How does a bow quiver affect shooting? Having 4,5or 6 arrows hanging off the bow must have some affect on hitting the "spot". And what happens as you start to empty the quiver? I have a 5 arrow Selway, but like the compactness of the 4 arrow say... Anneewakee. I like more arrows, but in a tree stand, theoretically at least, you probably only get one shot. If there is an effect, should you practise with one arrow out of the quiver?
it doesnt bother some people but some it does, doesnt bother me any.
I don't like them. They throw off the balance of the bow, and hurt the looks. Loose loose for me. H
I've tried just about everything out there in way of a bow quiver and cannot get used to them. :banghead: They make my bow feel akward. I keep returning to my old trusty hip quiver. :archer:
I mostly hunt with m backquiver or Catquiver but I do like the bowquiver under certain conditions. I use and really like my GN Adjustable. Lightweight and doesn't affect my shooting.
I wrote a paper on this subject in college. It was a long time ago and most of the availble studies concerned the effect of a quiver mounted on a compound bow. There is a defifinite change in balance and harmonics whith a quiver mounted. While practical accuracy may not suffer, the point of impact can change. Bottom line is that if you have acceptable accuracy with the quiver attached you should practice with the number of arrows in it you would have when taking a shot in the field. Keep in mind this study was done concerning compound bows. I wish I still had the paper and research notes, but it was 30 yrs ago and they have been lost.
Check out this article on the subject... the author suggests that, indeed, it will affect your shooting. I know for me it certainly does. I tend to shoot a little better with a quiver on some bows, and better without one on others. Either way, adding a quiver does change the mass of the bow and balance. For some shooters this is critical, for others it is not. A quiver will absorb some energy from the bow, this reduces the energy going from the limbs to the string to the arrow.
Anything attached to the bow will theorically have some effect. The weight of the bow, shooting style, weight of the bow quiver, how it attaches, and distance of the quiver weight from the bow attachment are all factors in how much the shooting will be affected.
You have several choices. You can go with a heavier quiver and adjust or tune the bow to it, or you can use a lightweight quiver that fastens close to the bow which will have minimal effect. If you use a heavier quiver then you should not be putting it on and taking it off as the point of arrow impact will change.
At EFA we are dedicated to making lightweight quivers that don't affect how the bow shoots. I shoot a lightweight Beeler longbow and I would not consider using a heavier quiver. I believe that an idea bow quiver should not change how the bow shoots except in a positive way such as making a lightweight bow a little more stable and possibly quieter.
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I shot my longbow for about a year and a half without quiver, using POC's from about 12 gpp. I shot really accurate with them.
Then I wanted to shoot faster. So I got new arrows, which brought me to 9.4 gpp. I also installed an ultraskinny string, I went from 16 to 6 strands (with padded loops however).
In my new set-up, the bow felt a little unstable and was developing more handshock and vibration.
I ordered a Tunderhorn strap-on quiver which can hold six arrows.(wrote a review about it, see the review dept.)
For me it was just great! It reduced the handshock and made the bow much more stable. You are adding appr. 1 lbs weigth to your bow with a empty Thunderhorn quiver.
I retuned my setup with bareshafting and ended up with adding 20 grains more to the point.
Typically, a bowquiver will affect your dynamic spine with 3-5 lbs less. This is the same I noticed while bareshafting.
My arrows weigh 360 grains each and there are 6 in my quiver.
At training, I can't mention any differences with one, two, three or even all arrows out!
As a matter of fact, I was training at 45 yards yesterday. In the middle of my target there is a small yellow circle of about 4 inches. There was no difference shooting the first or the last arrow out of my quiver. All arrows were very close or in the yellow circle. But this can be my poor form....
I bareshafted with just one arrow out, being the situation you will enter the most.
Tom,you will get a lot of different answers.It is a good idea to tune the setup with a full quiver minus one arrow.The larger the quiver,naturally,the more chance of it affecting the bow.Mounting the quiver way out to the side or forward of the riser can increase the affect.Occasionally you will see someone with the their quiver mounted so it is out past the fadeouts,ie. on the working part of the limb and this is not good either.
I have the EFA quiver and see zero affect on 3 different bows that I have tried it on.I still tune with it on and 3 arrows in it plus practice that way.These quivers only weigh 4-5 ounces,are silent and hold the arrows well.
I have some other quivers that weigh a little more and hold more arrows and I feel some difference from bare bow to quiver on but as long as I tune and practice with it on,it is no problem.The extra mass may even help a little.
As far as emptying the quiver,the change,arrow to arrow,will be so slight that you probably won't notice and you will be too busy to worry about it anyway.
I had never considered a quiver for a trad bow, but again I am still a newbie.
But I saw a youtube vid that a guy made a "quiver blind" to shield the draw arm and it really intrigued me as I will be stalking and hunting off of the ground exclusively this year.
I know for a fact for me that a quiver on my wheelie bows noticeably changed my shot.
I'll certainly have to check into these efa quivers.
Tim
I tend to shoot very light weight bows (mass weight) and the bow quiver actually helps me shoot a better as it has a stabilizing effect and adds a little weight to the bow.
I agree, I forgot to tell, the mass weight of my bow is also very low.
Yes, it does affect the bow somewhat. It will add a bit of weight to the riser and what not as stated above. I think they hurt some bows and help others. A bow that is light in the riser can benefit from the extra weight.
I love a bowquiver on my longbows. My Great Northern is perfect. It helps me to keep my bow arm still and decreases handshock.
There is also something about having more mass to the right of the riser visually. It feels like I have a more focused site window.
Never tried one on a longbow but saw no difference with my recurves other than making them quieter. Chrono'd them and found no drop in arrow speed. Just heavier bow. Actually helped my shooting. FWIW, a heavy Selway.
I use a bow quiver on my longbow, I can't really see any difference in my shots. It's nice to have the arrows right there, bad shoulder keeps me from reaching back to get the arrow in a back quiver and a hip quiver snags on everything I walk past.
I love a bow quiver on a bow....thats why we make them! :goldtooth:
A bow quiver helps me with stability on my longbow. Also dampens vibrations somewhat, if you place it near the fade of the riser section
I've always shot with a bow quiver be it on a Longbow or Recurve. I find it helps the bow naturally fall into the cant I like. I have found I actually shoot better with one on but that's probably just because I am so used to them being on the bow.
I have a Eagle flight Quiver on all my bows and the extra weight, however slight it is helps my shooting.
These really are great quivers!!!!!
I use a bow quiver during deer season. It's just one less hassle up in a tree or while carrying a stand on your back. I rarely use one once the season is over. A takedown recurve is heavy enough, I'll use a back or hip quiver throughout the off season.
I can't say a quiver makes me more or less accurate but I do have to get used to the switch.
I struggled with a few bows when I used a GN strap on quiver, primarily longbows. In fact, I sold a few longbows because of it and later learned it was the quiver :knothead:
i find that I shoot just A LITTLE bit better with the quiver on. I do take it off occasionally, especially if I'm hunting on the ground. I don't know about the rest of you, but I find that my bow quivers actually quiet the bows a little.
Nothing prettier than a nice bow quiver filled with a matched set of arrows. However, as those before have said, some folks and some bows are effected and some aren't. I don't use a bow quiver just because there is more to catch the eye of the animal I'm hunting at the moment of the shot.
Good Luck,
Jerry
A longbow is made to "move out of the way" on the shot. A quiver slows this natural motion and until your "computer" makes the adjustment, it will affect your shot.
A recurve on the other hand, has more mass and is centershot. It doesn't have that suttle movement away so doesn't affect the shot much if at all.
I don't know about the hybrids and anything learned on a compuund certainly doesn't apply.
Definately, I like the added weight. It helps stabilize my bow arm, and it doesn't affect my shooting on my BW PSA V Recurve.
IMO if you intend to hunt with a bow quiver do all of your practice and 3Ds with it on your bow. It may not affect point of impacted but it definitely affects how the bow feels in your hands
as you shoot it. And changing things from practice to the real deal is never good. IMO
Lots of good comments, thanks. I remember reading Fred Asbell talking about quivers and how he was always changing things around. Sometimes on the bow sometimes not. I see from an earlier post here, most have more than one quiver, some a dozen or so. I'm thinking I'll try a 3 or 4 arrow bow quiver to see if I like it. Some situations I want more arrows than that, but others maybe OK with just a few. I've also found the bow quiver to feel good sometimes. Others not so good. I agree, practice with the hunt setup.
Depends on the bow, some it helps with vibration and some it seems to throw off the balance. Either way if you are going to use a bow quiver practice with it with full just like you are hunting.
in 15 yrs of shootin ive never wanted to use a bow quiver untill now.last season i had such a hard time hunting with a back quiver, i have decided it was time to try something new. this is my kanati bow quiver (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/winterpicsandbowpics027.jpg) the extra mass really help in qieting the bow some. it also took some adjustment in my shooting , but im getting used to it (http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt101/broketooth/winterpicsandbowpics024.jpg)john dill of aneewakee archery makes an awesome quiver y'all should check them out
I realy dont care for for bow quivers, but I like them better than having one more thing hanging on my back or around my neck.
I put EFA quivers on my Shrews, hardly know they're there. Bows a little quieter and the tad more weight is nice. They're on there to stay!
Great quivers Don!
My Hill style bows are prooving to be more finicky, I think Biggie is right about the "longbows move out of the way on the shot" thing.
Eric
Great lookin rig there Rudy! I'll see you at Sissipahaw!
Eric, you're right. The 3 and 4 arrow EFA bow quivers were made for bows like the shrew, banchees, beelers and other high performance lightweight bows. The 3 arrow quiver weighs only 3.2 ounzes. That's about 1/3 the weight of most other quivers. Our 3 and 4 arrow standard quivers are guaranteed not to change how the bow shoots.
We also make larger 4 arrow and 5 arrow quivers. Even though they are lighter weight then most of the competition, they could have some effect on some lighter weight bows.
Sure a bow quiver will change the way your bow handles. If it is just the weight/mass of the arrows on the side of your bow. But it can be good and bad as you have read here. What ever you choose, just make sure you practice w/ it before hunting season. Do so enough that you get use to it in every situation. A recipe for disaster is to strap one to your favorite stick and head out on opening day.
I have an EFA 4 arrow quiver that I use on my Kanati longbow. It has no affect on the shot. The EFA is so light weight, I hardly notice it, even with arrows in it. I had a Thunderhorn Linx on it and it was too heavy to suit me on that bow. It works real nice on my Dryad Orion though. The Orion has a bit more mass to begin with, so the quiver doesn't seem to be over powering it.
If I'm hunting out of a pop-up blind, I prefer a detachable quiver or a side quiver. It is handier to be able to set the bow down without the nocks sticking in the dirt. From a tree stand or still hunting, I much prefer a bow quiver.
Strap on bow quivers do absorb some vibration, and therefore quiet the bow. I don't think they affect the energy imparted on the arrow, though they do dampen vibration after the arrow leaves the string. I'm not so sure bolt on quivers do much to quiet the bow, at least the ones I've had didn't seem to.
Good question and lots of great answers. :thumbsup: