Who makes an all black phenolic riser? What would the price be?
A number of bowyers will use phenolic if requested. As to price, each would have their own. It makes a nice riser, which is denser, and considerably heavier.
I read that it makes a real heavy riser
Bob Morrison makes one. I've got a friend who has one. It's a Cheyenne, I "think".
TradTech offers the Recon 15" riser. It's phenolic with wood accents.
Cascade Archery offers a phenolic riser in their recurves.
Ive got a Morrison cheyenne all phenolic and a 2 piece bow bolt phenolic from 7 Eyes coming.Toelke,Navaho and Shrew offers them as well.Phenolic works great with the bowbolt 2 piece TD system I do believe.I like the Morrison riser I have.Indesructable comes to mind.
Dave Beeler makes a phenolic riser on his Beeler longbows. I currently have one on order. You can go to his website or pm me and I will e-mail you a photo of a similar bow he made.
Black Widow makes an all phenolic riser for the PL, i think its about a $100 upcharge for the solid phenolic.
Do you guys notice a huge weight difference btw them and exotic woods and metal risers?
Brandon Stahl at Rose Oak Creations also offers a black phenolic risers.
I do as well. A nice way to do it is to put 1/4" slabs of exotic wood on the outsides of it for looks. Like a really big "I beam". Bocote or cocobolo looks really good with the black.
Chad
Could you guys also post some pics?
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Phenolic with cocobolo dymondwood caps on a Rose Oak "B" riser and #3 limbs.
The Chek-Mate Crusader take-down longbow has a phenolic riser.
I like it in a small riser, but not in a bigger one. It weighs a ton compared to almost any wood. Very strong stuff.
Chad
Jeremy,
That bow of your's is a beauty. Looks like a Bear Super Kodiak, but it's probably Brandon's Super Wildcat.
Joe, look a little closer ;)
It's actually Brandon's "B" riser with #3 limbs. It'll be getting a refit with the yokes and latches to convert it to a true "Bear" T/D when I get the time, but yeah, I wanted it to look like the early Super Kodiaks.
I asked Black Widow awhile back, and they said they can make one. Check their website and look under the bow of your choice for the cost of a riser alone.
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Not the best picture but this Big River longbow has a solid Phenolic riser adds a little weight but shoots smooth.
Here's a Hummingbird that has a phenolic riser. Also have a Bob Lee that has it in the riser as well, and I quite like the heft of both- not to mention the aesthetics. Yes, it does add weight to the bow, but not 'a ton'. Can't give an accurate answer, but on average, I would say no more than about 30% increase, and this is only when it is used in a substantial manner as in this bow.
The extra heft and mass give me a sense of greater stability. I get the same thing from some of my bows that have alot of ebony in them. I'm largely a 1 pc recurve shooter, and prefer a bow with a bit more weight. I find the combination of a good realease and the solidity of a slightly heavier riser to be a very effective combination that works nicely for me.
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Bob Lee I believe wiil on reguest. I have shot one and it was great.
A friend brought a new Predator with phenolic in the riser (grip half). It had a high gloss finish and I couldn't believe how great it looked! The black phenolic looked like obsidian. While I really liked the beautiful finish though I probably wouldn't buy one like it because it is just so shiny.
Morrison Mini ILF... the best and completely bomb proof.....IMHO
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God Bless, Pierre
My next TallTines is going to have an all phenolic riser. Brian has a couple like that he is working on right now.
I have shot a solid phenolic riser from a well know bowyer. I didn't think it was stiff enough. IMO ya need some glue lines in it to make it shoot right for me. I shot another one that had two glass (or carbon strips). it was nice and stiff.
rusty
If the riser is fully phenolic should you see any type of grain through it? Or is there a all black diamond wood on the market?
We offer black phenolic and black DymondLux in all of our risers now. Pricing depends on how much phenolic you want.
Mike
Jeremy,sweet looking T/D,Brandon makes some very nice bows!
A Shrew lil Favorite w/ all Phenolic riser I used to own. I have a Morrison Shawnee "B" riser with all Phenolic riser and Bacote overlays, "C" Bamboo limbs on the way from Morrison as I type, I will post pics later for you.
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Thanks,
Froggy
Check out our Anneewakee Addiction recurve. We use Phenolic in the risers.
www.kanatiquiver.com (http://www.kanatiquiver.com)
Does anyone know where to get solid blocks of phenolic suitable for risers in the correct dimensions?
This company will cut to size what you want. Great to deal with. I talked to Chris. Here is the link.
Plastis International
http://www.plasticsintl.com/
Inrut do you know the actual product name you order from them?
I think that Roy Hall makes them too. I know he made one for me about three years ago.
Mike Treadway uses it as well.
Bill
I have a shrew classic hunter with carbon foam limbs and a bow bolt that has a black phenolic handle. The shrew has less mass than a lot of bows and Ron recommended going to the phenolic for a more substantial handle to contain the bow bolt. I think this was the right choice and would do it again.
I saw one of Cascades phenolic risers.
Are we all talking about linen phenolic? Or using phenolic to also describe a black synthetic material other than with linen in its makeup?
This is what was the material used for the Cascade is and you can see the fine lines in the black- very elegant.
Joshua, wondering because he loves the linen one.
Here is one from Bob Morrison ...
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