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Title: four feather fletching
Post by: aussieman8 on April 08, 2010, 12:12:00 AM
does anyone shoot arrows with four feather fletching, what length of feathers should i use and what shape works best
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on April 08, 2010, 12:29:00 AM
I use 4" feather with a 5.5" high back nana chopper. Length and shape is all on the shooter.
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: Soilarch on April 08, 2010, 12:33:00 AM
Use the "search" button...try something like [four fletch]    You'll have plenty of reading.

After pages and pages and pages of reading it comes out to be just like 3 fletch...it's all a matter of personal preference.
The short version is:

-Yes, several guys like 'em
-Any length you want (You can use shorter feathers than you do with 3 fletch...if you want to)
-Any shape you want.
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: tradtusker on April 08, 2010, 02:14:00 AM
Ya Im sold on Four fletch.
I find better arrow flight, i dont have to think about nocking the arrow, and the increased color at the back of the arrow makes it easier to see exactly where iv hit the animal. Works for me anyways.

I used 4x4" and sometimes 4x3" always with a bit of Helical

Shape is up to you but i find parabolic to be the quietest or a low profile cut banana
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: Ragnarok Forge on April 08, 2010, 10:41:00 AM
I switched over to four fletch and prefer the shield cuts.  I just like the old style look of the shield cut fletch on my arrows.  They are a bit noiser than parabolics or bannana's.  Going to shorter fletch fixed that though.  4-3" shield cuts make no noise at all that I can hear.  

I did some measuring and number crunching 6 months ago, and found that 4-4" fletch have the same surface area as 3-5" fletch.  4-3" fletch are very close in surface area to 3-4" fletch.  I have dropped to 4-3" for my carbons and 4-4" fletch for my wood arrows. They work great and broadheads fly the same as field points with properly tuned arrows.  The lower profile and shorter lengths also seem to produce less drag on heavy cross wind shots.

I like that the surface area of the fletch is further back on the arrow.  The further you put the fletch back on the arrow the better control the have on arrow flight.
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: aussieman8 on April 08, 2010, 11:07:00 AM
Thanks to all of you i now know what fletching i am going to use: four 3 inch shield cut.
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: JoeArizona on April 08, 2010, 11:36:00 AM
I'm just getting back into archery, so I wanted to do a little testing also.
I fletched up 6 carbon arrows with 4" parabolic...3 with 3 fletch and 3 with 4 fletch.  I think it may be my form but...some days I like the 3 fletch and other days I love the 4 fletch.  
It does seem that when my form is good, the 3 fletch is just a bit faster.  When it's not good, the 4 fletch is a little more forgiving.
I have not shot either with broadheads yet.  I'm shooting 45# at 28".
Just my experience so far...hope it helps.
Joe
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: aussieman8 on April 08, 2010, 12:48:00 PM
if you used three inch the arrow might fly faster
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: Ground Hunter on April 08, 2010, 12:58:00 PM
Tradtusker nailed it.  H
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: JoeArizona on April 08, 2010, 10:41:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by aussieman8:
if you used three inch the arrow might fly faster
Amen brother!

Just think how fast that 2 or 1 inch fletching would be!  :laughing:  

Joe
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: JMartin on April 08, 2010, 11:33:00 PM
Yep....what tradtusker said.
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: Rob DiStefano on April 09, 2010, 05:46:00 AM
don't get locked into a specific fletch size without some good testing.  

you want a good compromise of solid steerage with lowest drag.  of the two, steerage is most important.  

small feathers don't steer worth a hoot.  

there are  many factors that will point your shooting and your bow(s) in the better direction of fletch size than just surmising what you *think* will work best for *you*.  

feathers have height as well as length, and it's the sum of the surface area that counts most.  

if your arrows fly well sans any steerage, don't be lulled into thinking that smaller feathers are the way to go.  

consider the distance that you typically shoot at game.  bigger feathers will also help with a bad release, and plan that you *will* have a bad release at least sometimes.  arrows that straighten out quickest and fly truest will always yield the better results.

all my arrows sport 4-fletch, 74x105.  for carbons the feathers are low profile banana cut, 4" long.  for woodies, i chop a higher profile and they're 4.7" in length.

longer and lower feathers offer better arrow shelf clearance while still maintaining good steerage.  higher cut feathers may just fly different and take more time to tune.

again, there is much value in doing yer own feather flight testing, don't just assume what you think will work best, will.  'cause it probably won't.     ;)
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: Stone Knife on April 09, 2010, 06:07:00 AM
4x4 parabolic works for me but Like Rob say's you need to try out what will best for you.

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Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: Terry Green on April 09, 2010, 08:30:00 AM
I went to 4 fletch....nothing wrong with 3 for me, just went to 4 for ONE reason....the no-look nocking advantage.

I shoot 5" Shields.
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: Stone Knife on April 09, 2010, 09:02:00 AM
I'm a cheap skate, I get two 4" out of one full length feather.
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: string bean on April 09, 2010, 09:48:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by JoeArizona:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by aussieman8:
if you used three inch the arrow might fly faster
Amen brother!

Just think how fast that 2 or 1 inch fletching would be!   :laughing:  

Joe [/b]
LOL I fletched some with 2-5" before and they flew purdy durn good for me.  Last night I even shot one with 2 1/2 - 5" feather and it shot right with the others.
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: Ragnarok Forge on April 09, 2010, 10:16:00 AM
I have to agree that feather testing is critical to your final feather selection.  I am using 4 - 3 inch fletch on carbon arrows that are perfectly tuned to my bow. The 4 - 3 inch fletch have almost the same surface area as 3 - 4 inch fletch.  I spent a year fiddling with a lot of different arrow sets ups and was intially resistant to going to 4 fletch.  I found that for me the advantages of four fletch out weighed my preference for three fletch.

I selected this set up for carbons after a lot of 3-d course shooting and stump shooting.  I shot from a bunch of different body angles and positions and intentionally used bad form on some shots to see how fast the arrow recovered.
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: frank bullitt on April 09, 2010, 11:57:00 AM
Well, with field points, for 3-D, stumping, and backyard shooting, smaller fletch will work.

Broadheads is a diffetent animal. If for bowhuntin, find a size that will work for them. The field points will follow!
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: aussieman8 on April 09, 2010, 01:18:00 PM
i think i might go with four 4" shield on 340 carbon shafts. my experience with fletching is that if it has any points like shield or pope and young cut it is going to make some noise in flight
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: Rob DiStefano on April 09, 2010, 01:26:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by aussieman8:
i think i might go with four 4" shield on 340 carbon shafts. my experience with fletching is that if it has any points like shield or pope and young cut it is going to make some noise in flight
the quick answer is 'yes'.  but lots depends on that exact feather fletch shape.

parabolic and banana shapes typically are very quiet.
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: aussieman8 on April 09, 2010, 04:45:00 PM
choosing which shape is so hard   :banghead:
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: Stone Knife on April 09, 2010, 04:49:00 PM
Quotei think i might go with four 4" shield on 340 carbon shafts. my experience with fletching is that if it has any points like shield or pope and young cut it is going to make some noise in flight  
It's the hiss of death   :archer2:
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: bearsfeet on April 09, 2010, 04:59:00 PM
I recently made the switch to 4-3" parobilc.
I really get great flight with bh and field points a like. The sound level has droped down to.

I was shooting yesterday and a big cross wind was blowing so I was able to see how the 3-5" 3-4" 4-3" all shot in the cross wind. It was gusty so not a great test but it was a good amount of wind! The 3-5" had bad flight starting at about 17 yards the 3-4" was about the same but @ 20yards as the 5" was at 17 yards. The 4-3" Shot like darts up to 25-27 yards (my max distance at the house). I shot both BH 2,4 and 3 blades and field tips to see if that made much difference with the wind it didnt seem to affect anything as much as the feather did. (my shooting is not up to some of your standards, I shoot 6" groups at my max range of 25yards so take from this what you want)

I think if you messed around with it you will find something that your happy with and you can always improve on things which is part of the fun! If we didn't love messing around with this stuff we would just shoot those strange looking contraptions with the wheels, strange cables, and bright neon lights hanging from them. Haha J/K

And like said before my main reason for shooting is hunting and I really like the lack of need to look down when nocking the arrow!
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: John Nail on April 09, 2010, 06:53:00 PM
I like both, but use 3 big shields. Why? Because when they get wet and lay down, they seem to control better
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: bearsfeet on April 09, 2010, 07:05:00 PM
John,

Have you compared the big shields to low cut  3" feathers like paroblic's? And how big of shields are you talking?

I found that my 5" shields layed down and although they flew ok still since once its tuned it doesnt seem make a huge differance when they are wet.

But my 3" paroblics are shorter in size (not sure extact)making them stiffer which seems to help shed water and they dont lay down as much if at all.
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: Shakes.602 on April 09, 2010, 08:09:00 PM
Stone Knife....Dont Feel like You are the  ONLY  Cheapskate  :readit:   You Betcha'!!  :archer2:
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: hightop_hunter on April 10, 2010, 09:43:00 PM
Iv been shooting 4 feather for about 6 years and i love um. spin fast and quiet correct quickly and are stable as a brick house. not only that but you can nock them without looking.  

The only thing id say is that after a season they take a lot of abuse so be sure u are able to replace them once they start to get ratty.
I figure its because they are rubbing against the shelf more regularly than 3 fletch arrows
Title: Re: four feather fletching
Post by: 8888blk on April 10, 2010, 09:50:00 PM
I use the back of the feather to my nose as one of my anchor points ( Rick Welch method)  With 4 fletch it allows me to keep my head more upright because of the angle of the feather vs. cock feather straight out. 4- 4" parabolic because they are more quiet, all white with no wraps because im a cheap a#$ too!  :D