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Title: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: osage1 on March 25, 2010, 08:41:00 AM
I was trying to do a search on HH bows to see some pictures of the self and handle. I could not bring anything up on HH bows, anybody know how to work this out.

Thanks
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: Mudd on March 25, 2010, 08:43:00 AM
Try this:http://www.howardhillarchery.com/longbows.html
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: osage1 on March 25, 2010, 08:53:00 AM
Mudd, I have been to the website and they have very few pictures of the bows.I haven't seen any un-strung,there was a topic on here a year ago with pictures, but i can't bring it up.

Thanks
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: JohnHV on March 25, 2010, 09:06:00 AM
You can try Dick Wightman's website:

http://www.howardhillshooters.com/hhbows/hhbows.html
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: ron w on March 25, 2010, 09:07:00 AM
Try the site,Howard Hill longbowmen, should be able to Google it.
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on March 25, 2010, 09:41:00 AM
70" Wesley Special, with a locator grip. The angle of the photo makes the bottom limb look short; it isn't.

(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l164/b_kleinig/Archery%20Gear/WesleySpecialCloseandUnstrung001.jpg)

(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l164/b_kleinig/Archery%20Gear/WesleySpecialCloseandUnstrung008.jpg)

(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l164/b_kleinig/Archery%20Gear/WesleySpecialCloseandUnstrung006.jpg)

(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l164/b_kleinig/Archery%20Gear/WesleySpecialCloseandUnstrung005.jpg)
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: Charlie Lamb on March 25, 2010, 09:52:00 AM
Lots of pics (http://www.howardhilllongbowmen.com/)
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: osage1 on March 25, 2010, 10:22:00 AM
Thanks Charlie, I was interested in the shlef, how much it was cut into the bow and the taper of the limbs.
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: osage1 on March 25, 2010, 10:25:00 AM
Ben,I can see the shelf good in your picture. What spline cedar arrow would you shoot off a 50# bow with a 271/2" draw?

Thanks
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: Ground Hunter on March 25, 2010, 10:28:00 AM
Ben, I'm waiting on a 70inch Wesley Special - any day now.  Your not making the wait any easier.  Ha!  H
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: Bill Turner on March 25, 2010, 10:55:00 AM
With a 50# Hill and a 27 and 1/2" draw you should be able to shoot 50/54 or 55/59 without problem. The Hill bows like heavy arrows. I have a 27 and 3/4" draw and have always shot 66/68" Hill's between 55@28 nd 57@28. With that said I just ordered a 64", TD "RedMan", 53@28. Looking forward to its arrival.
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: osage1 on March 25, 2010, 11:14:00 AM
Do any of you shoot Hill bows in the 40# range, around 45#? How do they perform for hunting deer size game?   Thanks
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: Ground Hunter on March 25, 2010, 11:18:00 AM
Osage1, As Bill said, 50 up to 60 spine should work well, depending on point weight.  I use that range for my 55# Cheetah, I like tapered POC..

Stay within your range limitations, a good sharp 2 blade - you'll be just fine.  H
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: lpcjon2 on March 25, 2010, 12:01:00 PM
When you go to the site order a catalog.
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: Stone Knife on March 25, 2010, 12:24:00 PM
Just buy one so you can get a closer look   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: frankwright on March 25, 2010, 05:32:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by osage1:
Do any of you shoot Hill bows in the 40# range, around 45#? How do they perform for hunting deer size game?   Thanks
I have a Wesley that is 45@28, I normally do not hunt with it but use it for 3D and daily practice.  I use a Cheetah that is just a little heavier for hunting  but their is no doubt the Wesley will do the job on a deer or pig.

Sharp broadhead and shot placement are key.
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: Ric O'Shay on March 25, 2010, 07:29:00 PM
Wesley Special, little larger grip slightly dished is actually 5.5" around the leather.

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e285/bard9l/IMG_0337-1.jpg)

Another Wesley Special, standard grip, slightly dished.

(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e285/bard9l/IMG_0696.jpg)
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: David Mitchell on March 25, 2010, 08:03:00 PM
Ric, that's exactly the size grip--5 1/2" circumference.  Here's a shot of my 40+ year old Tembo.
(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy241/davidmitchell_6466/Empty/Hill%20Tembo/DSC01200.jpg)
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: Overspined on March 25, 2010, 08:25:00 PM
I hunt with the 45-53# range, use a good heavy arrow and they are excellent performers inside 25 yds.  My favorites so far are wesley specials. Just seem to shoot a bit better for me than tembo and cheetah. Just a bit smoother in my opinion, but I like and shoot all of them.
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: Bill Skinner on March 25, 2010, 09:25:00 PM
I have a Tembo that is 48# at 28".  I have never shot a deer or turkey with mine, either.  It will put an arrow about three feet the other side of a 175# hog.  I suspect it would work fine on deer.  Bill
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: Missouri Bowman on March 25, 2010, 09:44:00 PM
If it will kill a hog, deer should be no problem Bill.  I have another Hill on order and can't wait.
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: Renaissance Man on March 25, 2010, 11:10:00 PM
45 is plenty of mojo for a deer, it was the most common weight all thru the 60's and 70's for deer hunters.
I would have no problem going after an elk with a good shooting 45 pound longbow and heavy arrows with razor sharp two bladers on it.
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: osage1 on March 26, 2010, 05:13:00 AM
Thanks for all the iformation and pictures. What length do you like best for a 27" draw?
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: Renaissance Man on March 26, 2010, 09:56:00 AM
I would ask your bowyer about that, because it depends on which design you are interested in, and it depends on the feel you want out of a bow. If you came into my shop when I had it and were looking for a smooth fast bow for your draw in a Hill style traditional bow I would recommend to you a 66" bow.
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: LongStick64 on March 26, 2010, 10:43:00 AM
The length of a Hill is determined by what you are comfortable with and how you want the bow to perform.

I have a 60" Big 5, short for a Hill but it flat out rips an arrow and it's short length is a plus in the woods. I also have a 68" Cheetah, Smooth is an understatement. I can shoot this bow all day long and never get tired of it. Since I a hunt with my two feet on the ground I am less likely to bring the Cheetah with me in the woods.
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: Bill Turner on March 26, 2010, 11:16:00 AM
Craig at Howard Hill would tell you that at your draw length a 64" would be just fine. A 64" with the same draw weight as a 66" set up the same way should be a little faster. The 66" will be a little smoother with everything else being equal. Neither should produce the often discussed thump which I have never experienced with a Hill. Highly recommend the Hill bows. Can't beat Craig for knowledge and customer service.
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: Magwa45 on March 26, 2010, 08:35:00 PM
Hey David Mitchell,

I like that old Tembo, sweet! Just ordered a new one myself.
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: David Mitchell on March 30, 2010, 02:26:00 PM
Osage1, I shot a very big wild sow with a Wesley Special that I get 48# out of at 28"draw.  No trouble with penetration at all--had about 12"of arrow sticking out the off side.  I would not be at all afraid to hunt deer, hogs, or bears with it--maybe even an elk.....Dave
Title: Re: Howard Hill longbows
Post by: Dick in Seattle on March 30, 2010, 09:02:00 PM
I don't hunt with Hills, though I have a number of them.  I started building my own Hill styles and wanted to try them on hunting.   I took a javelina last year, pass through shot, with a 42#, though to be honest I'm lousy at hitting anchor and probably only pulled about 38#.  I have no doubt that a Hill of 40# would handle deer size game.