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Title: you gotta try KME's new stones!!
Post by: bamboo on March 25, 2010, 06:59:00 AM
the other day i stopped in to see ron --and he's chompin at the bit!!so he shows me his new KME brand stones--well we get to testing--and ron produces this beat up 2-blade broadhead--dull as a stump![i'm not sure where he gets them!!maybe Bentpole knows!!HAHA!!]and in less than a minute has it shaving!!and this was the coarse stone!!with the broadhead sharpener and a coarse stone--well needless to say i got me a coarse and a medium--these stones are wicked flat and oil filled---just the ticket for 3-blades too!!---give ron a call!!
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Post by: dave19113 on March 25, 2010, 09:22:00 AM
Is that the RED/BLUE stone?
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Post by: NorthernCaliforniaHunter on March 25, 2010, 10:47:00 AM
I just got my knife sharpener and lost sleep for two nights sharpening EVERYTHING in the house! Even the butter knives have shaving edges (no, not the butter knives)!!

I did learn, the VERY hard way, not to sharpen stuff whilst standing over a hard surface (like my concrete garage floor). I dropped the coarse stone and it shattered!    :(  

I didn't even have it a week and was just about to sharpen the lawn mower blade...    :banghead:  

So sad.
Title: Re: you gotta try KME's new stones!!
Post by: dave19113 on March 25, 2010, 10:51:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by NorthernCaliforniaHunter:
I just got my knife sharpener and lost sleep for two nights sharpening EVERYTHING in the house! Even the butter knives have shaving edges (no, not the butter knives)!!

I did learn, the VERY hard way, not to sharpen stuff whilst standing over a hard surface (like my concrete garage floor). I dropped the coarse stone and it shattered!     :(    

I didn't even have it a week and was just about to sharpen the lawn mower blade...     :banghead:  

So sad.
I feel your pain...
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Post by: Terry Green on March 25, 2010, 11:18:00 AM
Still waiting on mine to arrive.

T
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Post by: Jake on March 25, 2010, 01:00:00 PM
Terry,  Your stones are shipping tomorrow.
Title: Re: you gotta try KME's new stones!!
Post by: bamboo on March 25, 2010, 01:32:00 PM
dave
ron is having these stones made to his specs
and they are both dark brown in color
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Post by: bentpole on March 25, 2010, 04:50:00 PM
mikey , not my old broadheads.    :scared:     These new stones put a sharper edge on broadheads and knives!!??    :eek:    I gotta see this.    :saywhat:    We'll have to get together have some breakfast and do some walkin' /scoutin' up there soon.     :thumbsup:
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Post by: joe skipp on March 25, 2010, 08:38:00 PM
Cool...Ron has a neat little shop...now if we can only get him out of the shop and into the woods more often....   :saywhat:

We need to keep Stiffrod away and things will start looking brighter...KME is definately the real deal and those "sharpening Challenged" should seriously consider this product.
Title: Re: you gotta try KME's new stones!!
Post by: katman on March 25, 2010, 08:43:00 PM
Think I will give these a try. Question for the KME guys, Will the course and medium/fine stones be enough for broadheads or should you go on to a Arkansas stone and if so which one? Thanks.
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Post by: Juan on March 25, 2010, 09:01:00 PM
Are they the "Super-Tuff" Ceramic Stones?
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Post by: Jake on March 25, 2010, 10:11:00 PM
Katman the two stones are all you need to get them sharp.  You can use a fine hard Arkansas to get a more polished edge.  Personal preference.  That is what is in the BH Deluxe Kit.
Juan...yes.  Those are the new stones.
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Post by: katman on March 25, 2010, 10:17:00 PM
Thanks Jake, order going in.
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Post by: 1/4 away on March 26, 2010, 07:45:00 AM
Are these stones available for the knife sharpener as well? That is what I use on my Abowyer Brown Bears.
Title: Re: you gotta try KME's new stones!!
Post by: Jake on March 26, 2010, 08:36:00 AM
Fred,  We are having some made now that will fit the stone carrier 1"x4".  Not sure when they will be available.  The Gang will be the first to know.
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Post by: 1/4 away on March 26, 2010, 09:00:00 AM
Great, thanks.
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Post by: snag on March 26, 2010, 01:47:00 PM
Jake, is that the Aluminum-oxide stone on your site that we are talking about?
Title: Re: you gotta try KME's new stones!!
Post by: Jake on March 26, 2010, 02:18:00 PM
Snag,  Yes that is correct.  6x2 Bench stones coarse and med/fine.
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Post by: L82HUNT on March 26, 2010, 06:25:00 PM
Ordered some new diamond stones last night for my knife sharpener.  Thanks
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Post by: metsastaja on March 26, 2010, 07:08:00 PM
just sent in an order.  Looking forward to getting them and giving them a try.
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Post by: Jake on March 26, 2010, 07:29:00 PM
Hey guys thanks for the orders.  Just talked to Ron and we both agree...the more you use these stones the better they get.  After a slight break in period they really start to shine.  Any feedback ya'll have is appreciated.  Tell us is you like 'em or not.  We are very excited about these stones. But in the end it is you ...the archer that we are here to please.  They work great with the BH sharpener and it looks like they will soon be offered for the knife sharpener 1"x4" as well.  These stones are 100% USA made.  Our commitment has always been to keep jobs here.  Thank you all again for your support.  IF anyone has any questions I encourage you to give us a call.
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Post by: Soilarch on March 26, 2010, 11:18:00 PM
Jake, do you have a rough estimate for a micron/grit rating on these stones?  (I know ceramics really make "grit" confusing...but I think you know what I'm asking.)

And I'll bite...can you use them dry.  From what I've learned online this is far more than your average India Oilstone, correct?

You make a mention of a break in period so I assume they DO 'fracture' a bit.  Any comparisons to Jap. Naturals that cost $$$$$$$$$$$$$?

Guys, these may be "bigger" than most realize.

Very Excited.


*don't wanna hurt the reputation of these stones..."fracture" the way I meant it is a good thing.  I wouldn't want people thinking the stones will break in two!
Title: Re: you gotta try KME's new stones!!
Post by: Sharpster on March 27, 2010, 07:55:00 AM
Thanks Everyone!

We originally had these made to replace the Norton stones because Norton closed the N.H. stone factory, laid all those people off and set up shop in Mexico. If they want to do that, it's their choice I guess.... but, it's  our  choice not to give them another dime of our business because of it.  :readit:

So we started looking for an American company that could make us a stone that was comparable to the Norton India. Wow, I didn't think it would be that tough! We got samples from a few places and have been working with one company for close to a year now. Been back and forth with samples, "can you make them harder"?...more samples, "gotta be perfectly flat"... After many more samples and experiments with different grits, I think we have almost accidentally created a stone that is superior to the Norton.

Jake and I were discussing this last night and as he said, they do have a brief break-in period. It's a brief period though, like a diamond stone. They definitely get better the more you use them. At first I thought they might even be more aggressive than diamond stones. After giving them a thorough 9 day punishment test at the Harrisburg show, we concluded that they're not quite as aggressive as the diamond stones but close. I think they fall somewhere between diamonds and India stones as aggressive stock removal goes. The thing that gets me is the fact that I can get a blade to shave very effortlessly using just the coarse stone, and it is very coarse BTW. (I'm not even gonna tell you what the grits are cause you wouldn't believe me)...(Sorry Soilarch). They are very hard and we guarantee them not to belly or dish out. We're very excited about these too and would really like to hear everyone's thoughts about them.

Oh yea, we will be replacing the x-coarse silicon carbide stone in the knife kits with one similar to the new stones so that we can guarantee the whole 4 stone set. Thanks,

Ron
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Post by: beachbowhunter on March 27, 2010, 10:33:00 AM
Ron, its no accident that's for sure!  You were getting after this last year when we hunted at Ray's. Dude, your handle says it all...Sharpster. I swear when you nicked yourself with a broadhead, cutting oil came out!

Congrats on a job well done.

Norb
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Post by: Randy Morin on March 27, 2010, 10:43:00 AM
Cool, I will be interested in replacing my coarse stone in my knife kit (with stones).  After honing a bunch of grizzlies and others it is dished out pretty bad.  Cant wait.     :thumbsup:      :archer:
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Post by: dave19113 on March 27, 2010, 11:27:00 AM
Just 1 question guys.... I have the Norton red/blue stone..... Is that the same as these new stones or is it worth going with the new one?


I think I will go with one of the Extra Fine Grit - Dan's Hard Black Arkansas Stone for a final hone, but do I need this new ceramic one?
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Post by: snag on March 27, 2010, 01:48:00 PM
I just placed an order for them. Any idea when they will ship?
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Post by: Jake on March 27, 2010, 03:46:00 PM
Dave,  What kind of heads do you plan on sharpening?  I can better answer your question if I know what brand you are using.
Snag,  They will ship on Monday a.m.
Title: Re: you gotta try KME's new stones!!
Post by: dave19113 on March 27, 2010, 04:21:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Jake:
Dave,  What kind of heads do you plan on sharpening?  I can better answer your question if I know what brand you are using.
Snag,  They will ship on Monday a.m.
Ace, Magnus 2 blade and Magnus Stingers