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Title: Centershot
Post by: FrankM on May 13, 2010, 12:16:00 PM
Centershot has been defined as when the string cuts the arrow in half. But, Stu Miller calls centershot when the strke plate is in the center of the string. That would make the arrow point go left of the string when looking down it.
Why are these definitions different? It seems it would affect the use of Stu's calculator.
Title: Re: Centershot
Post by: fz4vgq on May 13, 2010, 12:31:00 PM
I've always thought of "centercut" as a riser cut to center but not past and "Centershot" as a riser cut past center giving the arrow a straight shot in relation to the string.
Title: Re: Centershot
Post by: fz4vgq on May 13, 2010, 12:36:00 PM
Also.... "Centershot" is kind of a wheel bow term though there are traditional bows like BW's that are cut 3/16th's past center to effectively give you a "centershot" setup with a typical arrow.
Title: Re: Centershot
Post by: FrankM on May 13, 2010, 12:39:00 PM
Oops, I changed the title.
Title: Re: Centershot
Post by: Fletcher on May 13, 2010, 12:43:00 PM
fz4 has it the way I see it.  Centercut, or cut to center refers to the bows riser.  This is what Stu's calculator is referring to as well.
Title: Re: Centershot
Post by: Old York on May 13, 2010, 04:29:00 PM
From Fletch: "Centercut, or cut to center refers to the bows riser." That makes good sense to me.

"Centre-shot" is ambiguious as hell....if you're set up with so-called 'centre-shot' and then simply change the diameter of your arrow, you're no longer at true centre-shot. They ought to just drop the term, and not make it synonymous with 'centre-cut'. Now if I can just figure out who 'they' is, LOL!
Title: Re: Centershot
Post by: ishoot4thrills on May 13, 2010, 10:11:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by FrankM:
It seems it would affect the use of Stu's calculator.
Yes, a bow's distance to being "cut to center" being cut either more or less has a TREMENDOUS affect on Stu's calculator. Probably the single most important entry.
Title: Re: Centershot
Post by: koger on May 13, 2010, 10:53:00 PM
I set up a lot of trad bows for folks in my community and the 4H kids I coach. A lot of custom and factory bows are cut past center, as posted above, so the shaft is on centerline w/string, or in a little too much. YOu can then use pads, stick on rests or leather etc., to build out to center. I use a center shot tool, like on wheelie bows. YOu can easily tune, shoot in and get your bow shooting, often with a wide variety of shafts in a few minutes, alleviates a lot of the frustrations you hear people venting/discussing on hear about. I wont shoot any of my bows off the shelf, I usually induce too much extra wiggle in them that way. PM me if I can help some more.
Title: Re: Centershot
Post by: FrankM on May 13, 2010, 11:45:00 PM
Thanks guys. Here is an interesting video, the tool starts at about 4 minutes:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTTd3jYEd_Q  

Desert Dude told me how to make one. It's easy, a bottle cap, a hanger wire, and a rubber gasket! Now, I am able to find center shot, and adjust accordingly. If I know where my rest begins, and how far I move it, I have accuracy. In fact, I think my 2018's are tuned.