Guys, I just purchased a 60" 54@27" Whisperstik Mojostik. I am going to set up some carbons for it, but am considering making some woodies also. I draw 27", so bow weight will be 54# with a fast flight string. Bow is cut to center approximately. I would like the finished arrow at least 28", preferably 29". I was thinking 70-75 spine with 160 points, and 65-70 with 125 grain points. Haven't decided which broadhead I'd use so both setups are an option right now. I will also probably order some tapered shafts to make them. Just want some input from some of you more experienced woody guys out there. Thanks, Mark
maybe a little stiff.
I shoot a 60# 62" Tomahawk with TS1 string and a 27" draw.
My wood arrows are 55-60 spine 29" long 5.5" shields and a 125 head. By bow is cut a 16th from center
Do a search for Miller's spine calculator and run the numbers - easy stuff. H
60-65# will probably cover both arrow point weights. Five pounds more would work as well. Even 10 more. Most modern bows with fast flite strings will shoot overspined woodies quite well.
I shoot about the same setup and draw 53lbs at 27 , and use 60-65 cut at 29 with 125 grs, I am shooting cedar shafts and currently bought some sureshafts , they are great!!!!!
Thanks for all of the info guys. Gerardo, Are your surewood shafts tapered or parallel?
Flatlander, I dont think Surewood offers a tapered shaft, you would have to find a vendor that does it or DIY.
Eric
Dave Doran at Archery-Past.net carries Surewoods and does tapering also. He's a good guy to deal with.
Every person is different, every bow is different.
Most arrow guys can get close, but if you want her down to the gnats nuts, Bareshaft test your bow, with the length shaft that you want to shoot.
There are so many variables, how deep a hook do you have on the string, are you a snap shooter, do you anchor, and hold, how deep is the shelf cut in, etc., etc.
Another guy can have exactly the same specs as you do, and shoot a different spined arrow.
I had a guy here last fall, 53lb Kota recurve, when we were done bareshafting, he ended up needing an 85-89 lb shaft.
Go figure
Jim
Stu's calculator says 70# @ 28.75" w/ 160gr tips will work like a charm with your specs.
Well I'll tell you what I shoot and you can take it from there. I had a Black Widow PLV. It was 47#s @ my 27" draw. Widow recommended 60/65# spine . I cut my arrows to around 28- 28 1/4. They were Nock Tapered Sitka Spruce from Suzanne St Charles 4- 4" feathers with 125 grain point. When I decided to shoot Woodies out of my 2 Mohawks. I decided to get a 3 arrow test kit from Suzanne. Best 20 buck or so I spent. I ordered a 50/55 a 55/60 and a 60/65 all cut to 28 1/4 4- 4" feathers nock tapered with 125 grain field points. Now my Mohawks are 49#s and 50#s @ my 27" draw. I found that the 55/60's flew like lazer guided darts out of those 2 bows.Suzanne said they spined @ exactly 57#s. Perfect. The 60/65#s flew pretty darn good too. I think if they had a 145 grain point on them they would have been perfect too. That reminds me gotta get some more for turkey season. My advice is to order a 3 arrow test kit from one of our sponsors and check them out.
Thanks again for the information guys. I may just have to order a test kit after all.
I have to add. Larry from Lost Nation wrote this in his catalog. What spine do I need? Determine draw weight of your bow at your draw length. Measure your draw length and add 1" to get your preferred arrow length.Add 5#s to your draw weight for every 1" over 28"s or subtract 5#s for every 1" under 28"s.Now add 5#s for a fast flight type string such as D-97 . Add another 5#s if your point is 150 or more The resulting # will be close to the best spine for your arrows.If your bow is cut to center or past center as most recurves are this # should work. If your bow is not cut to centewr such as a self bow [or some longbows] you will need to subtract 5 more #s. Thank you Larry @ Lost Nation for this simple formula! It works!
I just speak from my own experience, shooting my own bow. A cut to center bow will shoot a wider range of spines. I always bareshaft each batch of arrows I build for myself. I can make arrows that shoot great from 70# up to 85# out of a recurve that is 55#@28" by adjusting length and point weight. By going with what Larry says I would have to buy 65# or 70# spined shafts for good arrow flight....wrong. Not all situations work out the same.
I'll tell ya what,I shoot 55-59# tapered shafts from kustom king with 190gr grizzlies out of my 53# northern mist they weigh in at around 625gr. and fly sweet! :thumbsup: :jumper: