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Title: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: motorhead7963 on April 06, 2010, 10:39:00 PM
Well I just made it in time.Today is the deadline to put in for a cow tag in Colo. I am going to make another trip up there, it's only been three years since I got to go last. If I don't draw a cow it don't matter I will still have an arrow for a Bull. got lots of time to get nice and deadly with my (new to me Super Kodiak @65lbs) Anybody else put in??
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: yamaharider on April 07, 2010, 06:07:00 AM
What area are you hunting?  I put in for an area that I know I will not draw, just trying to build preference points. Will get OTC (over-the-counter) either sex tag and have to hunt the more over-hunted areas.
Barry
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: Lost Arra on April 07, 2010, 07:18:00 AM
PP only

OTC for 2010
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: Keith Zimmerman on April 07, 2010, 07:27:00 AM
I have 10 PPs for elk, ph, and 7 for deer.  I am done putting in for points.  I wish they would bank points.  But that won't happen for another 5 years at least!
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: Tater 2 on April 07, 2010, 08:59:00 AM
Another PP in the bank and a local area tag second choice for me.
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: Bowmania on April 07, 2010, 10:05:00 AM
17 for elk.  Thought I'd draw the last 5 years.  This year I hope I don't because of other hunts, so I probably will.  I can attest to preference point creep.

Bowmania
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: wapiti792 on April 07, 2010, 10:50:00 AM
WOW! 17 pts...I now have 3 and will bank a bunch more and continue to hunt OTCs until I get ready to draw. Good luck to you all!
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: highelk on April 07, 2010, 11:51:00 AM
Just barely got mine in last night as well. You would think I would have it down by now but it seems every year I wait till the last minute.I got it in at 10 pm so I had a couple of hours to spare
Happy Hunting in Sept.
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: kadbow on April 07, 2010, 12:27:00 PM
I got mine done a few weeks ago, have a slight chance of drawing elk and antelope this year.  Put in something a little different for deer this year so there is a chance on that too. Of course there is the very very slight chance of drawing moose and sheep too.
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: e alexander on April 07, 2010, 01:00:00 PM
I got in for PP, hope to make it out this fall for an OTC hunt.
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: PV on April 07, 2010, 01:26:00 PM
Put in for my 16th elk point Monday.Now  with the hybrid draw and 5 pref points you can draw a unit that takes 10 or more points. 20% of all the licences go into the hybrid draw. A kick in the teeth for guys like bowmania and myself.
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: Ringneck on April 07, 2010, 01:51:00 PM
I messed up and didn't get my point in. Too much going on and it got away from me.
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: 4dogs on April 07, 2010, 06:10:00 PM
This point system needs a serious overhaul...without giving the shaft to guys that have been saving points for 10,15 even 20 years toward what ends up being a hunt of a lifetime for most of us.
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: MSwickard on April 07, 2010, 06:31:00 PM
Got mine in yesterday also.  Did the online applications.  PP for elk,deer, p-goat, sheep and Mt. goat.  Did use a 2nd for Deer for unit 80/81.

Doing the online I also, bought my combo Hunt/fish, turkey tag and habitat stamps.  Paid for the overnight and these arrived today.  

Nothing like forking out almost 700 beans for PP.  But you have to play the game.

Mike
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: Lost Arra on April 07, 2010, 07:14:00 PM
I'm new to the points game so please excuse my ignorance. Why would you guys accumulate 15+ points? How many do you need for the hunt you want?

I like to know I'm going hunting every fall so OTC is good for me. I'm just trying to accumulate enough points to try out a different GMU while I can still backpack my camp into a wilderness area.
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: PV on April 07, 2010, 07:30:00 PM
Well Lost Arra when I started banking points the GMU I'm interested in took 7 pp. With point creep it is now 18-19 as of last year. With the hybrid draw9new this year) someone with 5 points now can draw before me with 16. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: jhg on April 07, 2010, 07:34:00 PM
I put in for a limited either sex.

Regarding points: the probelm I see with the system is people banking years of hopes and dreams along with the points,  then becoming sour when those dreams seem to always be one point away.
I know it becomes important to many of us when we "think" we should by now be able to hunt a dream area, but life isn't like that.
I won't put my eggs in that basket.

Archery hunting is fun. And there is plenty of good country to have fun in without it being one of the units that everyone can't seem to get drawn for. There are 300+ class bulls taken in areas that have nothing to do with lots of points if its a big rack that we are after.


Joshua
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: Matty on April 07, 2010, 08:19:00 PM
Sorry in advance for the rant...;.
I cant stand this system, It seems all we do here in colorado is accumulate points For years and years.  Sure we can hunt over the counter areas among the thousands (literally) of us but I'm finding it to be the Biggest waste of time.  Lots of people have "honey holes"  or favorite spots but were all fighting for the same thing just to get a glimpse of an elk.  Iv'e even seen guys fighting in parking areas about who is going to hunt where, because they have been going to a certain area for years etc... IT'S PUBLIC GROUND!!!
Moose.... Ya good luck, I'll get my license when I'm too old to walk or dead for that matter and I'm 37 now.  I dont think it's worth donating $4 to the DOW for every animal I "might get the chance to hunt" for the next 30 years and by that time who knows what the cost of a tag will be..
I would rather save up the $$$ and go to Canada where I CAN have a better opportunity at a bigger moose, while I'm young enough to remember it.  And Pay the extra $$$ it will cost me to hunt on Private land here in Colorado For a decent shot at an elk.
The Hybrid Draw that Paul is talking about is really going to help older guys out that have been banking years worth of points and arent quite there yet..
Good luck to everybody!!
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: Wapiti Chaser on April 07, 2010, 08:31:00 PM
I sent in for my 9th point this year. Out of staters pay the $3.00 app & $25.00 if you just put in for a point.
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: motorhead7963 on April 07, 2010, 08:41:00 PM
I am like the rest of you guys I'm a nonresident and just can't justify the 25 bucks for a preference point that I will always be behind on. When I would have say, 7 points the unit I want to hunt will have jumped the point requirements and set me back that much further. So it is OTC for me. Where I go I see great shooters every time, so I will stick with that.
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: imhntn on April 08, 2010, 12:11:00 AM
I sent in Colorado for PP and New Mexico for either sex tags.
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: wapitimike1 on April 08, 2010, 05:14:00 AM
Did I read something wrong or did the regs this year say you had to use the points by ten years. If you didn't they would be nixed.
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: PV on April 08, 2010, 10:38:00 AM
I may have read it wrong but I believe it states you have to apply once every ten years to keep you points,used to be 5 years
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: Johan van Niekerk on April 08, 2010, 10:44:00 AM
As a matter of interest...Can someone please explain to me how tags and OTC etc work? Here in South Africa we have nothing similar but I've always been real curious. One never knows, I might even end up living on yourside of the world in the future and then I'll NEED to know  ;)
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: Lost Arra on April 08, 2010, 12:08:00 PM
motorhead: the pp doesn't cost $25 if you have purchased a big game tag the previous year
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: Jack Shanks on April 08, 2010, 03:12:00 PM
Johan,

Certain areas of Colorado are set aside for limited entry. Very few tags are given out each year in those units.You accunulate one point a year for the years you apply. There is drawing for the tags with the people with the most points given preference over those with fewer. If ten people had say 15 points and 20 people had 14 points and 17 tags were alloted all 15 people with 15 points would draw a tag and 2 of the people with 14 would draw. Over The Counter[ OTC} tags are simply that. You can buy a tag to hunt certain units where no points are needed. Typically you will have plenty of company in those units.

That said, I messed up my application last year and did not get a point so fell behind. I still have only have 15PP for elk.
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: motorhead7963 on April 08, 2010, 11:39:00 PM
Lost Arra: if you read my original post you would have read that it's been a couple years since I have gone to Colo. SO if I want to buy a preference point it Will COST me 25bucks to get one. To all those interested: go to Colorado DOW's website, go to the FAQs type in (preference points) and read the requirements.should answer alot of questions.
Title: Re: Colorado Elk Draw
Post by: Johan van Niekerk on April 09, 2010, 04:37:00 AM
Thanks Jack  :)

So...you do not pay for the actual animal, only for the tag? Once you have the tag you get to hunt "for free"?