Trad Gang

Bentpole was so very nice to me and sent me a bow to shoot. It is his Mohawk 62" and 52@28 inches.

No, it's not for sale or trade he was just sharing with me what he thinks of as one of the best shooting bows out there. I  can find very little reason to disagree with him or anyone who believes the same.

I knew I had to finish mowing the grass this morning as rain was on its way but I found out that I had a bow at the P.O. so I delayed mowing until I could go pick up the bow.

I got it home and strung up(more delay) and couldn't resist shooting it. I selected 3 arrows that were matched and shot three ends of three arrows each. One at around 10 yds, one at around 17 yds and one at around 28 yds.

I decided that the 1st 3 arrows were really good  but I told myself "I'm awfully close to the target" then I shot the second end, then after getting the same results at that yardage I moved back to my last yardage. Here are the results and they look almost identical to the other two ends.

God bless,Mudd
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PS Thank you very much Tom! I take good care of her and send her home when I'm finished playing.

BTW: I ended up getting a little wet and cold which doesn't help a sinus infection but the grass is cut!..lol

Got a feeling you can do that with all your bows, but your right it shoots straight.

I would say that the shooter also has something to do with that group.   :thumbsup:  


Gilbert

Roy, I'm Glad you like it!    :wavey:    Looks like she shoots the same after the Post Office sent to her  you.     :thumbsup:    God Bless and enjoy her! Just make sure I get back some time.    :laughing:

Nice shootin Mudd! Spend a lot of money on new nocks do ya??  :)

Yep, those Mohawks are nice shooting bows. I've shot a number of them at RMSGear in Denver. Vince is a Colorado Bowyer. The ones I've shot have had full bamboo limbs and have a real nice feel to them.

Mudd, if you don't have one in your stable, is it time?

ColLongbow, I can't say I disagree with you but I need to be patient and save some pennies up before that can happen.

As soon as the rain quits I'm going back out with it and drill a few more holes. The way it shoots I may be back in the house doing nock repair work.. man! I hate building arrows!!

God bless,Mudd

Nice shooting Mudd!!  :thumbsup:

Nice shooting Mudd.I recently purchased a new Mohawk and it has quickly become my go to bow.

Nice shooting Mudd!

great shootin' mudd!  gotta love the 'hawks - i know i do!  :D

Roy can you show the Good Folks what bow your shooting?   :saywhat:

That is fine shooting!

:thumbsup:  Great shooting Mudd...i agree with bentpole.  Show us a picture of the Mohawk if you have one.  Thanks!

Mudd, good shooting for sure.I will be in your neck of the woods this week for work. Flint

If I were Bentpole I'd be worried about getting my bow back anytime soon.

John

:laughing:  No worries here Outwest!  

Mudd, I'm going to be honest right up front.
I don't have a bow that will shoot those groups from the 10 yard spot. Not with me in the drivers seat. Very nice shooting.
You've just encoraged me to start working harder on my form.

Great shooting.  I have never shot one.  How does it compare to your MOAB?  That would give me some reference.

Very similar in feel and point-ability. I might feel the bow a tad more than the MOAB but not enough to even speak of.

Later this evening I went back out and shot it for about an hour. It's easy to shoot.

It made me real curious so I took it in and got out the 62" 54@28 MOAB and one arrow,...
my turkey arrow....
I wouldn't want to be the turkey...lol

If I can get close enough Monday morning I should have something to show for my effort.

I'll try to get my wife to get some pictures of the Mohawk being shot tomorrow.

God bless,Mudd

Shootin' groups like that is getting into the spirit world,MUST be the Hat! I've heard so much lately about Mohawks.HMMM.

mohawks are great bows!   :D   Happy shooting mudd!

My buddy Bentpole is good one.   :thumbsup:  

Enoy Mudd...

Thanks Gator!   :wavey:   I try to help Good Folks out.   :thumbsup:

Good shootin'!  Mohawk bows are indeed great bows, Vince built a beauty for me last summer and now I have another on order.  Love 'em.  Eric.

My buddy Cobweb came over today and we gave the Mohawk and a few other bows a good workout today.

Here she is doing what she does best.

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:wavey:

i have a custom moab, and more than a few mohawks.

they are very different bows.

the moab is an aggressive r/d hybrid longbow that's closer to a recurve in terms of feel and performance, and the braced bow limbs are not "D" shaped (as expected).  they are FAST.

mohawks are mild r/d longbows with that classic braced "D" limb shape.  not as fast as a moab, but imo they are more stable and offer good "pointability".

just took receipt of the first 'official' mohawk classic today ... review with pics tomorrow.

Rob, I know there's real different in the way they look both strung and unstrung but Kenny and I switched back and forth between the two bows for the majority of the afternoon.
The MOAB is 62' 54@28, the Mohawk is 62" 52@28. I found arrow speed to be about the same. Both pulled smoothly. I might have felt the MOAB a little more in the hand upon release but not hardly a noticeable difference. Neither bow felt like a recurve. Both hit right where we were pointing.
Kenny and I were in agreement that there wasn't enough difference in performance or "feel" to make us either pick one over the other as superior.

That's my experience and now opinion(limited to two days) with the Mohawk.

I would encourage anyone who was trying to decide on either of these bows or any bow for that matter.. to if at all possible shoot one 1st before making a major investment.

God bless,Mudd

PS Rob please forgive my difference of opinion. I mean no disrespect or offense.

What can I say, I love my Mohawk & Vince is GOOD People, Also, Good on you Rob for sending Vince that Digital Bow Scale !!

hey mudd, good to hear your take on both bows, thanx for sharing!  

that's what's best about trad gang - we can all share our perhaps differing thoughts and opinions on stuff and not take it personal or get into a squabble or escalate to something worse.  

gotta love the gang!   :thumbsup:

fwiw, my moab is 1pc, 60", 52.5# @ 29", as compared to my 2pc, 62", 55.1# @ 29" mohawk.  

to me, these bows are like night and day, with the moab like a little hot rod speedster firecracker that's not at all so forgiving ... and the mohawk like a solid, stable, very forgiving oak tree.  

arrows used for my comparing are 29.5" beman 500, 4" 4-fletch offset banana fletching, with a total weight of 535gr for the moab and 570gr for the mohawk - mass differences achieved solely by changing the upfront weight, foc varied from 25.2% to 27.6%

hey mudd, what happened to yer photobucket images???

"hey mudd, what happened to yer photobucket images???"

My guess would be.. stupidity has struck... again!

I was bored last evening so I found something to do rather than work on fixing arrows. I decided to clean up old photos on the camera and all of our photo accounts. I went through both and delete a ton of old photos.

What was I thinking? I didn't realize that removing them from my albums would affect pictures posted on any webpages.

Oh well... it's a was now! I guess it's just like my dad always said "There ain't no point in being ignorant iffen you don't show it!"

I apologize for the mistake, it won't happen again. I'm sorry, please forgive me.

God bless,Mudd

PS Dang it! This is only April and this blunder makes at least two mistakes already this year. My wife only allows me 3. I'd better start watching my P's and Q's.........lol

ooooo, bummer when that happens - don't feel bad, i've definitely done that a few times myself!!!  no worries, sir!

Roy, if you make The Mrs. a batch of blueberry pancakes with sausage do you think she'll repost them for you?     :wavey:  I hope you didn't delete them from your photobucket account???   :pray:

Miracles do happen!!!!!!!!!! It only took me an hour or so to find these on my computer and restore them to photobucket.

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God bless,Mudd

yea mudd man!  :thumbsup:

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Nice shootin there fellas!!

I wonder how long I'll have to wait for one of the new classics in my weight and length to show up in the classifieds so I can trade for one.Since I've never had much luck getting a bowyer to trade bows with me...lol

Rob has number "1" and I want one just like it but with a straight grip.

I guess it doesn't hurt to want...  now that's not exactly the truth now is it?...lol

Mr. Mohawk,(Vince) I am impressed with your bow that Tom so graciously has allowed me to shoot. I know he has to be one heck of a guy because he's never met me and he voluntarily sent me his Mohawk to try. I was thinking that he's a believer and now the bow has made me one too.

God bless,Mudd

mudd, why not save yer pennies, put an order in, and get exactly what you want?

Hahaha!! Great idea Rob but my name is

Roy L "Mudd" Williams, my mother said she intended for part of my name to be "Patience" but my dad wanted Leroy in there.. I thank God routinely that the mid-wife who delivered me couldn't spell Leroy so She just put an "L" there and called it good enough.

I guess it could be different if they would just start taking payments from me and ship me the bow once it was paid for. Then they could schedule its' "build" so it would finish up about the time the last payment came in. Always thinking!...lol

God bless,Mudd

roy, the 'they' in mohawk bows is vince.  period.  if you could pony up the deposit in order to get on the build queue, you'd have more than a fair amount of time for when the remainder is due.  i dunno what the current build time is, but my guess - and it's a guess - is 2 months or more.  check with vince.

real good shooting Mudd!!  :archer2:

Hey MUDD, is that a pigeon pen in the backround? Looks like mine but mine has homers in it.

It used to be a pigeon loft. I got tired of feeding coons, hawks and cats so I got rid of my homers.

Good eye for detail..lol

God bless,Mudd

Hey Mudd, give me a call and we can talk bows, something will work out I'm sure.

Oh don't worry Vince I'll be in touch pretty soon after looking at Robs' baby.

Thank you!
God bless,Mudd

I tried too late last night to call Bentpole after a brainstorm. I realized if I got his permission the Mohawk could go turkey hunting with me this morning.

I called him last night and I guess with the time difference it was too late for him but I left a message asking his blessing. I haven't heard anything back as yet and I have to take off so I'll have to leave the Mohawk at the house... Too bad!

Wish me blessing!

God bless,Mudd

That Vince is a good egg...

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Good to talk to you this am Roy!    :archer2:  NOW GO WACK A GOBBLER!

Pigeon lofts? This city boy thought it was a ladies and gents outhouse!

Well, you wack a turkey with my bow yet Roy?   :wavey:    :campfire:    :archer:    :archer2:

Hey Bentpole, don't worry the last I heard he did find it after it flew out of the back of the truck and he threw it in his aluminum boat to shoot some carp.

I've been dealing with Vince for a "few" years now, He & his "significant" other are GOOD PEOPLE !! I knew Vince had something with the "first" L/B of his I received, don't want to tell ya how many I've had !! through my "Bowaholicsness" but I can tell ya this Osage & Boo Mohawk I have is a Thumper !! & Vince nailed the grip to a tee, Now Im thinkin a 68'' Classic would look real GOOD next to "Ole Yeller" Thanks Vince & keep making those chips !!!

I guess I'll let the cat out of the bag. I will be getting a Mohawk Classic #2 right behind Rob.

Vince and I talked and he said he was wanting to build one with a dark wood riser to see how it went with the black glass. I told him to do whatever he thought best.

Now if I could remember the name of the wood we discussed I'd tell you. But I can tell you it will be 68" about 46@28 with a straight grip.

He said it would be awhile but he might be able to make it a little faster since it was one he wanted to make..yeha!! I'll try to use someone elses' patience since I have very little and tell myself "It'll get here when it gets here!"

This will be hopefully my last custom bow. I mean enough is enough already...lol Maybe I can make that my mantra from now on...hahaha!

God bless,Mudd

Mudd,

I ordered a classic last Jan. to be built for my B-day in July. It's going to have a Myrtle riser and a Hill dished grip, Black glass on back of limbs and White glass on the belly.

When I approached Vince with the idea of a Mohawk Classic he liked the idea. I always liked D-shaped bows so Vince's design with a Hill straight or dished grip will be a great combination. It looks like everyone will get their bow before me. I seen Rob's and it really was done well.

Best of luck,
Darren

The wood we talked about was cocobolo. Darren I hope you get yours soon. I can give up number 2 and take number 3 if it'll help. My birthday isn't until November....lol I bet you have yours in time for your birthday.

God bless,Mudd

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Hey Mudd-

I'm just excited about getting another bow. With this design a lot of the Hill enthusists like myself will definately like the added cast combined with the classic look.

Darren

QuoteOriginally posted by tradlongbow:
... Hill enthusists like myself will definately like the added cast combined with the classic look.

adding to the increased cast and good looks is the smoothness of draw and shock free release.  :thumbsup:

Maybe I could think about raising my draw weight a couple of lbs. I ask for 46@28. What do you think Rob?

God bless,Mudd

:confused:

If I understood the answer.. I need to be honest with myself about how much I can draw and comfortably hold during hunting situations.

I'll need to figure this one out. Any suggestions on the "How to"?

God bless,Mudd

QuoteOriginally posted by Mudd:
... I'll need to figure this one out. Any suggestions on the "How to"? ...

get up at 4am on a hopefully freezing morning, dress and get yer gear together, brace up the bow, trudge outside into the cold and do some make believe hunting on the ground and up a tree stand... no cheating, come to full draw, hold a second, and make all good shots.  :laughing:

each of us needs to answer the question of how much holding weight we can master under realistic field conditions.  for me, at my age and abilities, 55# is nice 'n' comfy with a mohawk.