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Title: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Flying Dutchman on May 03, 2010, 11:05:00 AM
Just curious what weights you guys are shooting and with this I mean the ratio in grains/arrow and poundage of your bow in pounds (Grains Per Pounds).

I'll start: I am around 9.5 GGP

SINCE SO MANY ARE ANSWERING, I MADE A POLL FOR THIS QUESTION TOO! THANKS!

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Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Eugene Slagle on May 03, 2010, 11:31:00 AM
My go to bow, my 50* Zona T/D Recurve with my GT Trad Hunter 35/55's @ 445gr. I get 8.9GPP.

My Hoyt Dorado w/ 50* lims is the same but when I use the 40* limbs on it with my GT Entrada 600's 332gr. "indoor & field" I get 8.3GPP

My Sky with the 55* limbs I don't have arrows yet for it but I'm going to shoot for around 9.5+GPP when I set em up
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Tom on May 03, 2010, 11:34:00 AM
54#@29,CE Heritage, 100 gr.insert,125 bh=550 gr.10gr/gpp.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Tim Fishell on May 03, 2010, 11:37:00 AM
I shoot mostly 57# bows with a 540-550 grain arrow so right around 9.5 GPP.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: KentuckyTJ on May 03, 2010, 11:38:00 AM
Easton Trad Only 500 series carbon shafts - 100 grain brass inserts - 100-125 grain points, 485-500 grain arrows = 9.7-10 gpp for me with my 50# bows.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: string bean on May 03, 2010, 11:40:00 AM
right now they are something like 9.6-9.8gpp
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Ricoh on May 03, 2010, 11:41:00 AM
Black Widow MAX 53lbs at 28". Try to set up for 9.5 to 10 gr.

Rick
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Flying Dutchman on May 03, 2010, 11:45:00 AM
I am very suprised to see that American traditional bowhunters are shooting that low weights! I thought you guys were at least around the 12.....
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: JC on May 03, 2010, 11:45:00 AM
59@27 w/660gr = 11.18gpp
63@27 w/700gr = 11.11gpp
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: cbCrow on May 03, 2010, 11:46:00 AM
On my Harrelson longbow its 12.5gpp Kohannah Kurve its 11.5gpp  :archer:
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Dave Lay on May 03, 2010, 11:48:00 AM
widow psaIII recurve 60@28 xx75 2216 @ 9.7gpp

widow PLV longbow    60@28 xx75 2020 @ 9.8 gpp

found that gpp range to work best for me on a huntin arrow, after alot of years messin with it...would bump it up for elk to about 650 gr or about 11gpp if I ever get to go back
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Flying Dutchman on May 03, 2010, 11:50:00 AM
Ok, 11.5 gpp is the heighest bidder......
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: wapiti792 on May 03, 2010, 11:50:00 AM
54 @ 29 inch longbow: Shooting 300 3Rivers trads with a 100 gr insert and 250 grains out front. 705 gr total arrow weight...13gr/inch therabouts.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Ken Taylor on May 03, 2010, 11:53:00 AM
With my 75lb Caribow longbow I'm shooting arrows that are not quite 700 grains. Precisely calculated, it comes out to 9.20 gpp.

They fly great but I have been thinking of cutting my 31 1/2" arrow slightly and going to a heavier broadhead to increase that to 10 gpp to improve the f.o.c.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Dale Sharp on May 03, 2010, 11:57:00 AM
10.4 gpp average.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: COLongbow on May 03, 2010, 12:01:00 PM
Shooting a 515 grain CE arrow out of my new Lost Creek. That puts me at 10.7 gpp. Chrono'd at 182 fps. Really wallops the target!
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Flying Dutchman on May 03, 2010, 12:02:00 PM
Oh,

I should have made a poll of this one!!!
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Eugene Slagle on May 03, 2010, 12:19:00 PM
Dutch, ya should have...  ;)

I get my arrows to where they tune just right & then look at the weight, I tend not to worry about it till my arras get below the 8.0GPP if I'm using it just for target but no less than 8.5GPP for any of my hunting arras.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Doug Treat on May 03, 2010, 12:38:00 PM
I'm shooting 630 gr. arrows from a 40# recurve.  15.75 gpp.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Gil Verwey on May 03, 2010, 12:41:00 PM
I am shooting a 680 grain arrow from a 60# longbow. 11.33 gpp

Gil
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Mack_S on May 03, 2010, 12:50:00 PM
10.31 gpp.

I'm shooting 650 griains +/- out of my Blacktail (60# @ 27) at about 63# with my 28" draw.

-Mack
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: MercilessMing on May 03, 2010, 01:09:00 PM
10.9 gpp.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: LimbLover on May 03, 2010, 01:11:00 PM
Both of my longbows are around 60# at my draw. Shooting a 580g arrow.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: ron w on May 03, 2010, 01:34:00 PM
14.2 for hunting.......12.2 for 3-D and target!
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Richie Nell on May 03, 2010, 02:06:00 PM
71@31
850-950 gr. arrow w/570-650 up front
11.9-13.4 gr./lb.
For 3D, whitetail, hog and elk
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: saltwatertom on May 03, 2010, 02:42:00 PM
Daala- 55+lb pull- 10+ gpi (goldtip 55/75 with 100 gr brass and a Wensel woodsman BH) arrow weight is 550 grn +
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Northwest_Bowhunter on May 03, 2010, 02:51:00 PM
My longbow is 68#@28 inches and I pull it to about 29.5" and I shoot arrows about 575 gr.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Earthdog on May 03, 2010, 02:52:00 PM
50lb with a 535g arrow at the moment,but I also have some 610g arrows that I also use.
Both are based on shafts that are 10gpi but I know know what the gpp is.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: WYOBILL on May 03, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
51@28 R/D longbow = 11 GGP                  58@28 longbow = 10 1/2 GGP
 :cool:
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: tradtusker on May 03, 2010, 04:11:00 PM
65lbs @ 28 1/2"  -- 750gr Arrow

73lbs @ 28 1/2"  -- 920gr Arrow

lots of FOC    :archer:
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Northwest_Bowhunter on May 03, 2010, 04:13:00 PM
I obviously need to get my arrow weight up.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: DesertDude on May 03, 2010, 04:20:00 PM
57# 520gr = 9.1

57# 460gr = 8.0
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: sagebrush on May 03, 2010, 04:27:00 PM
55lb. @28 inch Acs Cx. I draw to 30 so about 60lbs. My arrows weigh 700 grains. So 11.67gpp. Gary
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: SveinD on May 03, 2010, 04:28:00 PM
At the moment I'm using this setup due to my tendonitis..

35@28 - 405gn POC = 12,67 GPP

My setup for when I'm healed up will be:

47@27 - 520gn GoldTip = 11 GPP
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Curveman on May 03, 2010, 04:45:00 PM
545-50gr for my 61-62# bows puts be just under 9.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Night Wing on May 03, 2010, 05:58:00 PM
Just look at my signature below.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Looper on May 03, 2010, 06:09:00 PM
64#@31"
700 grain gt7595 or ad Hammerhead
around 11gpp
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: frassettor on May 03, 2010, 06:10:00 PM
740 gr arrow from Both my Widows= 12.1 - 12.7 GPP

I have a anoth Widow coming that one will be 65#. + or - 2 lbs. So that should end up 11.3 GPP or so.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: mnbearbaiter on May 03, 2010, 06:10:00 PM
55#@28" 640gr Douglas Fir arrows
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: ranger42 on May 03, 2010, 06:48:00 PM
446 gr. arrow at my 47# draw shoots awesome! 9.5 gpp
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: 30coupe on May 03, 2010, 07:09:00 PM
Here are the specs on my go-to outfit: my 46# Kanati. It shoots through everything I hunt. The arrow is a Beman ICS Bowhunter 500 with a Zwickey Delta up front.

FOC   ARROW   length   30
   shaft+feathers+nock wt      245
   separate insert weight?      30
   adapter weight?      100
   point weight      135
   total arrow weight      510
   balance length      22.38
      FOC %   24.60
         
draw wt   46
arrow wt  510
GPP 11.09
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Richie Nell on May 03, 2010, 07:30:00 PM
30coupe,
Looks like a great setup ya got there.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: ishoot4thrills on May 03, 2010, 07:44:00 PM
My specs are in my signature below:
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Brock on May 03, 2010, 07:46:00 PM
10.7-11.9 out of 60lb bow for most part.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: 1/4 away on May 03, 2010, 07:51:00 PM
52# recurve 575gr = 11.06
54# longbow 575gr = 10.6

Trad Only 400's w/ standard insert, 100gr BH adapter and 160gr heads
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: K. Mogensen on May 03, 2010, 08:17:00 PM
10.6 GPP. 2018's cut to 29 in., 20 gr. insert, 170 gr. tip. ~52/53# Savannah at my draw.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: CDR on May 03, 2010, 08:33:00 PM
52# Silvertip Axis nano 533 grains= 10.25 gpi
57# Silvertip Axis nano 513 grains= 9 gpi
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: shortstroke 91 on May 03, 2010, 08:42:00 PM
#45 @ 30" with a full length 35/55 and a 250 head for 545 grains. 12.1 gpp
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: hybridbow hunter on May 04, 2010, 03:19:00 AM
670 gr for my 60# Cari bow Peregrine: 11.15 gpp.
I switched (over kill) from 840 gr (13.1 gpp) to 720 gr for my 64# Fedora Xtreme: 11.25 GPP.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: ozy clint on May 04, 2010, 04:27:00 AM
54#28"  620gr
69#@28" 780gr and (890gr water buffalo arrows)
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: 30coupe on May 04, 2010, 10:07:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Richie Nell:
30coupe,
Looks like a great setup ya got there.
The only downside to this setup is the arrows go through so quickly I'm sometimes not sure if it was a hit until I go look at the bloody arrow! That Kanati puts a lot of zip on a pretty heavy arrow.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Jwilliam on May 04, 2010, 10:20:00 PM
Zipper SXT 51@28", Beman Classic 400's with 100gr brass inserts,150gr. broadheads.

Total arrow weight 570gr.= 11.2gpp


Bill
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Night Wing on May 05, 2010, 11:35:00 PM
I did a little experimentation this afternoon with my 42# Blacktail recurve. I lowered the brace by 1/8" to 7 1/2" from 7 5/8". This allowed me to increase my point weight from 155 grains to 185 grains. It also increased my GPP from 11.85 grains per pound to 12.57 grains per pound.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Rackman on May 06, 2010, 04:51:00 PM
Black Widow PSA Ironwood 55#@28, 2018's 535 grains, shooting about 11 GPP
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Gunnar Mullins on May 06, 2010, 04:56:00 PM
Im shooting around 11 gr/p
this is with my 50# recurves.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Roconman on May 07, 2010, 09:14:00 AM
10gpp out of a 50# recurve
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Over&Under on May 07, 2010, 09:54:00 AM
I am right at 10 gpp with my setups.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: RC on May 07, 2010, 10:33:00 AM
53@27 Hill Bow. 11.5 grains per pound.RC
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Night Wing on May 07, 2010, 12:32:00 PM
More tweaking on my part with my 42# bow. Lowered the brace to 7 3/8" which lowered my point weight and changed my GPP.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: MarkE2006 on May 07, 2010, 12:42:00 PM
No less than 10 gpp and as much as 12.25 gpp.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: FrankM on May 07, 2010, 04:46:00 PM
I upped my 5575 points from 145 to 175. See my sig. Still testing.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Tom-Wisconsin on May 13, 2010, 02:36:00 AM
Gt Expedition Hunters 3555 7.4 gpi 30"
100 gr brass inserts
125 broadhead adapters
200 grizzly bh   :archer:
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Hoyt on May 13, 2010, 05:35:00 AM
I average 10.5.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: recurvecody on May 13, 2010, 10:13:00 AM
excuse my ignorance but what does ggp stand for and how do i figure what mine is?
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Orion on May 13, 2010, 10:27:00 AM
Grains of arrow weight per pounds of bow weight.  Divide your bow's weight at your draw into the weight of the arrow =gpp.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Orion on May 13, 2010, 10:29:00 AM
10-12 gpp cedars out of my 52# and 56# ACSs.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: on May 13, 2010, 12:11:00 PM
Out of curiosity, I weighed a bloody shaft that I shot through a large buck.  Only 446 grains and that is with a 160 grain broadhead on it.  I wonder now how much lighter it would be if I cleaned it. My new set of cedars are about the same.  To be honest, I wish they were heavier than that. It puts  me at about 9 gpp.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Ethan Grotheer on May 13, 2010, 12:24:00 PM
I average 9.5-10 on my intended missouri game arrows. My elk set-ups are 11-12 gpi. All from 55#ish bows.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Flying Dutchman on May 13, 2010, 01:21:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by recurvecody:
excuse my ignorance but what does ggp stand for and how do i figure what mine is?
ggp is a typo and should be gpp what stands for grains per pound.
So suppose you have a 50# bow and you shoot arrows of 500 grains, your gpp would be 500/50=10
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: recurvecody on May 13, 2010, 02:56:00 PM
aaahhh. now i see said the blind man,thats for explaining it to me.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: recurvecody on May 13, 2010, 03:00:00 PM
so i'm shooting a 55# recurve what gpp should i be shooting or is it somthing that is personal prefrence?
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Flying Dutchman on May 13, 2010, 04:10:00 PM
Haha,

that's the question! I suppose you have some arrows you are shooting with? Weigh them, diveide the weight trough the lbs of your bow and put your answer in the poll....
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: recurvecody on May 13, 2010, 04:25:00 PM
i sure will my problem has been out past 20 yards i get irratic arrow flight.i wonder if my gpp if it is off would that cause my problem?
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Flying Dutchman on May 13, 2010, 04:31:00 PM
Irratic arrowflight may have many causes. It may be your form, wrong spine, not a straight shaft and so one.
The last thing that can cause it is your gpp. A high gpp (more then 12) results in a slower flight. A low gpp (under the 9) can shorten the lifetime of your bow.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: recurvecody on May 13, 2010, 04:43:00 PM
when you say shorten lifetime of your bow,how would that cause it to brake?im not sure i understand that part.i have called easton and they say the arrows are spined right
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: Flying Dutchman on May 13, 2010, 04:48:00 PM
Cody,
when you have an empty shot (shooting a bow without an arrow) you have a fair chance to break your bow.
From this point of view, it isn't difficult to understand that, when your arrows are very light, you are getting in closer to an empty shot.
Therefore, most bowyer advise to go not lower then 8 gpp. However, 9 tot 10 gpp would be wiser.
You can also try Stu Miller:  http://heilakka.com/stumiller/
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: recurvecody on May 13, 2010, 04:55:00 PM
oh,okay now i understand why that would matter,thank you for explaining that to me. im still very new to traditional archery.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: SpencerL on May 13, 2010, 10:22:00 PM
9 gpp with a 45# bow.
Title: Re: What weight are you shooting?
Post by: vernon on May 14, 2010, 12:44:00 PM
go to bow is 53# @28.  Shoot axis carbon, 100 grain insert, and 150BH.  I've used this bow for everything from elk, deer, antelope, and turkey.  Not afraid to tackle moose or bison with it either.