A little help here
First of all thanks for your time reading this, I have been checking this forum for a while now, recently I registered and now Im hooked!
I'm in the process of putting my training wheels aside, I have been a rifle hunter all my life, started bowhunting with compounds 2 years ago and this past novemeber I gave myself a Bear Montana Longbow as birthday present to calm the traditional bug that I had since always.
Im in need of arrows! the bow I bought came with 3 arrows, well the first day I shoot it robin hood one, the second day miss the target and broke another, I have been shooting with odd arrows friends gave me and almost every time I shoot I have lost at least one. Anyway I haven't shoot in more than a week and its killing me! I urgently need arrows so I was checking online shops and I'm between: 3rivers hunter arrows, kustomkings or rosearchery, what would you recomend?
Considering I have lost/broke an arrow almost every time I shoot, and most probably I will continue to until I start shooting properly I would like to not invest a lot of $$$ but also I dont want to be frustrated by the results of unstraight poorly weight/spine matched arrows.
I would like to order them ASAP, oh and they have to be wooden arrows because I plan to shoot the local 3d serial and the longbow category specifies that
Thanks again
I bought some of the 3Rivers Hunter cedar arrows and some of their Tred Barta cedar arrows when I was starting out with wooden arrows. They flew nicely, and although I never killed anything with them, my brother did kill a little boar and a brumby with them. They aren't as cheap as making your own, but at least they'll get you shooting quickly. I imagine that there will be no great differences between arrows from the three shops you mentioned. I did find that the nocks on the 3Rivers Hunter arrows were not glued-on well-enough, and would blow-off upon impact with the target. That was easily fixed by glueing them back on with super glue. The Tred Barta nocks were glued-on better.
theres really nothing cheap about arrows, but as far as breaking them i would sugest some carbons. they just dont break very easy, make sure you got a big back stop behind your target to catch them strays...
Hexshafts are pretty cool.
Three Rivers or Kustom King. I've had arrows from both.Both were good quality and received them promptly.
If you want a durable wood arrow, I suggest ash (There's a reason why they make baseball bats from it).
I get my ash shafts from Allegheny Mountain Arrow Woods http://www.arrowwoods.com/index.htm They also sell finished arrows at reasonable prices.
welcome to the fun of trad archery/bowhunting, pon. :wavey:
remember, the arrow is far more important than the bow. keep that in mind always.
your trad bow form may be quite different from the compound in a lotta ways.
when relearning form for trad, i would recommend not starting off with woods as they are just not as consistent as alums or carbons, and you will need to know whether it was your form or your arrow that caused you to miss. so, i suggest using a synthetic arrow shaft material for training and practice before thinking about woods.
imo, building good wood arrows (and keeping them straight and balanced) is more critical than any synthetic arrow shaft material.
for woodies, there are lots of wood shaft genus choices and there will be good points, weak points and compromises for all. good luck.
The Hexshaft is a very tough shaft for a softwood. Took some out stumpin a couple weeks ago, slam'em into a frozen stump with a #60 longbow and they bounce half way back to ya!
Eric
hex pines are really tough and durable, plus they spine very uniformly around the arrow.
i've used braveheart internal footing jig to either add weight/stiffness (a 60gr nail) or just stiffness (1/8" diameter bamboo or oak dowel) to the front end to just about eliminate a snap off behind the point after whacking a rock head on, or slapping off a hardwood tree trunk.
another really good and promising arrow shaft are the surewood douglas fir shafts from braveheart archery. i liked the first dozen so much i ordered out 2 dozen more. i internal footed the first dozen with a 3" length of 1/8" oak dowel glued with wicked-in cya super glue.
QuoteOriginally posted by Rob DiStefano:
when relearning form for trad, i would recommend not starting off with woods as they are just not as consistent as alums or carbons, and you will need to know whether it was your form or your arrow that caused you to miss. so, i suggest using a synthetic arrow shaft material for training and practice before thinking about woods.
Thanks for the welcome!
I was going to buy alums or carbon, that was my first choice but then started thinking about shooting the local 3D serial and that is where I tougth of wood,if I shoot carbon or wood they will put me with the recurves, but then again 3d is not my main goal (bowhunting is) so I guess synthetic is still an option.
Man instead of narrowing my choices now i have more!!! what to do, what to do?? :help: :archer:
here's a good 'what to do' starter ...
trad newbie gear talk (http://www.tradgang.com/docs/newbies.html)
I would check out wapitiarchery.com and buy there tapered cedar shafts the stump shooters and make them yourself
Check out whispering wind arrows,talk to arrow smith owner Bob Burton.super nice guy,wonderful craftsman
Its a lot easier to tune aluminum arrows to your bow than either carbon or wood. Black Widow sells individual aluminum arrow shafts so you can get started without having to spend a bunch. Once you get "dialed in" with aluminum, you will have a good reference point if you decide to go to other arrow materials. Just food for thought.
Yes, buy from the sources mentioned; but learn to make your own-it is not difficult and very satisfying.
the woods I gave enrique are surewood shafts, they might help
Pon,
Just checked in and noticed you have already rec'd a wealth of good information from the best on Trad Gang.
I just happen to have some broken sets of arrows that I made.
What wieght are you looking for?
If I can be of any assistance let me know.
Buy a dozen woodies and keep them for your competitions. You can practice with aluminum or carbon, they can take more of a beating than the woodies.
I started out with aluminum arrows because they were cheaper than some others and they flew good without me having to tweek them. Then I moved to carbon so I could have a more durable arrows and I could front load them with weight...much more expensive. I discovered Surewood Shafts in my neck of the woods. They make awesome douglas fir shafts...good weight, durable, and SO MUCH FUN to make into arrows....they don't cost a lot to make.
imo, aluminum arrows are the easiest to tune and great for the learning newbie archer if only used on proper, safe butts/backstops.
Thanks everyone, I have a lot of info to check.
Gerardo does Enrique have the shafts?? I'll take them! :thumbsup:
For the beginner I recommend the Barta wilderness arrows that Ben suggested.
Good Grained Ramin Dowel Rods.
Check out the feathered shaft. Rick is a nice guy there.
Oh, I'd think hard about a bigger backstop so as not to lose too many. Took me awhile to break down and build one.