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Title: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: daveycrockett on March 20, 2010, 11:31:00 PM
Gonna try a 60"PSA soon. Looking for some feedback from long draw guys who have shot one. I draw aout 30.5" on a recurve. Think it's gonna be a problem? Widow says good to 31".
Title: Re: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on March 20, 2010, 11:33:00 PM
If you're worried, go for the 60" PCH - same length bow, but longer limbs for even longer draw than the PSA.
Title: Re: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: woodsman 365 on March 21, 2010, 07:44:00 AM
60" PSA limbs... 27-31" DL
62" PSA limbs... 29-33" DL

At my 28" DL I ordered the 60" PSA. Less string angle and a little smoother. >>> RAY
Title: Re: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: 684Kevin on March 21, 2010, 07:57:00 AM
Ben Kleinig took my words, a 60" PCH should feel similar to a 62" PSA.  I would think a 62" PSA would be my choice if I had your draw length.  Along with a better feeling draw you should get a performance advantage of the 2" of extra limb working for you.
Title: Re: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: mooseman76 on March 21, 2010, 08:04:00 AM
I don't think you'll have a problem at all.  I owned a bunch of 60" Widows.  My draw is about 29.5" (since putting a clicker on my bow), but I easily pulled mine to 30.5" when trying to achieve perfect alignment.  I prefer the 60" over the 62" after shooting them all side by side...Mike
Title: Re: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: Big Ed on March 21, 2010, 08:15:00 AM
Dave, I shoot a 60" PSAX and love it. I have a 58" PCH coming for blind hunting. I draw a true 31".   Ed
Title: Re: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: Night Wing on March 21, 2010, 08:19:00 AM
No finger pinch with a 30" draw length or longer with the 60" or 62" bow?
Title: Re: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: Yellow Dog on March 21, 2010, 08:25:00 AM
I draw 30" and I've had both a 60" SAII and a 62" SAIII. I still have the 60" which I bought new back in 1997, sold the 62". For my draw the 60" was just as comfortable as the 62". With the 62" I had to "work" at keeping the lower string from bumping against me on downward shots out of a treestand. Always had that in the back of my mind when I shot it so I sold it. I have a 62" MAIII which I shoot just as well as the 60" SAII but because of the riser length they both have the same length working limb. A 58" PCH will have the same limb length as a 60" PSA. The pics show the 60" SA Greybark limbs next the the 62" MA Autumn Oak limbs. You can see they are the same length. Hopefully that helps.

 (http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/Yellowdog3822/P3210446.jpg)
Title: Re: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: The Hawk on March 21, 2010, 11:18:00 AM
I spent the better part of the day a couple of days ago shooting Black Widows at the factory.  I mostly shot the PCH with 56" limbs.  I draw 29 1/2".  The charts suggest a 58" minimum for that draw length but,  the 56" limbs felt great with no pinch (I do have long skinny fingers).
Title: Re: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: GMASIUK on March 21, 2010, 11:22:00 AM
I have both PSA and PCH in the 60" length and draw 30". You would be fine with either but the PCH is slightly smoother IMO.
Title: Re: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: joevan125 on March 21, 2010, 11:33:00 AM
I have a 30in draw and i have been shooting a 62in PSA X but i would also like to see if i can shoot a 60in Widow.

They are comming to Alabama in a couple of months and i hope they bring some 60in bows with them.
Title: Re: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: Dan White on March 21, 2010, 11:34:00 AM
I spent a couple of hours shooting PCHs down to 54" (54", 56",& 58"). I draw 29.5 and got no pinch or stack on any of them. I have big hands. Hawk is right BW's chart says 58". As Roger Fulton said "you have got to draw the line some where, try them.".
Title: Re: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: STEVE R. on March 21, 2010, 03:19:00 PM
The one thing that you will find out about a BW bow is that the limbs bend very well. I shoot a 60" pmaII and a 62"pl and I draw 30+". In fact most other bows stack badly from 29" on up.This is one of the reasons that I shoot a widow.
Title: Re: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: Ground Hunter on March 21, 2010, 05:24:00 PM
You need to try one yourself - at the poundage you want.  As the draw weight increases, things start feeling quite different.  Do a test drive on a bow like what you are interested in.  H
Title: Re: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: LongStick64 on March 21, 2010, 05:50:00 PM
Can't answer as far as long draws but my 60" PSR X is stacking arrows and busting nocks. Super smooth, no stack. I traded a Morrison Cheyenne for it and I'm not missing the Morrison at all.
Title: Re: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: Chinook on March 21, 2010, 06:09:00 PM
Dave,
I draw 30 1/2" too, and have both a 60" MAV and a 62" SAV (a few years difference in the vintages). For me - it seems they are pretty much the same as far as draw, finger pinch, etc. - with just a slightly smoother feel on the 62" - but only slightly.  
The small difference (2") in overall length though, does seem to handle better in those hunting situations - like tree stand or a ground blind.  Just a small difference but it does help. With the 62" it seems like I am always have to keep the lower limb from hitting something.  And as mentioned above - if you have to shoot a severe angle, the string tends to bump against your leg or tree stand on downward shots.

If you go with a PSA - the working limb length will be the same as a MA riser.  I think you will find that you will like it.  As suggested above - do the test drive to see how it feels for you.  

All in all, I prefer my 60" SAV over the 62" MAV - but that's me ..........
Chinook
Title: Re: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: Dan White on March 21, 2010, 09:42:00 PM
Dave,
    Give BW a call. I asked Roger Fulton why I could pull such a short bow without problems. He explained the forward riser, where the limbs attach, and a lot about the geometry of the bow. I know I did not have a problem and leave the rest to the bowyer. They are great to deal with whether you buy a bow from them or not.
Title: Re: 60" Widows and long draws
Post by: carlo1404 on March 22, 2010, 08:54:00 AM
Hi, I own one PSAV 60" 41# , at my draw of 29/29.5" (30" when I try to perform a perfect alignement) I haven't any problem due to the lenght.
Bye
Carlo