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Title: Woodys hitting high?
Post by: BowHuntingFool on May 19, 2010, 05:10:00 PM
Well I just picked up a dozen sherwood shafts, I was shooting Heritage 150's. My arrow flight is pretty straight but just hitting high. There is about a 25g difference in weight between the 2, with the sherwood's being light.

My question is... Why are they hitting high? Nock point to low or just the weight difference?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Woodys hitting high?
Post by: woodcock on May 19, 2010, 06:24:00 PM
I would think that it is a spine/material difference.  I was surprised to see how nicely wood arrows fly out of my bow.  I have not noticed a significant point of impact difference at 15 -20 yds with a 25 gr difference in arrow shaft weight.  Changing point weight 25 grs. can make a slight change at 20 yds.  Usually only 2-3 inches.  If they are shooting higher therefore flatter that is more efficient use of your bow energy, that is good.  What can be vexing is the effect it has on your learned aiming points.  This can be remedied by changing point weight and/or nock point and arrrow length for some people.
Title: Re: Woodys hitting high?
Post by: jason1040 on May 19, 2010, 06:44:00 PM
Your target must be jumping the string.
Title: Re: Woodys hitting high?
Post by: Steve H. on May 19, 2010, 07:26:00 PM
Maybe they are not hitting high, perhaps those other shafts are just hitting low.....
Title: Re: Woodys hitting high?
Post by: kennym on May 19, 2010, 08:05:00 PM
Are the woodies larger in diameter? If so,a nock raise may be in order to get the arrow back to however much above square you normally shoot...
Title: Re: Woodys hitting high?
Post by: Onehair on May 19, 2010, 08:07:00 PM
What Kenny said
Title: Re: Woodys hitting high?
Post by: Guru on May 19, 2010, 09:04:00 PM
Yes what Kenny said....but...

Call me crazy, but when I shoot woodies that are about the same weight of my carbons, they definitely shoot higher then the front loaded carbons.  

Only takes a few shots to get used to it, but there's a difference....
Title: Re: Woodys hitting high?
Post by: BCWV on May 19, 2010, 09:20:00 PM
I have to raise my nock 1/4" when switching from 5/16 carbons to 11/32 woods. It may not be needed for anyone else but it's standard procedure for me. I would think that 1/8" would put me where I need to be but it always ends up 1/4.
Title: Re: Woodys hitting high?
Post by: lpcjon2 on May 19, 2010, 09:22:00 PM
I misunderstood myself, move the nock point 1/16 to 1/8th up and see how it works you can find a median for both arrows with slight adjustments.
Title: Re: Woodys hitting high?
Post by: Bowferd on May 19, 2010, 09:35:00 PM
I'm learning.
This is a very good topic of conversation. Although I've read the same comments many times, this post and answers from you guys has turned a light bulb on.
Thought I was going too high on the nocking point. Now think I will try higher and work my way down.
I went to woodies and cane exclusively about 2 years ago.
Kept a dz or so 3355/5575's around as target beaters.
Carbons and cane seem to shoot equally well out of a variety of  bows but the woodies seem a bit more tempermental to individual bows.
Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: Woodys hitting high?
Post by: BowHuntingFool on May 19, 2010, 11:36:00 PM
Good stuff fellas! Yeah the carbons are a smaller diameter than the 11/32 wood shafts. I was gettin a excellent group from 6 arrows just all high? I'm gonna re-tie a nock point on tomorrow just a bit high and hope to bring em back into the pocket! I love the way the fly!
Title: Re: Woodys hitting high?
Post by: Don Stokes on May 20, 2010, 12:44:00 AM
Be sure the spine is right, too.
Title: Re: Woodys hitting high?
Post by: eric-thor on May 20, 2010, 01:13:00 AM
ive seen that before i think its just less foc causing a flatter trajectory
Title: Re: Woodys hitting high?
Post by: longbowman on May 20, 2010, 08:25:00 AM
Are the arrows hitting the target high or is the back of the arrow high when it strikes the target?  If the arrows are flying straight off the bow with no up and down kicking of the back end of the arrow then your point of impact is just higher and you'll need to shoot until your mind and eye adjust for it.  You don't adjust the nock point for anything other than arrow flight.
Title: Re: Woodys hitting high?
Post by: BowHuntingFool on May 20, 2010, 08:47:00 AM
I'm getting excellent arrow flight and the arrows are straight on in the target! So you think its just me and that I will get used to the flight after I keep on shooting?
Title: Re: Woodys hitting high?
Post by: longbowman on May 20, 2010, 08:55:00 AM
If you're truly shooting instinctive you will adjust very quickly.  If you're using an aiming method like gap or point of aim then you just need to adjust.  Like Guru said, he gets the same thing but he adjusts to it very quickly.  It's like going from cedars to laminated birch.  The birch are so much heavier that they impact way low but after a round of stump shooting I can't tell the difference.
Title: Re: Woodys hitting high?
Post by: BowHuntingFool on May 20, 2010, 09:07:00 AM
I don't even know my arrow is on the bow when I shoot! I do notice that I really need to concentrate and aim when shooting them. I'm coming from shooting carbons for almost 3 years now, it might take a bit of getting used to then....