I am thinking about buying a new longbow but i dont know if i should get the Black Widow PL X Exotic cocobolo or the Tomahawk T/D diamond SS. has anyone shot both of these bows?
I think you need to pose your question in a different manner. Like: What are the characteristics that someone likes of bow "XX"? Based on those, YOU can then SHOOT those bows, and see if YOU agree. Silly to ask someone what you should buy....
Sorry, just tired of the what is "the best", or what should I buy threads......
there are no Cliff Notes to Traditonal Archery
Buy a Black widow with olive ash limbs, in the 50-55#@28", take down. If you don't like it I'll take it off your hands for half price.
"Has anyone shot both of these bows"
Why don't we try answering the question. Is it really a hassle?
I have not shot either. Both have good reputations.
I think that both of these bows you can try before you buy. I would take advantage of that.
If you aren't going to be able to shoot them both and then decide, i would just go ahead and buy them both! If you don't, you will always wonder if the other one was better! Just kidding, sort of. i would definitely go the "try before you buy" route. As stated above, both companies do offer a "try before you buy" program. Good luck in your decision! :)
I have three Widows and it would take a gun pointed at me to get rid of them. Widows are made extremely well, craftsmanship is A+. I have never heard of anyone with a BW having quality control issues. I used to own 3 longbows from a premier Bowyer, claims "Shoot the Best". Between limb variance, riser/limb fit and limb edge consistency problems limb twist. BW is far and above a better bow.
I have shot both, Black widow by far the better shooting bow to me, but may not be for you. I'd try to shoot both before I bought one. Does this answer the question.
it does not answer my ? but it helps. if anyone owns the black widow custom it would be great if you could post some pictures so i can see which would i want to get
QuoteOriginally posted by aussieman8:
it does not answer my ? but it helps. if anyone owns the black widow custom it would be great if you could post some pictures so i can see which would i want to get
Here you go..
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Osage on the left, and Tulipwood on the right
those are some nice bows!
I had the one piece Tomahawk Diamond SS.I had problems with it.I would like to try a Black Widow PL model someday.I`ve been looking at them in the catalog.I`m shooting a Black Widow MA III,and realy like it.Try them both out,like what was said above.Not everyone is a Widow guy and not everyone is a Tomahawk guy.Shoot what feels right in YOUR hand.
I shot a tomahawk about 5 years ago at denton. It seemed like alot of handshock to me. Loved the looks of it but it didnt shoot half as good for me. Never shot a widow longbow
I shot a guys Tomahawk takedown at the tannehill shoot and i really didn't care for it at all.
I have also shot the Widow's and i don't think you will find a better bow.
Well, I have a Tomahawk Diamond T/D Thunderstorm and a Diamond T/D SS. I have been shooting them for around 3 years now. They are the smoothest I have shot so far .... and I am very happy with them ... but then I have not tried a lot of high end bows and never shot a Black Widow. So it is hard to compare for me ....
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People can post there opinions all day long but until you shoot both you will never know which bow fits you the best, period.
I've shot both and I like the Widow better but they were different weights so I wasn't really controlling for all the variables. I wouldn't trade two of either though for my Border Griffon GL. :)
I have owned three 66" PLX's and have tested the 3R's bows at their store. The PLX's have a much smoother draw in my opinion and have little to no hand shock. If you want quiet, fast and no hand shock, you may want to take a look see at the Leon Stewart longbows. Incredible bows and an amazing grip. Beautiful craftsmanship. Stewart Archery has a new web site.
I've shot both, as I've owned a couple of Black Widow PLs, and my mate owns a Tomahawk. Neither is going to give you a shooting or dead animal advantage. Both are superb. The Black Widow gives you a few more custom options (at greater cost), but that's about the only real difference. The Black Widow is also cut to centre, whereas the Tomahawk is not quite. To me, that makes no difference with the right arrows. So, my advice is to go with the one you like the looks / options of, depending on your finances.
Since both Widow and 3 Rivers allow you to try their bows then you definitely should do that. Some people swear by the Widow...I shot both side by side on the same day...the Widow was a major disappointment to me... The Tomahawk was superb.
The Widow was not as smooth to draw despite being lighter and it shocked noticeably.
The Tomahawk was smooth, fast and quiet so I that's what I bought.
You will get many different opinions on these bows but only yours matters so try them both out...good luck!
aussieman8, Blacky Schwartz has done performance tests on both the PL and the Tomahawk longbows. Go to the addresses shown below and you can compare the force draw curves and arrow velocities of the two bows. I shoot the Widow PL, but I have no doubt the 3Rivers Tomahawk is also a fine bow. Clint
www.bowreports.com/longbows/bw-plx/plx.htm (http://www.bowreports.com/longbows/bw-plx/plx.htm)
www.tomahawkbows.com/BowReports.asp (http://www.tomahawkbows.com/BowReports.asp)
i know and i will "test drive" both of these bows to see which one is right for me.
could someone please post a pic of the black widow cocobolo
Try the search function. H
I've never owned the T-hawk but have seen 3 of them at bow shoots. All 3 owners were not very happy with them. And I was not really impressed with the looks of the bows. Would have tried them out but I'm a lefty.
I would suggest you do a try before you buy from BW.
I bought about 15 bows from the classified and resold them for what I paid before I figured out what I liked. Then I had them custom made exactly the way I wanted them. Now I have 2 bows that I absolutely love! :archer:
who made your bows?
aussieman,
I'm afraid I will be no help to you, I own one of each and love both of them
My Widow is a PLV, 64" and 47lbs at my draw.
My Tomahawk isn't the SS, it is the Diamond Series Desert Fox. 64" and 53lbs at my draw.
I haven't had any experience with hand shock at all with t-hawk, and it is fast!
It was easier to quiet down than my Widow, not that the Widow was hard or very loud, just took more "tweaking" than the t-hawk.
Try them both, when I bought my T-hawk, I tried two of the same bow and the grips were different on both, I chose the one that I liked the best.
John
Do you like blondes or brunettes?
I have shot the Tomahawk and it is very smooth and hard hitting. Me and my friends have only been shooting for a year total, less of that is Trad, but my mate got a Tomahawk a month and a half ago. He has done 2 Robin Hoods, cut off feathers and damaged nocks.. So I know that it is a fine bow! (He does practice a lot, bows are not magical^^)
More importantly, as mentioned, both companies have the "Try a Bow" program, and if you pay shipping both ways you can try one of their bows for a week. Since you are in the US it will probably be cheap shipping, and you will then know for sure which one to get! That is something to take advantage off!
My opinion is, both are great! You will be happy either way ;) I like redheads and got a Toelke :p
I have not shot a Tomahawk but I have owned a bow with that type t/d system and I do like the locket socket t/d system that B.W. uses a lot better.
does black widow still offer the test drive? thats one way to try that bow out.