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Title: Why dont my inserts fit?
Post by: fishfanatic19 on March 07, 2010, 10:23:00 PM
Someone gave me a dozen of easton legacy arrows in 2016. So i went on 3rivers and bought nocks and a dozen 2016 inserts & then cut the arrows to the size i wanted with a tubing cutter and tried to put the inserts in and low and behold they wont go in. Why? i never used aluminums b4 please help!!!!!
Title: Re: Why dont my inserts fit?
Post by: JimB on March 07, 2010, 10:34:00 PM
It might be that the end is pinched in from the tubing cutter.I haven't used the tubing cutter on aluminum so I don't know if there are any tricks to it.Someone should chime in.
Title: Re: Why dont my inserts fit?
Post by: Spectre on March 07, 2010, 10:42:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by JimB:
It might be that the end is pinched in from the tubing cutter.I haven't used the tubing cutter on aluminum so I don't know if there are any tricks to it.Someone should chime in.
Thats it. Run the point of your pocketknife around in there for a sec and root the lip off, then it will fit.
Title: Re: Why dont my inserts fit?
Post by: ronp on March 07, 2010, 10:47:00 PM
Sometimes I use a fine round file to gently file off the lip left from the tubing cutter.  Also, go easy with the tubing cutter to prevent pinching the shaft and leaving it out of round.
Ron
Title: Re: Why dont my inserts fit?
Post by: BOWMARKS on March 07, 2010, 10:48:00 PM
Do they fit in the original end that you cut off? If they do the arrow is pinched , if they do not you most likely have the wrong size insert. I have pinched them useing the tubing cutter and it just took a small round file to take care of problem.  

Good luck MARK
Title: Re: Why dont my inserts fit?
Post by: Friends call me Pac on March 07, 2010, 10:50:00 PM
I use a tubing cutter on my 2016s as well.  Too much pressure will cause them to close ever so slightly.  When that happens to me I just hold the shaft opening over a candle for about 30 seconds.  Get the insert started and press the arrow/ insert straight down on a table top.
Title: Re: Why dont my inserts fit?
Post by: fishfanatic19 on March 07, 2010, 11:11:00 PM
Thanx i'll try  everything you guys said. some1 said to buy a deburring tool any1 ever use 1?
Title: Re: Why dont my inserts fit?
Post by: BOWMARKS on March 07, 2010, 11:21:00 PM
Yes they do the archery shop I spend my time at has them and they work great. I have some kind of tool, do not know what it is but works great also it is a tapered triangle about 4" long from point to handle.
Title: Re: Why dont my inserts fit?
Post by: Spectre on March 07, 2010, 11:22:00 PM
You can use a little countersink tool, too.
Title: Re: Why dont my inserts fit?
Post by: americanhunter7 on March 07, 2010, 11:23:00 PM
I use a deburring tool for alums and an ASD (arrow squaring device) for my carbons. Both tools work great and make your inserts fit very nice.
Title: Re: Why dont my inserts fit?
Post by: LKH on March 07, 2010, 11:25:00 PM
If you have a buddy who reloads ammo, get use of his deburring tool for a few minutes.
Title: Re: Why dont my inserts fit?
Post by: fishfanatic19 on March 07, 2010, 11:29:00 PM
where can you buy a deburring tool besides a archery shop or online? I live in nyc and there aint any archery shops near by the closest "real" archery shop is almost 2 hours away? Home depot lowes?
Title: Re: Why dont my inserts fit?
Post by: bowslinger on March 07, 2010, 11:46:00 PM
I use an arrow cut-off saw and recently had a package of inserts that did not fit, even after deburring.  Had a few inserts of another brand laying around (need to tidy up my bench)and they fit fine.  I suspect the package I bought is not marked properly.
Title: Re: Why dont my inserts fit?
Post by: akdd on March 08, 2010, 04:20:00 AM
You should be able to get a deburring tool at any sporting goods store that sells reloading equipment. It is the same one re-loaders use to deburr their cartridges.
Title: Re: Why dont my inserts fit?
Post by: onewhohasfun on March 08, 2010, 04:28:00 AM
I always used an old 3 blade Snuffer to de-burr.
Title: Re: Why dont my inserts fit?
Post by: frank bullitt on March 08, 2010, 11:56:00 AM
Fish, everyone is right about the bur. You may have deformed the shaft some also. If you have a "Good" tubing cutter, it will have a triangle shape knife, deburring tool in the handle.

I have used round file, diamond hone rod and such. You don't need to buy a tool, if you have a metal file for sharpening broadheads, it will work perfect! Just insert, the metal handle into the shaft and ream the tube! Also when you heat it up some the aluminum will expand some.

Tube cutters work great, just remember to go slow and tighten the wheels a little bit at a turn.