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Title: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Bel007 on May 21, 2010, 07:30:00 PM
One trip to Rural King for a Horse Mat ($35), some lumber and screws ($25) and I have a new semi-portable backstop.

You'll see from the last picture that a good backstop is needed for my new range... standing on pergola over deck and shooting over the pool into a brick wall.  

It is the only opportunity I have to practice from an elevated position.  About 10 feet high and 13 yards out.

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Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: chuckbow on May 21, 2010, 07:32:00 PM
AWSOME!
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: ron w on May 21, 2010, 07:35:00 PM
Nice job!! Whatever it takes!!
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Bent Rig on May 21, 2010, 07:35:00 PM
That's what I suggested in another thread ! They work great - can't see using anything else , had mine for several years - nothin' better !!  :archer2:
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Glenn Hickey Jr. on May 21, 2010, 07:41:00 PM
Yes it does work great.  I have used one INSIDE my business for over a year.  No arrow damage, and no shooting thru it.  The only issure is the mat is heavy and hard to handle
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: ranger 3 on May 21, 2010, 07:55:00 PM
What is a horse mat?
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: FrankM on May 21, 2010, 08:05:00 PM
Excellent! I just buillt one too, removed the plywood and placed a stall/cow/horse mat on it and it's excellent!
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: yukon chuck on May 21, 2010, 08:12:00 PM
Very nice. Built myself a similar set up recently and am loving it.
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: pdk25 on May 21, 2010, 08:30:00 PM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on May 21, 2010, 08:54:00 PM
Howard, A horse mat is a thick rubber mat they put in the bottom of spoiled horse s stalls.  I guess it's more comfortable on their feet. It's also nice because the urine doesn't go into the dirt hence creating less stink in the summer.

You can find them at Tractor supply!
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: KentuckyWolf on May 21, 2010, 08:59:00 PM
Nice.....I have been thinking about building a backstop like that for a while. It might result in some indoor winter shooting...instead of freezin' my butt off.
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: lpcjon2 on May 21, 2010, 09:15:00 PM
Very nice,But what are we going to do about those milk crates can you paint them the same color,or maybe use a hay bail.Just kidden Great job!
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Northwest_Bowhunter on May 21, 2010, 09:20:00 PM
This is very cool, I need to make one right away.
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Ringneck on May 21, 2010, 09:53:00 PM
Those stall mats are heavy! Should stop an arrow just fine.
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Bel007 on May 21, 2010, 11:29:00 PM
Hay bale?  What's that? I've never used one of them, only these rubber mats and milk crates. Hay bales!  Who'd o' thunk it?   ;)
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Hopewell Tom on May 22, 2010, 05:57:00 AM
So it looks like you just hang the mat, don't nail at the bottom? I saw in another thread about using 3 layers of used carpet and presume the hang from the top only too. Although you wouldn't get any "swing" from your setup as you have the bottom 2x4 to bump against.
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Keefer on May 22, 2010, 05:58:00 AM
Brian,
 That's one of simplest backstops I've seen yet and I like the way it's framed...I have been wanting something in my yard that will be permanent and I may use some white ceder or pressure treated...Anyone know about how long those matts will last in the weather?I know they take a beating in the "horse stalls" just wondering about the sun if they were left out over the years...Great job Brian and maybe you can get this put up in the How to section for newcomers...  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Eugene Slagle on May 22, 2010, 06:08:00 AM
Looks like I'm going to thr Tractor Supply to get me a mat.

Thanx for the info.
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Cherry Tree on May 22, 2010, 08:06:00 AM
thats sweet! ive always used a hot tub cover lol!
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Bel007 on May 22, 2010, 02:31:00 PM
I used 5 screws w large washers at the top to secure it.  I don't see a need for securing the bottom.  Kinda gives the mat even more "umph" absorption.  From my bows nothing gets all the way through it, a few heavies penetrate through the point.  

Not sure how long they last.  I have one that has been up over a year w/o any deterioration.  Presume it will last several more years.  Then I can just unscrew the old mat and screw on a new one.
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: FrankM on May 22, 2010, 02:46:00 PM
Hey Brian, you've used minimal wood there, and your supports are low. Do you find it pretty sturdy or does it seem a bit light?
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Mountainboy on May 22, 2010, 07:37:00 PM
Excellent idea!  Just might build one myself!  Thanks for the pics!
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Bel007 on May 22, 2010, 08:05:00 PM
Frank
Back seems real solid as is.  I used 3inch decking screws rather than nails.  I left the option to add a front brace if needed... but there just isn't that much force going into the thing so I figured I'd be OK with it as is.  Now if my kids decide to use it as a monkey bar set.. I may need to beef it up.
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Craig Schoneberg on May 22, 2010, 09:06:00 PM
Just got back from Tractor Supply - with my new backstop.  Thanks for the info . . .
Craig
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: FrankM on May 22, 2010, 09:17:00 PM
Thanks Brian! When I replaced my plywood, I had to shore up two corners cause of my design. I might change it around to your style if it starts to weaken.
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Craig Schoneberg on May 23, 2010, 01:24:00 PM
My backstop is now built and being used.
Craig
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: mcgroundstalker on May 23, 2010, 03:10:00 PM
Very, very, very good idea! Think I'll build one like it myself.   :thumbsup:  Although I will use pressure treated lumber...

... mike ...   :archer2:   ...
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: onemoreshot on May 23, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
What is the size of the mat?
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: SveinD on May 23, 2010, 03:23:00 PM
Looks good! But that mat'd cost more like 150$ in Norway  :(
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: coaster500 on May 23, 2010, 03:24:00 PM
Brian, can you shoot thru the mat? I mean if you miss and it takes a direct hit will the arrow go all the way thru?
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: JRY309 on May 23, 2010, 04:00:00 PM
Nice job!
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Bel007 on May 23, 2010, 04:22:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by coaster500:
Brian, can you shoot thru the mat? I mean if you miss and it takes a direct hit will the arrow go all the way thru?
Nope. Not with a stick bow.  My heaviest arrows (approx 735gr) out of my heaviest bow (#60) will penetrate through the field point with about 1 inch sticking out the back.

When I shot a compound at 300+fps I could get about half an arrow to penetrate.

I have not tried (i.e. missed on purpose) with a broadhead yet so can't say for sure how the mat handles a BH.
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Hud on May 23, 2010, 04:46:00 PM
Great idea.  I have compressed straw bales (3) sitting on top of a dolly, inside the garage with plywood against the wall. The stall mat would work better than the plywood. The bales weigh around 80 lbs each, and they are wrapped inside 4 mil. plastic to keep the straw off the floor. I like the mat idea better, with a Block style target much better, less mess and takes up less space. Thanks
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: FrankM on May 23, 2010, 05:12:00 PM
I have the same mat. I shot it with a 54# bow, with a 593 gr. arrow and a Zwickey Black Diamond from about 10 feet away. The arrow went through about 4-5 inches.
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: coaster500 on May 23, 2010, 11:04:00 PM
Tough stuff  :)  

Thanks for the answer ---->
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: drags on May 24, 2010, 10:21:00 PM
This is exactly what I've been looking for to put in my backyard.  I'll be making mine this weekend.  Thanks for sharing Brian.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Bel007 on May 25, 2010, 12:10:00 AM
:thumbsup:  
glad y'all like it.  Feels good to finally contribute something here that other find usefull.
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Jack Denbow on May 25, 2010, 08:01:00 AM
What size screws did you use to hold the mat up, it looks heavy.
Jack
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Dave Bowers on May 25, 2010, 10:41:00 AM
Thats really nice...gives me a great idea for my new house.
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: gregk on May 25, 2010, 11:22:00 AM
I like it!!     :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Bonecracker on May 25, 2010, 11:42:00 AM
Yep, thats what I did! Works great and I have not lost an carbon arrow since!!!  :bigsmyl:    :bigsmyl:    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Bel007 on May 25, 2010, 11:50:00 AM
I used 3" deck screws for the project.  5 screws on the top w/ washers hold it up there just fine.
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Jack Denbow on May 25, 2010, 12:45:00 PM
Thanks Brian.
Jack
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: FrankM on May 25, 2010, 11:50:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bel007:
I used 3" deck screws for the project.  5 screws on the top w/ washers hold it up there just fine.
Yeah, that's what I used, except no washers. Just put in about 20 screws.
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: wharvey on May 26, 2010, 01:35:00 AM
How much does it cost @ Tractor Supply?
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Craig Schoneberg on May 26, 2010, 08:35:00 AM
onemoreshot  - the mats are 4' x 6'
Craig
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Jack Denbow on May 26, 2010, 02:09:00 PM
I think they are $40. at Tractor Supply.
Jack
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Paul/KS on May 26, 2010, 05:06:00 PM
TS is having a Memorial Day weekend sale and I saw that those mats are $35.00 till Monday...

Just a "heads up".  ;)
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: Raging Water on May 26, 2010, 11:33:00 PM
Here is another target back stop that utilizes a rack. It is just wood and black paint.

The back stop uses three layers of carpet. The carpet was being tossed out by a neighbor.

Yes, it stops broad heads.

When the carpet wears out I will put up a horse mat as well.

 (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Rack/P1010107.jpg)   (http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac138/hemdell/Rack/P1010105.jpg)
Title: Re: Built a new target backstop
Post by: FrankM on May 27, 2010, 10:23:00 PM
Looks like a horsemat will fit right on it. For my target, I hung my bag like yours and got rid of that stupid tub. It wasn't staying stiff enough and almost ate my feathers! LOL