Trad Gang

Does this look right to anyone? Man, when I hold this bow the arrow just doesn't look right!      
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I looked down the bow from end to end when strung but, it did not look like the limbs were twisted. It just looks like the string and riser do not line up correctly. If this is the case, can it be corrected? Any bow docs willing to take a look at it? I have no idea who the bowyer might be. I would like to keep the bow as a stumping and loaner bow but, not sure what to do.    :rolleyes:

looks like your plate material is to thick--and very low brace hieght

the string is not centered on the limbs in the pics,

What do the tips look like when strung? Post some pics of them TW.

Can you say warped limb?

How does it shoot? Draw the bow to full draw and have someone watch the limbs to see if they track true. Lay the bow down strung with the belly facing up and look at the string to see if it tracks down the center of the bow. Your pics are misleading since they are not truly shot perpindicular to the bow, possible optical illusion.

Ok, stand by and I'll take a couple more photos.

Well, I don't think these are going to help much either. Brace height was right at 8" from deepest part of the grip. Maybe it's just me?  Wife says limbs looked to bend straight to her.  :(
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I think it's you.  Your side plate may be too thick at the front of the bow which is what is pushing the arrow out?  It may not fit your grip?  How does it shoot is the correct question.  If it shoots OK, then it is just an illusion.  Bill

Bill, I just took it out and shot it. It shot pretty straight but, I have to do some finaggling with my wrist. I think it is the grip that is messing me up. Gonna take some getting used to that's for sure. I want to keep it as it hits pretty dang hard for 54# @ 29".

Is the grip slightly too big?  I notice that your wrist is not straight, was that just for the picture?  Depending on how thick the leather is, you may want to try different leather or possibly none, it looks like it has a good wood in the riser.  Bill

Shoot the Heck out of it! nothing wrong with it..so the ears are not perfect but 99.9% of traditional archers are not good enough shots to see a difference.....Right guy behind that bow could win IBO....Shoot it!!! shoot it!!!

The grip is slightly big. I was thinking of taking the leather off but, it is glued on. Will this mess up the finish? How do I clean the glue off? Riser wood looks like Cocobolo but not sure.

Should just be put on with leather cement and it will pretty much rub off. Finish should be fine.

Key word "should"  :)  .

What Ringneck said.  Both posts.  May wait for a bowmaker to chime in before you start removing leather.  Bill

Thanks everyone! I really appreciate all the inputs. I got a PM with information on who the bowyer is and how I may be able to get a hold of him. Will be giving this venue a try tomorrow.

I shot the bow in the back yard some more and my wife brought up a good point. The bow is extremely quiet and has no string silencers on it.   :)  Hmmmmm.

If it keeps shooting left just send it to me. I tend to shoot right anyway.  LOL   :bigsmyl:

The string looks to be tracking fine right down the edge if the window. The bow is cut an eigth or more from center giving you a different looking arrow angle at zero draw-most self bows would look even more extreme. Take the sidecut into account when tuning and you should be fine.

The more I handle the bow, the more I think I'm just not used to this style of grip. It seems to fling an EL 2018, 29.5 bop w/145gr tip pretty dang hard. This is the first bow to put an arrow 3" out the back of my target. NO JOKE! My Widow didn't even do that.   :rolleyes:

A very strange thing is happening here.     :saywhat:

Basically what Bjorn said.  The side plate is not cut to center.  I would say it is +1/8-1/4".  You just need an arrow that will flex around the riser.

Miek

shoot it.. :) ...........................bow will last forever........have you ever made a selfbow? you think they are perfect?!.....my best shooting recurve i ever shot  had both ears leaning to the left....tied for first at a little shoot called cloverdale back in 90's. I had the crookest  bow out there. :) ..I can straighten that bow up with a chainsaw file probably..still will shoot exactly the same ...IMO..

TW,
I sent you a couple PM's...
Gene

If it shoots good why change it, I have shot bows without a rest just off my hand why would a thick strike plate make a difference if the thing shoots good?

Just not center cut - most trad handled/riser bows are like this.  Really looks fine.  That is how they are made and why arrows parodox.  

Shoot it and have fun.

Bob Urban

The bow looks perfectly normal to me. The string tracks well. The reason your arrow points off to the side is because the shelf isn't cut past center. All you need to do is find a correctly spined arrow to bend around the bow and fly right where you're looking. Archer's paradox refers to what arrows that point away from the target do such that they actually fly to the target.

Folks, I understand the Archers Paradox and the shelf not being cut to or past center. It just seemed the arrows with this bow were pointed out a little more than any other bow I've shot to date. I did replace the rest, played around with my arrow and got the one mentioned above to fly well. As I stated before, I think a lot of it was due to the unfamiliar thickness of the riser. I've been up shooting it again this morning and my arrows are flying pretty straight.   :thumbsup:

I am going to keep it and shoot the crap out of it stumping this Saturday.   :D   I like the bow as it is a real hard hitter it's just taking a little getting used to.

One thing I am going to do, and that's get the leather grip removed and have the riser refinished. I think this will help with my grip on it. Thanks again for all the input and help. That's why I love this site!   :archer:

QuoteOriginally posted by Bobby Urban:
Just not center cut - most trad handled/riser bows are like this.  Really looks fine.  That is how they are made and why arrows parodox.  

Shoot it and have fun.

Bob Urban

+1

All my bows that aren't cut to center (all I own) are the same way.  Add a big shaft and the point is going to be out to the left on a right-handed bow.

You are just fine.

Josh

tw...i used 4 ot steel wool to take the glue off the limbs of my cari-bow when i took the skins off it.run it under cold water while you gently buff (stay with the grain) the cold water actually will start flaking the glue and turns it a milky color and you can see when its completely gone.dont be afraid to put a little pressure on it also and rotate the wool to keep it fresh.

that looks like a river raisin longbow if so I have one just like it and I thought the same thing.  I kept shooting to the left so I sent it back and asked him to cut some more from the riser which he did