I've been doing DIY Elk for 15-16 years so I know what a DIY camp/hunt is all about. What are my location options for a do-it-yourself Moose hunt without spending 10 years on a waiting list? Are there any places left where I can get an OTC license and not need a guide? Not that I am dead set against a guide or an outfitted camp but from my admittedly brief search it looks like the minimum I am going to spend is around $5K.
I believe Ontario has some pretty reasonable options for semi-guided - basically established camp w/ a camp helper who can point you in the right direction. You could do that without much additional expense considering your proximity
Other than that, It's luck of the draw, or trying to do DIY in AK - which will probably run you in the $5K range once you factor in airfare, bush flights, and gear rental. . .
Northern Quebec is OTC...or so legend has it.
AK can't be DIY because non res have to be guided I believe.
I think Txnrog has it summed up pretty well Pete. I haven't done either of them, but have researched the possiblities. The Ontario option is good in that you wouldn't need to worry about all the camp stuff in most cases. Moose hunting up there any place that you can drive to is iffy since any moose within reasonable distance of a road gets hammered. Flying in to a fishing camp that offers moose hunts as a side line is pretty reasonable.
Alaska would be an incredible trip, but is a logistical challenge, not only for all the gear you would need but for dealing with the meat if you do put a bull down. But it certainly can be done with good planning. There are quite a few operators that offer drop camp type hunts with the camp and sometimes even food provided as part of the package. Like anything, you pretty much get what you pay for, and the cheapest option is usually not the best. Lots of research and references will go a long way toward a good trip.
vtmtnman, the last I knew, AK was OK self guided for moose. Guides are required for sheep, goats, and grizzlies I believe.
Unless they changed it in the last couple of years Alaska does NOT require a guide for hunting moose (or caribou) for nonresidents, but it does for the big bears, sheep, goat, etc...
Travis
by the way Idaho has some pretty reasonable areas to draw a moose tag (as far as odds go, but they are pricey for a nonresident if they draw, a little over a thousand dollars)
Thanks Guys,
I'm just getting started in my quest for knowledge/research so any and all suggestions will be looked at. I agree Joe, though Alaska would be an incredible trip, the logistics of the place are daunting. I have been looking at the Maritimes also though I'm not sure yet if a guide is required. From what I understand New Brunswick has a very high moose population.
Im not sure but I think for non-residents in Canada you need a Guide for all big game, again not certain.
I do know that you could do a self guided hunt in Alaska for a lot less then has been mentioned. I would think for 5-6 grand you could easly do a moose hunt. Thats including everything, except taxidermy. m2c
Gilbert
I believe Canada does require a guide, or rather, your license to be purchased thru an outfitter. . . the term 'guide' is fairly loosely interpreted.
I have looked into New Foundland significantly - sounds like you can do that for the $3500 range + travel. BUT if you want to get back into areas that hold larger moose, you're looking at the $5-6K range.
House, Idaho is now a little over $2K for a tag + you have to buy a non-refundable $140 license just to put your name in the hat. Moose is high on my list, and I'm in the apps for CO,WY,& ID. . . considering how much the tag fees add up to, it makes something like Ontario or Alberta very attractive. . .
I have some friends in Alaska (Game & Fish). They tell me moose is one of the most expensive things to hunt in AK because of the multiple, expensive trips to fly out gear and game. There are some very accessible moose hunts on the miltary areas in AK but you have to draw. I was in Maine a couple years ago training some folks. They took me for a drive one evening and we saw several moose from the roads and very close! Pretty much all of Canada's hunting for us "aliens" requires a guilde these days. I'll be making some excellent contacts in New Brunswick this July. I'd like for those to turn into a bowhunt for moose.
QuoteOriginally posted by Whip:
vtmtnman, the last I knew, AK was OK self guided for moose. Guides are required for sheep, goats, and grizzlies I believe.
Gotcha. :thumbsup:
Have a guy at work that was living up there for bit tell me if you're a non res you have to guided.Didn't know it didn't apply to moose.My bad.
I beleive in Quebec you have to use one or more "services" of an outfitter. This past fall I hunted moose in Quebec and stayed at the outfitters lodge . The hunting was all on your own but he helped get the moose out. In Quebec it's two hunters per moose.
I can help you with the Alaska regs, as I live in Alaska. A nonresident does not need a guide to hunt Moose in Alaska (only for Brown Bears, Goats and Sheep). Most of the good hunting areas close to the bigger cities or easily accessable from the road system are on a draw permit.
You can hunt anywhere that is listed as "registration" without winning a draw permit. But, since you are not familiar with Alaska, I would suggest either a guide or a hunting lodge that would do a drop in hunt.
Another really good option is a drop off raft trip. You hook up with an outfitter and they fly you to a drop point and your raft down a river. He then picks you up down stream in "X" days. If you shoot a Moose you can float it down stream in the raft (with lots of hard work in the shallow spots!!)
The big expense is the amount of plane rides it takes to get all of the meat out. So, if you hunt in a remote region, you have a much better chance of success, but will pay more money. If you do a self guided off the road system, it will cost you way less but your success rate goes way down.
Hope this helps.....AkBillyBow
Mr. McMiller,
In addition to the information Mr. AkBillyBow provided, you will have the added cost of freezing and shipping the meat to your home. May be a consideration with the state of today's airfares and baggage.
Best Wishes
Here is a link that you might find helpful.
http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/showthread.php?t=42184
Not much to add except to say that an Alaskan DIY hunt is not daunting in the least. It requires lots of planning and the use of a good Air Taxi operator. The all-in cost of a DIY hunt of extraordinary quality (the same hunt that people being guided pay $10-$15K for) can be had as mentioned above for $5K. And remember - the big dollars above are just for the guide fee. They don't include all of the ancillary costs of getting to and from Alaska, logistics, etc. The true comparison is more like $13-$18K versus $5K.
You can always donate a few hundred pounds of the meat to any number of local charities in Alaska, thereby reducing the amount you have to fly back.
From 2009
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John & the other AK guys basically summed it up for moose hunting Alaska. No guide rquired, biggest cost is for logistics, lots of otc tags available, meat care can be a pain if not prepared.
Hey John H.- Are you hunting out of Tok this fall? If so let me know and may be we can meet up if I'm not already in the hills. I think Mike was and I assume you guys are going together??
John,
Yep John, Jason and I are headed back up to Tok this fall. Hope we don't have the flu this time so we can be better company. LOL
Mike
As others have said, you don't need a guide, however, some of the better areas require a drawing tag for a non resident.
You can pull a western cow moose tag with no points as a none res. in most states.
John/Alaska
Hey John, just got back to this post and saw your question. Yes, I'll be back in Tok this September along with Mike and Jason. We'll be eating dinner at Fast Eddies on the evening of the 5th. Hope to see you there.
And, I should add one other note to my above post: a DIY moose hunt in Alaska isn't daunting given the context of Mr. McMiller's original post in which he said he'd been doing DIY hunts for elk for quite a few years. That tells me he already has top-notch gear such as summit-quality tents and sleeping bags and spotting scopes and binoculars. Assuming all of that "stuff" is already in your gear closet then all you need is a bit of planning and a good Air Taxi operator.
Mike & John - I'll look for you on the 5th. I won't be going in to my place until late the next day if'n I don't drop one in the early season of late Aug. Yeah and no flu this time!
I should note that F&G is changing the 40 Mile caribou season to later for the area that you are going in to I believe and there could be an overlap. Restrictions will apply meaning a hunter can not have both a moose tag & caribou tag at the same time. But you might ask when you get here if its still open. New regs won't be posted until after the end of June.
Just to be clear about the certification situation. You do need to be certified if you are hunting a weapons specific hunt, such as a registration hunts that don't require you to draw. Or as most guys up here know about, the haul road within the 5 mile corridor, or Eklutna bowhunts.
John/AK,
Keep us posted on the caribou thing. We are planning on either Jason or myself getting a bou' tag instead of a moose. That way we can go after both species. And I know we don't want to kill three moose. LOL
Mike