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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Bahrzoo on March 15, 2010, 03:35:00 PM

Title: Deflection of TRADITIONAL ONLY arrows
Post by: Bahrzoo on March 15, 2010, 03:35:00 PM
I am trying to figure out the deflection of the Traditional Only 400 and 500 arrows and how they compare to a Carbon Express heritage 150 and 250?
Title: Re: Deflection of TRADITIONAL ONLY arrows
Post by: wtpops on March 15, 2010, 03:54:00 PM
Trad only 400 is .400
trad only 500 is .500

And so on.

If im not mistaken that is.
Title: Re: Deflection of TRADITIONAL ONLY arrows
Post by: Biggie Hoffman on March 15, 2010, 04:01:00 PM
I just went from the Heritage 350 to the Traditional 400's. Enough of a difference that I don't get the wiggle I was getting with the 350's.

Sorry I can't answer your question but Pops did already anyway 8-)
Title: Re: Deflection of TRADITIONAL ONLY arrows
Post by: Bahrzoo on March 15, 2010, 04:11:00 PM
Biggie, The Carbon Express 350 has a deflection of .260 and that would mean the Tradional Only arrow is at .400 that is a huge spread. I am wondering if the Tradional Only arrow really has a deflection of .400? The deflection of the Carbon Express 350 is at 26" is that also the way the Tradional Only arrow is getting its deflection of .400?
Title: Re: Deflection of TRADITIONAL ONLY arrows
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on March 15, 2010, 04:12:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bahrzoo:
I am trying to figure out the deflection of the Traditional Only 400 and 500 arrows and how they compare to a Carbon Express heritage 150 and 250?
As per the Carbon Express web site, their Heritage shafts have the following deflections:

90 = .530
150 = .487
250 = .373
350 = .320

 http://www.carbonexpressarrows.com/cms/node/75  

"Traditional Only" shafts, which are relabeled Beman ICS Classics, have whatever deflection the model number shows (ex. 400 = .400, 340 = .340 etc.).

All of these deflections are at 28" with a 1.94# weight, as per ATA specs.
Title: Re: Deflection of TRADITIONAL ONLY arrows
Post by: wapiti792 on March 15, 2010, 04:37:00 PM
I went from a 250 heritage to a 300 Trad Only and had to add alot of weight. I got a 690 gr elk arrow...now I know why  :)
Title: Re: Deflection of TRADITIONAL ONLY arrows
Post by: Bahrzoo on March 15, 2010, 04:58:00 PM
OK the chart I am looking at is based at 26" for the carbon Express arrows and they are as follows
90= .410
150= .375
250= .300
350= .260

How do we know the Tradional Only arrows are at 28" and not 26" ? Is it standard to measure at 28"?

In the back of the Black Widow owners manual is were I am getting my information on the deflection and it is based on 26" .
Title: Re: Deflection of TRADITIONAL ONLY arrows
Post by: dino on March 15, 2010, 06:06:00 PM
28" with a 1.94# weight is an ATA standard for the measurement of carbon shafting.  26" is for measuring wood.
Title: Re: Deflection of TRADITIONAL ONLY arrows
Post by: Killdeer on March 15, 2010, 06:41:00 PM
Anybody know why the heck they did that?
Maybe to get us to buy a bunch of shafts because we don't know how they were calibrated?   :saywhat:

Every time I learn something, they change it!   :banghead:
Killdeer
Title: Re: Deflection of TRADITIONAL ONLY arrows
Post by: Bahrzoo on March 15, 2010, 07:44:00 PM
Dino, Thanks for clearing that up. Now it all makes sense.
Title: Re: Deflection of TRADITIONAL ONLY arrows
Post by: Zbone on March 15, 2010, 07:51:00 PM
Since Carbonwoods are no long made, and was shooting the 3000s, anyone know their deflection and/or what of the Traditional Onlys are comparable?

Thanx
Title: Re: Deflection of TRADITIONAL ONLY arrows
Post by: varmint101 on March 15, 2010, 07:57:00 PM
Killdeer, that's how Easton spines their arrows and that's who makes the TradOnly series.  Kinda like how Gold Tip says 5575, 7595 etc.  Just their thang.
Title: Re: Deflection of TRADITIONAL ONLY arrows
Post by: Bahrzoo on March 15, 2010, 08:11:00 PM
Zbone, What are you shooting for a bow and how much weight? What draw length? How heavey do you want the arrow to finish up at as far as over all weight goes?
Title: Re: Deflection of TRADITIONAL ONLY arrows
Post by: Guru on March 15, 2010, 08:14:00 PM
Z, The closest to the 3000's would be 400's...but they'll be a heavier arrow.
Title: Re: Deflection of TRADITIONAL ONLY arrows
Post by: Zbone on March 15, 2010, 08:22:00 PM
Thanx Guru

Bahrzoo - I shoot different weights of bows and points, was looking for the same spine deflection of a Traditional Only compared to a Carbonwood 3000 at 28".

Thanx
Title: Re: Deflection of TRADITIONAL ONLY arrows
Post by: Zbone on March 15, 2010, 08:38:00 PM
Oops, forgot to ask, what is the outside diameter of the Traditional Only 400s, and will my Vapor Carbonwood 3000 inserts and nocks fit these shafts?

Thanx