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Title: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Jack Whitmire Jr on May 31, 2010, 07:31:00 PM
About 2 years ago I got tired of replacing targets and picking all the litter up they created .

So I set out to build a target that lasts forever to shoot in the yard with. It's permanent and will last the rest of my life . I have accomplished it IMO.


Looking from 20 yards:
 (http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo359/luckyjack123/Target002.jpg)

Up close :
 (http://i391.photobucket.com/albums/oo359/luckyjack123/Target004.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Butch Speer on May 31, 2010, 07:34:00 PM
Jack,
Looks good to me.
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Kevin Dill on May 31, 2010, 07:35:00 PM
I had one of those targets once. The material just never wears out...
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Jack Whitmire Jr on May 31, 2010, 07:44:00 PM
Yeah Kevin it has lasted about a year of shooting almost every day.

Jack
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Post by: maineac on May 31, 2010, 07:55:00 PM
Great idea.
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Post by: reddogge on May 31, 2010, 07:56:00 PM
Best broadhead target there is.
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Jack Whitmire Jr on May 31, 2010, 08:15:00 PM
Blunts, field tips , broadheads, judos anything you want to shoot is OK and TRULY 2 finger retrieval , not like the other commerical made targets.

Jack
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Friend on May 31, 2010, 08:43:00 PM
Hope there are not going to be any pics of you shooting in a bathing suit.
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: aussieman8 on May 31, 2010, 08:54:00 PM
I got one just like it!
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Kurt Miller on May 31, 2010, 08:54:00 PM
I was actually pondering this very idea today.  I shot at one a few times at an archery club I used to live near.  Works great, but...  
How much wear to arrows does it cause? I guess type of dirt/sand will make a difference.  I shoot carbon mostly--any issues with doing more than cosmetic wear and tear?
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: ronp on May 31, 2010, 09:13:00 PM
I really like that!  I have a pile of top soil behind my cheap old 3d target and it stops all of my errant shots.  I should just make up something similar.  Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: BCWV on May 31, 2010, 09:18:00 PM
Thanks for posting Jack, I know what I'll be doing next week end.
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Post by: Hot Hap on May 31, 2010, 09:21:00 PM
Will it draw cats?
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Post by: billy shipp on May 31, 2010, 09:28:00 PM
You got it Jack.....a pile of sand is all I've used for 25 years....good for field points as well as broadheads.
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Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on May 31, 2010, 09:51:00 PM
Careful You might wake to find someone has built a castle.  Then you will have to take it by Storm.
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Jack Whitmire Jr on May 31, 2010, 09:54:00 PM
Glynn no cats allowed around here  :)

Oh Scott me in a bathing suit = Ugly

Billy sand is awsome   :bigsmyl:  

Jack
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Over&Under on May 31, 2010, 11:29:00 PM
Do you think that there are any ill effects on arrows, continually being shot into sand, and wearing out the finish or even the carbon (assuming you shoot carbon) on your arrows, especially the front end which is the part you want to be the strongest?

Not nocking your target, as I have shot many an arrow into those targets and they are all you say they are, GREAT!...Just curious.

Thanks
Jake
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Jack Whitmire Jr on June 01, 2010, 05:32:00 AM
Yes it is hard on the finish, I have been shooting carbon arrows into it for over a year . Let's ask Billy Shipp he says that he has been shooting a sand pile for 25 years . What ya say Billy ?

Jack
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Whip on June 01, 2010, 06:57:00 AM
I've had one for twenty years myself.  It does wear the finish off of wood arrows.  It has been quite a few years since I shot aluminum, but I don't remember any issues with them at all.  I've been shooting carbons for the last 3 or 4 years and have had no wear issues with them whatsoever.
Best broadhead target by far  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Possum Head on June 01, 2010, 07:11:00 AM
Good post Jack, two finger arrow removal without the price.Hey,if ole HOT HAP'S concern becomes reality there's always the rubber blunt option!
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: ChetterB on June 01, 2010, 07:27:00 AM
Whip Fellow Wisconsinite what do you do in the winter? I assume this is not a functional winter target for us correct?
Looks to be a good 3 season target thanks for sharing.Jerry
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: fnshtr on June 01, 2010, 09:31:00 AM
I've been thinking of the same thing for shooting my broadheads. I remember Fred Bear using deer silhouett targets made from cardboard and staked in front of a sand trap. Thought I would do the same.

Thanks for sharing... Jack!
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: stevemfwills on June 01, 2010, 09:36:00 AM
how much sand did you use and what are the diminsions
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Post by: GingivitisKahn on June 01, 2010, 09:47:00 AM
Why wouldn't that work in the winter?  When it's covered by snow, put some tennis balls or something on top of the snow (on top of the target butt) and shoot at them.

Should work just fine.
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Dusty Nethery on June 01, 2010, 09:51:00 AM
The winter concern for me would be if moisture permeated the sand/dirt and became frozen. I've muffed up a couple of arrows hitting very frozen ground.

How are the dirt type targets when it has been rained on? Do they get the arrows pretty gummy?
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Over&Under on June 01, 2010, 09:58:00 AM
Thanks for the responses!  I will be giving this a try     :thumbsup:
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Post by: BigStriper on June 01, 2010, 11:02:00 AM
Jack is that sand or a sand dirt mix,

Kurt
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: bolong on June 01, 2010, 11:37:00 AM
I've got a permanent shooting platform same height as I usually hunt from with 4 sand piles,10, 15, 20, and 25 yards. Build it in 1972 and just as food today as it was then. It even has lights so I can shoot at night.
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Jack Whitmire Jr on June 01, 2010, 03:08:00 PM
100% sand left over from installing a pool   :saywhat:  

Frozen ground would be a concern in Wisconson but not really here .
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Hopewell Tom on June 01, 2010, 04:52:00 PM
There's always a better mousetrap! I just finished my new target/backstop with used carpet and plastic filled feed bag. Feeling pretty good about it and now this.... Now, that's the next one. I like the broadhead comments too. I've got just the place for this one - where my new carpet one is!
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Red Beastmaster on June 01, 2010, 04:53:00 PM
I found that saw dust is much less abrasive on arrows and broadheads than sand.
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: BobW on June 01, 2010, 05:13:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Hot Hap:
Will it draw cats?
thank god YES!     :saywhat:
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Killdeer on June 01, 2010, 05:15:00 PM
Pounding sand for a year with no ill effects?
  :bigsmyl:
This idea is illustrated in the first Archer's Bible by Fred Bear. Worked then... and now!

Killdeer   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: JPNTN on June 01, 2010, 06:03:00 PM
What a great way to "turn" the compost!

BobW - too funny.  Glad someone shares my love of feral felines as well!
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Jack Whitmire Jr on June 01, 2010, 07:58:00 PM
Oh Killy I had to think about that for a second or two .

Sawdust, wonder if it will stop an arrow? What do you do wet it down , then let it settle to compact it????
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Mudd on June 01, 2010, 11:15:00 PM
Did you place anything under the sand to keep from losing it to the ground beneath?

God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Jack Whitmire Jr on June 02, 2010, 05:14:00 AM
No, Mudd nothing goes through this red clay  we have as top soil, but you could if you need to. Possibly a piece of discarded silt fence from a construction project .

Jack
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Red Beastmaster on June 02, 2010, 08:17:00 AM
I used to have access to an old sawdust pile from an abandoned sawmill. Arrows penetrated about halfway. It was damp and compacted from just being out in the elements. I imagine you could do the same thing on your range with wetting and tamping as you build your pile.

The sand pile I shot at "once only" was at the family concrete plant next door. It took the finish off my wood arrows and half the paint off my Zwickey's.
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: SCATTERSHOT on June 13, 2012, 12:57:00 PM
Sorry, wrong thread
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Archie on June 13, 2012, 01:21:00 PM
Where do I buy one of these?    :smileystooges:  

Seems like they might be expensive to ship.   :knothead:    

Are they made in America?    :laughing:
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: wildcat hunter on June 13, 2012, 02:10:00 PM
Thats a good idea! My 10yr old and I rove the field and when we see an anthill we shoot from where we 1st saw it. Lots of distance guessing and lots of arrows under the grass! Fun but he has wisened up, now he pretends not to see the anthill until we are on top of it.
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Beanbag on June 13, 2012, 02:19:00 PM
Just had a thought, What would happen if you mixed the sand, saw dust. If you poured anti freeze in it that might help freezing in the cold months.???
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: awbowman on June 13, 2012, 02:24:00 PM
The simplest things are usually the best!  Great idea.
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Post by: Danny Rowan on June 13, 2012, 02:47:00 PM
Do not pour anti freeze on the ground, it is toxic and not good for the environment, plus dogs/cats are drawn to it and if they drink even just a sip it will kill them.
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: moththerlode on June 14, 2012, 12:43:00 AM
If you are purosely shooting at dirt, is there a such thing as a miss ? interesting concept
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: KentuckyTJ on June 14, 2012, 08:11:00 AM
Does the sand eventually take the finish off your arrows?
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Over&Under on June 14, 2012, 08:44:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by KentuckyTJ:
Does the sand eventually take the finish off your arrows?
Was wondering the same thing...
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: adeeden on June 14, 2012, 11:12:00 AM
I used the same concept for my backstop, of course I tend to over do things!

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l87/adeeden/photo-7.jpg)

As a tip if you go to your local farm supply and pick up a bag of calcium chloride and mix in with your sand your freezing problem won't happen. thats what they mix with sand to put on the roads in the winter for snow and ice.

personaly when the ground freezes that hard I shoot in the garage, its 20 yards from wall to wall!
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: canopyboy on June 14, 2012, 12:12:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by moththerlode:
If you are purosely shooting at dirt, is there a such thing as a miss ? interesting concept
Not unless you hit the tree that fell when no one was there....
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Fidelios on June 14, 2012, 12:32:00 PM
Now, there is something that I will do as well! Thx!!
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Post by: frassettor on June 14, 2012, 02:58:00 PM
How much sand did you use? Looks like I need one of those! Great job!
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Tracks on June 15, 2012, 01:20:00 AM
I use a pile of glacial silt as a backstop for my bag target and the abrasive fine sand gets all over everything. The scratches on my carbon arrows seem rather superficial, but I have found it to be tough on the inserts (sand gets threaded in with the field point). I try to wipe my arrows clean after hitting the sand or it gets all over my arrow rest and that can't be good for the bow finish.
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: two4hooking on June 15, 2012, 02:38:00 PM
A big ol'pile of mulch works good also.  Local Landfill sells it by the truckload cheap!
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Post by: Real Buckmaster on June 16, 2012, 08:47:00 AM
I use one large hay bale. Grass grows all over here
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Post by: Lineman72 on June 25, 2013, 10:09:00 AM
I like the idea, but I don't like the sand staying on my arrow and getting on my glove then gets in my mouth.
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Post by: shirikahn on June 25, 2013, 11:11:00 AM
I've always thought that sod that was cut, then rolled and stacked lengthwise would work...but never tried it.
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Post by: VictoryHunter on June 25, 2013, 11:52:00 AM
Looks good to me!
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Post by: heydeerman on June 25, 2013, 01:47:00 PM
I'm gonna build one but I'm gonna build in 2 half boxes and put it on a hinge so I can keep it covered so the neighborhood cats don't make use of it.
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: reddogge on June 25, 2013, 01:53:00 PM
Just wondering if that rubberized stuff you can buy for kids playgrounds would work.
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Post by: TGbow on June 25, 2013, 02:00:00 PM
That's the best kind. Most the targets on the market are too expensive IMO.
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Post by: Kituwa on June 25, 2013, 02:42:00 PM
Do you have problems with the face of your target getting dirty?,,LoL
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Post by: Bldtrailer on June 25, 2013, 03:46:00 PM
CATS ? a problem ?
Title: Re: Best Target I ever owned
Post by: Bladepeek on June 25, 2013, 04:41:00 PM
My best target would be my wife's cat, but I'm not allowed to use it.