09, 2010, 10:33:00 AM
I'll try to post a few photos of some critters taken with 190 grain Interceptors.  One is of my buddy Jerry Simmons himself kneeling with me and a "wet" bear I took one fall.  Another photo shows Byron Ferguson and myself before he, Jerry, Fred Pape, and I began dragging the bruiser out of the bush. The final bear photo is of a pretty decent bear I took with a 190 gr..  The big bear in my avatar was also taken with a 190 gr. 2 blade Interceptor.  I'm including a photo of a blood trail produced by a 2 blader and Douglas Fir shaft.  If you look on the left side of the picture you can see my broken arrow.  All-in-all, I have taken around 50 or so deer, bear, hogs, antelope, and eastern turkeys using 190 gr. Simmons Interceptors.  They're TOUGH; I took 7 deer using the same head.

(NOTE: Hit F5 on your keyboard to refresh the page if the photos fail to load.)

(http://logsdonstudios.com/bear1.jpg)

(http://logsdonstudios.com/bear2.jpg)

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Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: lt-m-grow on June 09, 2010, 11:48:00 AM
Thanks for the input on the bleeders.

Are there other good methods of sharpening these besides the wheelie thingy?
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: TommyBoy on June 09, 2010, 12:03:00 PM
It-m-grow,

I've always just used a butchers steel. Get's them shaving sharp in no time.
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Gary Logsdon on June 09, 2010, 12:26:00 PM
The Steelmaster sharpener is the most effective way I'm aware of to sharpen those concave edges.  Jerry brought a prototype of it into bear camp back in the early 90s which he gave me to try out.  Worked pretty darn well too.  He made at least two modifications after that and now it's as good as it gest for sharpener big curve edges.  The Steemaster uses a "half-round" file", if necessary, for establishing the right bevel, produceing a burr, etc., and round ceramic rods for the final edge.  I only use the file for heads I've shot into the ground or that have nicked bone.  The rods suffice to sharpen heads out-of-the-package.  I can have a new head peeling hair in a matter of scends using rods only.
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Stykbow62 on June 09, 2010, 12:43:00 PM
LCH, thanks for the reply. I'll guess I'll quit worrying about trying to shoot the bleeders and just enjoy shooting them as a 2 blade.
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Gary Logsdon on June 09, 2010, 01:04:00 PM
I use the bleeders on the screw-in Interceptors for deer and black bear (2 blade for elk) and see no difference in their point of impact.  Perhaps it's just me but I can't "shoot the difference".  I have, however, taken several animals using the 2 blade glues-ons and wooden shafts.
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: James Wrenn on June 09, 2010, 01:10:00 PM
I don't use the bleeders any more.A treeshark cuts a whopper of a hole without needing the bleeders.I also prefer the glue-on heads over the screw-ins.They are a much stronger built head since the blades are supported at the back.I sharpen mine with paper wheels on my grinder.The setup Simmons sells works great but my grinder is a lot quicker. :)
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: lt-m-grow on June 09, 2010, 01:52:00 PM
Thank you all.  I have admired these heads (well the holes they produce) for sometime and now that they are readily available again, I am thinking of giving them a try.

So Gary and others that have shot them for years...double or single bevel?
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Greyfox54 on June 09, 2010, 03:34:00 PM
Dave I don't use the bleeders either . Most of my arrows are wood anyway . I have had excellant results with them . You won't be disapointed . Fred
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: LCH on June 09, 2010, 03:49:00 PM
I use the Steel master sharpener. You can take it with you on trips. If you use the glue on they work better with steel inserts those aluminums break.LCH
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Gary Logsdon on June 09, 2010, 05:18:00 PM
I use double bevels, but keep in mind that I probably have 100 or more laying around here that Jerry gave me over the years and none of the newer ones. That's a lot of surplus 190 gr. Interceptors considering how well they hold up. FYI, when I use the insert blades on deer, it's to decrease the chance that the main wound channel (wide slit) doesn't align itself with the "grain" of the outermost muscle tissue on either side of the animal, which is the reason that Fred Bear use to say that you "shouldn't shoot a two blade head at a big game animal."  Bear's little break-a-way bleeders helped cut an X hole that helped keep the entrance and exit holes more "open" all the way into the body cavity, the idea being that it would spill more blood on the ground thus producing a better tracking situation.  A hole is better than a pinched off slit, etc, etc.. I've used 2 and 4 bladers and finding animals isn't a problem when the arrow's in the right place, BUT . . .? Food for thought.  Both types have done fine for my purposes, but the 4 blades do create a different wound channel dynamic, one that might serve the hunter better on marginal hits.
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: the longbowkid on June 09, 2010, 05:24:00 PM
thanks for all the pics guys, I'll see what I can do for some of my own this fall.  :archer:
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Big'n on June 10, 2010, 11:21:00 AM
Hey guys thanks for your interest in the heads. It's a pleasure to be able to offer such a great head again. The Lord has blessed me.
If ya'll want to see some pretty cool wound channels...check out the gallery on my site simmonssharks.com. I'm constantly adding pics. As ya'll keep sending them to me.
I just recently took a bear with an experimental head that I've been working on. Nothing really new just Tigershark screw-in (175gr.). It's a shortened version of the Interceptor. I like it pretty well. Should be out this fall. Thanks, Dave
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Interseptor on June 10, 2010, 02:00:00 PM
Gary,
When using the Simmon Steel Master, which slot should you use with the rods to get the best results?

Dave,
Keep us posted on the 175 screw-in Tigersharks.  I've got a Treadway longbow that is just screaming to those heads!
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Interseptor on June 10, 2010, 02:02:00 PM
A few shark attacks.
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Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: lt-m-grow on June 10, 2010, 02:35:00 PM
Big'n,  I am trying to narrow down my options and you go an add another...what's up with that?  :-)

I had it down to the 190 interceptor without bleeders.   Then I am thinking that the single bevel would be easier to sharpen...

Soo let me turn the tide on you...

Which shark do you pick off the shelf to go hunting when nobody is looking and why?

And if you answer starts with "Well it depends..." I am gonna scream.  :-)
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Steve Leffler on June 10, 2010, 05:50:00 PM
I sot a turkey this spring with a brand new treeshark.  It worked awesome.  I hit the bird broadside in the spine.  It completely severed the spine and left a huge wound.  0 yard recovery.  The 2 inch cut was a big asset.  I can't wait to try them in the fall.  I am colorblind and need all the blood on the ground I can get.
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Gary Logsdon on June 11, 2010, 12:58:00 AM
Dave, on mine I use the inside most slot/guides for placement of the ceramic rods.  I'm using an older model that Jerry gave me and assume that the newer ones have the same angles marked.
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: LCH on June 11, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
Dave after I put the burr on the edge with the file I put the rods in the inside hole till burr is gone. Then put it in the outside holes for several strokes.
Note if the rods get real grey looking wash them with dishwashing soap.LCH
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Big'n on June 11, 2010, 11:02:00 PM
Dave my alltime favorite is the 165gr.Landshark. It's the reason that I bought the company. All of the heads are tough but this one just has it all. Some of the holes I've seen it put in animals are off the hook. The interceptor would be my next favorite. Here's the rub though. When I bought the company I began to notice that I was selling a large amount of glueon Tigersharks to compound guys. Thye were buying them up and putting those junk aluminum adapters in them. So I started asking questions and they all said the same thing....."The Tigershark out penetrates all the others". I welded afew Tigershark blades up with steel mandrels and started shooting them.
Wow the best of both worlds. Penetrates like the Interceptor and is as tough as the Landshark.
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: LCH on June 12, 2010, 08:51:00 AM
Big'n you are right. When the Landshark shortage hit (before you so graciously purchased the company) I was scrounging for heads and made a trade for some Tiger sharks. I shot a doe with one and got a pass through. Previosly with the landsharks they would just stick out the other side. The tigershark stuck in the ground 6". Keep making a great product.LCH
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Nakohe on June 12, 2010, 12:06:00 PM
Javilinas with Tree Shark. I love these heads.


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Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Zradix on April 20, 2011, 04:07:00 PM
ttt
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: JJB2 on April 20, 2011, 09:08:00 PM
How do they fly compared to other two blades and to a three blade broadhead like the vpa or woodsman?
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: copperhead95 on April 20, 2011, 09:11:00 PM
awesome! im thinkin of ordering some tigersharks.
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Trumpkin the Dwarf on April 20, 2011, 09:53:00 PM
Did you say they come in single bevel?
I may have found my broad head for this year...
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: Flingblade on April 20, 2011, 10:24:00 PM
I'm ordering 165 grain landsharks tomorrow!!  Turkey season opens May 2nd for me!  Can't wait!
Title: Re: simmons trophies
Post by: ti-guy on April 21, 2011, 06:22:00 AM
Seems efficient indeed!!!