Ok so I am shooting a 46# at my 28 inch, reflex deflex lonbow. I shoot split finger with 125 grains up front on a 29 1/2 inch aluminum arrow. They are three fletch with 5 inch shield cut feathers. The aluminum arrow that shoots like a dart is... 2216? Why is that? Isn't 2216 supposed to be too stiff?
Yes, it is!
You will have to start making a smacking sound at release, like the arrow is slapping the riser, and consistently miss to one side.
You'll be freaking us out if you don't.
Killdeer
QuoteOriginally posted by Killdeer:
Yes, it is!
You will have to start making a smacking sound at release, like the arrow is slapping the riser, and consistently miss to one side.
You'll be freaking us out if you don't.
Killdeer
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I can't stop laughing!! :biglaugh:
For most people it would be too stiff. You may have a slightly less that smooth release that imparts more paradox into the arrow. As long as you are consistant, it shouldn't matter.
Are you sure there 2216 and not 2016?
Most bows, particularly if they're cut fairly close to center, will shoot a wide range of arrow spines well. I shoot mostly woodies, but can shoot a 20# spine difference out of most of my bows, as long as the spine is heavier than the draw weight.
A 2216 is a heavy spine arrow; it's also a physically heavy arrow, which requires more spine.
In recent years, I think folks have become a bit too wrapped up in finding the perfect arrow for their bows. There is one for every bow, of course, but there are also lots of others that will shoot just about as well, well enough, at least that most folks wouldn't know the difference, and/or couldn't shoot the difference.
If it's working...that's great! There are no absolutes, just basic guides to work from.
Shoot straight brother! =0)
Well first off they totally are 2216s, and taking Killdeer's advice I to have begun to freak out!
Are you sure this isn't a 28" draw, but rather a 35"
Lol sorry had to.
Baffles me my friend.
I shoot just a hair more weight and two inches longer. I can get 2216's to work fine...untill I back up.
Bare shaft, or broadhead tune comparing to fletched field points at multiple distances, and I think you'll find out what's what. 0-20 yards I can make about any too-stiff shaft work, but beyond that things start showing.
How do they shoot bare? They do sound like they would be too stiff especially for a 46# longbow,shoot one bare and see how it flys.Just a thought.
Put a broadhead on and see what happens. I have an old Groves that I was going to hunt turkeys with. It seemed to like 400 MFX arrows...shot right down the middle...with field points. I did not take the time to bare shaft with the bow and when i put on a broadhead, at 15 yards I was two feet off to the left....consistently. I found that the bow really liked 500's better.
Thanks for the advice folks. I have shot three broadheads through my bow now, Ace 125, Zwickey Eskimo, and Bear Razorheads. All flew fine out past 40 yards with the only difference being a slightly faster drop, about 1 1/2 - 2 inches at 20 yards.
Your glass wouldn't be half EMPTY would it?
Brace height will also affect spine as well as bowstring material and how many strands to make the bowstring.
As an example. I shoot 2212 aluminum arrows out of all three of my low poundage bows. If I raise the brace height on my 42# Blacktail recurve to 7 3/4", I need a 140 grain point weight. However, since I lowered the brace height to 7 3/8", I now need 180 grains. This is how I was able to shoot the 2212 out of all three of my bows by playing around with the brace height. I shoot the same 145 grain STOS broadhead out of all three bows too. My "complete" setup for all three of my bows is below. Keep in mind the recommended brace height for a 66" Blacktail TD is 7 3/4"-8" and this is stated by the bowyer, Norm Johnson.
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 42# @ 30". BS: 14 Strand Dyna97. BrcHt: 7 3/8". NS: 5/8". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 180 Grains. AW: 523 Grains. GPP: 12.45 (FOC): 17.0%
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 37# @ 30". BS: 13 Strand Dyna97. BrcHt: 7 5/8". NS: 5/8". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 185 Grains. AW: 528 Grains. GPP: 14.27 (FOC): 17.3%
Belcher Longhorn LB: 68", 41# @ 30". BS: 14 Strand Dacron. BrcHt: 6 5/8". NS: 5/8". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 180 Grains. AW: 523 Grains. GPP: 12.75 (FOC): 17.0%
If it ain't broke I wouldn't try to fix it.
don't over think it. If they bare shaft tune they are correct. 2216s are 83# spine on my spine tester. I have a 74# longbow that likes 2317s with 124 grain heads. 2317s are 125# spine. I have a "live" release, you probably do too.