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Title: Footed Shafts! WOW!
Post by: snag on March 02, 2010, 02:00:00 PM
I just received some Surewoods that are footed with African Blackwood. They are 23/64" tapered to 11/32". Kye at Great Basin Footed Shafts does an incredible job. The footings are pinpoint sharp. I will try and post a picture of them tonight. I can't wait to make some arrows out of these beauties! Thanks Kye!!!  :clapper:
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Post by: Kanuck on March 02, 2010, 02:20:00 PM
That sounds like a great combo.  Please post photos soon.  It should give you plenty of FOC too!
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Post by: snag on March 02, 2010, 02:32:00 PM
They came out spined at 77#-81#. I hope to be able to put 160gr tips on them. I'm going to stain the doug fir with Minwax English Chestnut which is a dark stain. The grain in the fir will be dark with the area between being lighter in color. Should go good with the dark Blackwood.
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Post by: Bjorn on March 02, 2010, 02:34:00 PM
Looking forward to seeing these!
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Post by: snag on March 02, 2010, 02:41:00 PM
I just checked on the properties of Blackwood. I was surprised to see that it has a specific gravity of 1.2. That is more than Gaboon Ebony. It has a density rating of 75-83. Whereas Gaboon is 63 pcf and Ipe is 66-75 pcf. I got lucky and picked the right wood!
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Post by: Orion on March 02, 2010, 03:56:00 PM
That's almost like having a hunk of lead out there on the end.  Well done.   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
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Post by: cacciatore on March 02, 2010, 04:03:00 PM
I can't wait to see some pics.It is quite few time I am looking for good footed.
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Post by: BMejia on March 02, 2010, 04:03:00 PM
I bought some POCs footed with Cocobola from him a month or so ago. He does great work!
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Post by: snag on March 02, 2010, 04:20:00 PM
Hey BMEjia, how did you go about finishing these? With the oils in the exotic woods he recommended lightly wiping on a thin layer, let dry, do another, and so on for 2 to 3 layers. This way the oils won't bleed out onto the lighter colored wood...hopefully. Have you made them into arrows yet?
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Post by: Keefer on March 02, 2010, 04:46:00 PM
Bring on the pics so I can drool!
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Post by: M60gunner on March 02, 2010, 04:56:00 PM
I got some POC footed with purple heart. I am impressed with the footings and the shafts are straight. I haven't made them up yet. I think I will go with a sanded in finish using tru-oil.
I may cap dip also.
Tom
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Post by: lpcjon2 on March 02, 2010, 05:08:00 PM
Pics,Pics,Pics,Pics.
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Post by: snag on March 02, 2010, 06:24:00 PM
I won't be able to post them until after 7pm pacific time....
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Post by: dino on March 02, 2010, 06:35:00 PM
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q28/deanvanderhorst/FootedShaftsArrows005.jpg)

 (http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q28/deanvanderhorst/FootedShaftsArrow003.jpg)

Here are some PH footed POC shafts that I finished off a couple of years back that were made up by Kye.  He does an outstanding job footing shafts and is a true craftsman. dino
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Post by: Raging Water on March 02, 2010, 07:11:00 PM
How do you reach Kyle? Does he have a website?
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Post by: klm5121 on March 02, 2010, 07:24:00 PM
Those are some purtty arras.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Mike Gerardi on March 02, 2010, 08:22:00 PM
Kye makes some great shafts! And he is a good guy to deal with..
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Post by: snag on March 02, 2010, 11:20:00 PM
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u31/snag23/footed002.jpg)

(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u31/snag23/footed001.jpg)

These shafts are straight as can be. After he foots them he sands them. Not a wobble in the bunch!
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Post by: sagebrush on March 02, 2010, 11:31:00 PM
Man those are some nice looking shafts. Gary
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Post by: snag on March 02, 2010, 11:33:00 PM
I'm glad he tapered the tips because that Blackwood is some hard stuff!
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Post by: snag on March 02, 2010, 11:50:00 PM
wrong!  :knothead:
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Post by: americanhunter7 on March 03, 2010, 12:40:00 AM
Hey Raging Water I sent you a PM with the info on Kyle.
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Post by: mrgreenhead on March 03, 2010, 06:32:00 AM
i need info on getting some of these shafts please.
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Post by: sou-pawbowhunter on March 03, 2010, 07:30:00 AM
Wow those are beautiful! Please post some pics of the finished arrows.
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Post by: Keefer on March 03, 2010, 07:32:00 AM
I'm Drooling!
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Post by: Rob DiStefano on March 03, 2010, 07:34:00 AM
beautiful arrows!!!    :thumbsup:
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Post by: Elkchaser on March 03, 2010, 08:10:00 AM
Snag,
Those are some beautiful shafts.
Be sure and post up some pics of the finished product.
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Post by: turkey522 on March 03, 2010, 08:46:00 AM
Nice arrows Snag,have to check some out.
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Post by: Shaun on March 03, 2010, 08:55:00 AM
I find the FOC stats hard to believe. 25% FOC would be a balance point with 3/4 of the arrow on one side. Please double check and let us know. 37% would be around 4" from the point end as a balance point!!!!!

Very nice looking shafts. Excellent footing splice with long "fingers" and an extremely dense wood tip. I picked up a couple pieces of Blackwood at Kzoo and it is heavier than water - it does not float.
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Post by: snag on March 03, 2010, 09:12:00 AM
You're right Shaun...my mistake. Too tired last night and didn't put the right info into the calculator...how about 12.5! I woke up this morning thinking that can't be right. Sorry.
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Post by: Shaun on March 03, 2010, 10:17:00 AM
I still love those BW footings. Keep us posted with finished arrow pics and stats.
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Post by: BMejia on March 03, 2010, 11:06:00 AM
Snag,

I did finish them and if I knew how, I would post pics.But I finish arrows pretty basic anymore (no more cresting or fancy fletching) so they are not too exciting to look at anyway.

I used the water based sealer from 3rivers. I hand rubbed 3 coats over the footings. After wards, lightly steel wooled with super fine and dipped the shafts with 2 "squeeged" coats and one full coat. So far the sealer is holding up good.

Good Luck!
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Post by: snag on March 03, 2010, 12:43:00 PM
I stained them with Minwax english chestnut. It darkened up the grain in the fir. Looks great with the Blackwood.

Ok, now when I bareshaft them I am going to be cutting off the end of the shaft to shorten it. Instead of gluing on the nock can I just push it on and shoot it? Does it matter if the nock comes off in flight? Or should I barely glue it on or hot melt wax them on????? I usually cut down from the tip end.
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Post by: BMejia on March 03, 2010, 12:51:00 PM
Consider using rubber cement on the nock. It should hold together during flight but will be easy to take off (if it does not pop off at impact) when you need to.
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Post by: Spectre on March 03, 2010, 12:55:00 PM
What he ^ said.
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Post by: snag on March 03, 2010, 01:29:00 PM
Thanks, good idea.
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Post by: Bjorn on March 03, 2010, 01:47:00 PM
I push on points and glue or push on the nocks for bareshafting........... on a footed shaft I cut the nock end anyway-I guess everybody does.
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Post by: DesertDude on March 03, 2010, 06:04:00 PM
Outstanding!!  I love the shafts Kye makes...
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Post by: mrgreenhead on March 03, 2010, 06:11:00 PM
who is kyle were do i find him?
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Post by: lpcjon2 on March 03, 2010, 07:09:00 PM
They look great I had a pool cue that looked like that.Lucky man snag
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Post by: crookedwoody on March 03, 2010, 07:53:00 PM
just finished mine for hog hunt.footed with wenge nice arrows will order from him again

mrgreenhead kye #541 280 2906  christmas valley,oregon

great to deal with think his handle here is purple heart
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Post by: Highlandwarrior on March 03, 2010, 08:18:00 PM
Here are some a friend did for me.
(http://i332.photobucket.com/albums/m332/highlandwarrior11/trad%20gear/footedarrow001.jpg)
double length kingwood footing on a tapered doug fir shaft. with a 190gr tip they are 19% FOC, and yes that is correct!
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Post by: vtmtnman on March 03, 2010, 08:33:00 PM
Look great David.Can't wait to see the finish product. :thumbsup:
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Post by: crookedwoody on March 03, 2010, 08:49:00 PM
some pics of mine

(http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w325/chris52963/009.jpg)


(http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w325/chris52963/007.jpg)
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Post by: Stan the bow man on March 03, 2010, 09:47:00 PM
Please i would like to contact Kyle?
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Post by: Lucas K on March 03, 2010, 11:25:00 PM
I would like to get a hold of Kyle as well if anyone could send me his contact info that would be great

Lucas
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Post by: Kevin Dill on March 04, 2010, 07:37:00 AM
I contacted Kyle by email yesterday. He responded and advised me that he's not taking any orders or building any more shafts until about August 2010. He apparently does the shaft work during the fall/winter months.

Kevin
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Post by: snag on March 04, 2010, 09:45:00 AM
I thought so Kevin. He gets real busy this time of year heading into the farming season. Worth the wait!