I have a few ?'s on these bad boys! I had one season where i shot them and managed to harvest a late season doe with a speedy recovery! Great bloodtrail(it was Dec. in MN:)), and awesome penetration! My ?'s are, I have read that they whistle in flight, but do not remember hearing anything when i shot them? Are they durable, like durable enough for an elk, bear, moose hunt? How do they measure up to the Wensel Woodsman, and Terminators? Any other thoughts, or experinces welcome!!!
:campfire: I am thinking about them, or the WW 175 SS solid ones maybe. Watched the 3 rivers videos on sharpening them, and I think I can do that.
oh yeah thats another ? i have! How do they sharpen, is it the same as the WW, 2 edges at a time on a stone or file? I see that they make a special 2 file sharpener for them too, is that a must have?
Inmo I have shot snuffers and woodsman in 3/4" plywood and the woodsman tip stayed in shape and the snuffer had a little curve to it.And with the rite file woodsman's are easy to sharpen. :thumbsup:
The snuffers are great for elk harvested mine with one 3rivers sells a 3bld sharpener and it put a edge on the suffers that is sharp. I have both the ww, and the snuffers snuffers go hunting more than the ww yes the whistle get a video camera and shoot over it you will hear it when it pass by some call it the hiss of death
Does the whistle spook game at all? The tip wont curve as much if its reduced from a needle point to a diamond point IMO! Is the factory grind very good, or would it need some file attention before it could be taken to a stone for sharpening?
the whistle has never spooked any I shot at until the arrow is on the other side of them
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It's the last thing the animal will ever hear !!
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I beleive if you listen close you can hear it whistleing TAPS :p
I use flat file to true up the factory grind, then coarse thru fine stone, hit a fine diamond hone and strop very lightly on a really glossy magazine to polish. They are very strong, wicked heads. You shouldnt see any little grind lines in the shiny part of the edge when done and you will feel the head glide across sharpening surface instead of drag.
160 grain Snuffers are my favorite black bear head.
They sharpen very easily and relatively quickly.
I never had a problem with their durability.
Once I went through a caribou and then hit a big rock. The very tip was slightly curled but it was easily filed away.
Im really wanting to shoot em for their supposed ease of sharpening and strength! I shoot a 55# Bear Montana longbow and am in the process of makin some douglas fir arrows for elk hunting and am looking for a broadhead that i can use for everything(deer, elk, turkey, etc) out of it! Would it be a good choice for elk out of a 55# bow, i will have a total finished arrow weight of about 640gr?
My findings have been opposite to the comment above.I found the WW's where far more likely to curl at the tip than a Snuffer and w/ the Snuffer Tamer.Both equally easy to sharpen.
IMO the 160gr Snuffer is as good as it gets
I used them years ago when Roger Rothar made made them but haven't tried them since Magnus took over. I really liked them and took deer and bear with awesome blood trails. I do remember a hiss when they flew but I was using large feathers and the 145gn heads. I don't know why but sometime later I went to using Bear razorheads. Last week I purchased a 1/2 dozen Magnus Snuffers 125gns to use on turkey and deer this year. I haven't opened the pack but they look good.
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I beleive if you listen close you can hear it whistleing TAPS :p
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I've killed a bunch of stuff with then over the last 10yrs. As far as the "whistle"...
I've never had one whistle, they do have a soft "hiss" though. I think if they're whistling, they may not set true on the arrow.
I also wouldn't use anything but a 160(145's are pretty good as well). The 125 is a much weaker ground down version of the big 160.
Yea......that's what I remember. The 125gns that I just bought do look a little weaker.
160 Are my favorite.Big blood trails.I only use snuffers no matter what i hunt,Mice to bear.Nice pictures Guru and Earl. :scared:
They work great. Just make sure to use a steel or brass adapter is using carbon or aluminum. The "screw-in" snuffers on aluminum adapters will bend if you hit something to hard.
Cool, i planned on using the 160's if i get em as i need that weight for spine! Still though, are they ok to shoot out of a 55# longbow with a heavier arrow like my 640gr? Would penetration be adequate?
yes
I use the Magnus, and no complaints. I can't say about the whistle, haven't heard it. I can't see any reason to change.
How do these 160's fly? Are they easy to tune and forgiving to shoot? They are large, but vented so I have no idea, and I was wondering if they would shoot as well as the 175 3:1 WW head.
Big bow - big broadhead - no problems! H
I heard they whistle also but never did notice it the 2 years I shot them. They were easy to sharpen I thought and really done some damage.
However I shot a doe in Missouri and hit too far forward hitting the front shoulder blade, the arrow did not penetrate at all. When I found the arrow a few yards form the shot the tip was curled over. I also killed one from a spine shot and it curled the tip over also. Then I had a couple that the weld/braze broke on the blades. I quit using them after that.
From what im gathering here the 125gr and 145gr models arent the best for their toughness! The 160gr is the boss, i think i will get some and give em a try! I hope the big cut doesnt hinder penetration with my 55# bow!
I just recently shot a doe with my 160's and was a little forward. I went through the shoulder with a 53@27 longbow at 21 yards. I think you will be fine.
I like the whisteling, never heard it, but I like the idea. I like to think of it as "The deer knows he's about to be SNUFFERIZED"!!!!!!
160's rule!!!!!
I use the 160's for turkey hunting w/ my 48lb longbow,but not to sure about trying to send one through a deer.....I like to just stick with my 160 Ace Standards for that job.
I got introduced to the snuffers by Rodger himself years ago. I like the 160 grain models. Like Rodger says why not punch a great big hole rather then a small one. I sharpen mine on a grinder with a medium stone two blades at a time. Sliding the arrow across the tips of my thumb and middle finger while moving the arrow across the stone with the other hand. It leaves a burred edge that you can remove with a diamond stone or a piece of leather. Or you can leave the burr on for a more tearing effect. I never had a noise problem. I think all arrows make a little noise, if you stand to the side in front of someone shooting. Like the other guy said, its the last thing that critter will ever hear. THEY DON'T SUFFER WITH A SNUFFER!!!!
do you think the 160's will be ok for foxes out of my 54# recurve? :biglaugh:
Clint I seriously doubt a fox would have much use for a 160. No matter how you send it.
160grn Magnus Snuffer from a 50# selfbow.. Took a few deer with it... So far only rocks have bent the tips on my snuffers 160 grn.
I agree with a few others. I have heard mine hiss a little bit, but no whistle. More like the sound of a soft breeze. I have only shot a couple of animals with them and they certainly do the job. I believe one of the blades had a curve in it after one of the kills. It was a pass through and may have hit something in the ground. I would check them real good before I re-used one. I also destroyed one trying to pull it out of a log, but that is to be expected.
I use the screw in 125 grain snuffers and the last package I bought I had a few that didn't spin right. They wobbled right out the package. I think the head is glued on to an aluminum screw-in adapter, so they probably weren't glued right. I didn't notice that on the first package I bought but I can't remember if I checked them all. They are fairly inexpensive compared to other heads, so I'll probably stick with them for a while.
As for the tips, I file them into a very small pyramid shaped point before I use them. I don't know if it is necessary but it eliminates any worry about the tip curling.
I really like to tune my set-up using the big snuffers. Seems I can consistantly tune my set-up marketly better than with bare shafts.
I think people get too excited about whistling. I've yet to hear someone say it caused an animal to jump. If anything they may freeze to try to locate the sound. In any case, its all over long before it matters in my experience. The only issue I can think of is a particularly loud one might make a 2nd shot difficult if you had a clean miss. But even then, I don't think they find it to be a threatening sound.