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Title: Is this good enough
Post by: spotteddog on February 18, 2010, 05:41:00 PM
Just wondering if this is good enough or do i need to tune a little more there is a bare shaft in the group of fletched arrows first time I tried OL method done at about 19 yards
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg113/spotteddog_photos/group.jpg)Thanks alot Philip
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: ArkyBob on February 18, 2010, 05:47:00 PM
What?  No Robinhood.  I would be ashamed!!!!

BOB
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: lpcjon2 on February 18, 2010, 06:31:00 PM
Can you get them a little tighter,I like my fletching to get ripped off.As you can see in my avatar    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: ishoot4thrills on February 18, 2010, 06:32:00 PM
Excellent! I, too, like using the method of tuning as described by Adcock.   :readit:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: HATCHCHASER on February 18, 2010, 06:36:00 PM
Backup to 30 yards and shoot. I bet they are a fuzz stiff,if you are a righty, but you're not gonna get much closer.  That's some fine shooting.
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: Chris Shelton on February 18, 2010, 06:38:00 PM
the two bare ones up top look a bit tail high??  Or is that just the camera angle?
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: fireball31 on February 18, 2010, 06:38:00 PM
I don't know how far out your are.  It looks pretty good.  Your a little week but the fletching will cure that.  I would say you are a tad knock high though.  Good shooting though
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: FerretWYO on February 18, 2010, 06:45:00 PM
fletch the rest and shoot them.
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: Orion on February 18, 2010, 07:19:00 PM
Keep working at it.  You'll get them in there.
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: jsweka on February 18, 2010, 07:22:00 PM
I wish I could group them that good.
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: GMMAT on February 18, 2010, 07:40:00 PM
Honest question....

What could you possibly gain by tweaking them further....for targets?  And....if you shoot groups like that all the time....I'm in awe.
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: spotteddog on February 18, 2010, 07:44:00 PM
Hey yall i am not try to be a smart butt I just didnt know if thats what you are looking for when you do OL Method I didnt know how close they need to be.Philip
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: mjdglobal on February 18, 2010, 07:48:00 PM
Unless you stabbed the arrows in the target with your hand I'd say your doing pretty good.  Nice shootin.
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: xtrema312 on February 18, 2010, 07:53:00 PM
Well a lot of people say you should be low and weak with your bare shafts so you have your nock too high and you're too stiff.  I would probably just shoot them that way.  What you really need to do now is shoot BH's and see what they say.
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: Robert Honaker on February 18, 2010, 07:57:00 PM
Yes, try some broadheads. If they shoot that good leave it alone.
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: ishoot4thrills on February 18, 2010, 08:01:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Chris Shelton:
the two bare ones up top look a bit tail high??  Or is that just the camera angle?
When using the method as outlined by O.L. Adcock, you go by how your bare shafts group in relation to your fletched arrows instead of how your nocks are positioned in the target. Also, what your target is made of has an effect on how your nock position is in the target butt.
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: wollybear on February 18, 2010, 08:04:00 PM
that just might work  :bigsmyl:    :clapper:
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: sendero25 on February 18, 2010, 08:05:00 PM
This is 19 yards?
Unless you plan on taking 50 yard plus shots while hunting leave it alone! It is more than good enough!
Great shooting!
Most "tweak" and "tune" until they are blue in the face and never shoot that good!
Go hunting!
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: BEN on February 18, 2010, 08:16:00 PM
Leave it alone, fletch the rest, and SHOOT!!

If I could do that EVERY time at 19-20 yds,I'd be a happy man.
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: stykbow67 on February 18, 2010, 10:51:00 PM
Well, I'd say if they hit where you were lookin then fletch'em up and go huntin, thats some fine shootin!!
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on February 18, 2010, 11:05:00 PM
Fletch 'em and hunt!
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: beaver#1 on February 18, 2010, 11:08:00 PM
better than my groups on a good day.
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: helo on February 18, 2010, 11:12:00 PM
:notworthy:  Great shooting I also would try broadheads. Good job
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: Bjorn on February 18, 2010, 11:16:00 PM
I would be very happy with that result!
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: SveinD on February 19, 2010, 02:38:00 AM
Arrows are good, but I'd lower the nockpoint, just a tad.. I guess broadheads should correct the slight stiffness..
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: stringstretcher on February 19, 2010, 06:57:00 AM
For shooting groups like that, I would have to see some proof that changing anything would be better????   Great shooting
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: Guru on February 19, 2010, 07:14:00 AM
Well unless spotteddog is left handed, I see a little nock high and slightly weak...which will make for a very forgiving arrow when fletched...plus they're all hitting together so, it looks to me like you're good to go...

If this is what they're consistently doing, I wouldn't change a thing....

But maybe just tweak the nock a little lower to see if they come in a bit flatter...
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: James on laptop on February 19, 2010, 07:27:00 AM
Fine for shooting targets just like it is.I would up the point weight a little if hunting.When mine comes out like that useing 125gn points I shoot 3d just like it is and use 175gn points for hunting.50 gns will weaken the spine about right so they won't be stiff.That tune at 50yds will put your bareshafts left of center over 6".If you short draw any at all like happens when you hunt they will fly left with broadheads. jmho
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on February 19, 2010, 07:28:00 AM
Kepp practicing....you'll get there
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: SpikeMaster on February 19, 2010, 07:59:00 AM
That's excellent shooting. Not trusting my memory I checked O.L.'s tuning guide and according to that bare shafts to the left of the fletched shafts mean they are stiff. That is if you are a right hand shooter. If anything the bare shafts should be slightly to the right, which shows weak. Feathers would stiffen them up. You're close enough that you could just not do anymore bare shaft tuning and move on to tuning fletched shafts with broadheads.
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: twitchstick on February 19, 2010, 09:01:00 AM
Fletch them up!
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: Shakes.602 on February 19, 2010, 10:59:00 AM
Excellent Group!! Did I Miss the Distance they were Shot From somewhere??
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: pete p on February 19, 2010, 11:42:00 AM
doesnt count....shoulda taken that one step back and made it 20yds
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: Shooty1 on February 19, 2010, 11:47:00 AM
Don't sweat it: we all get a couple of fliers like that now and then.
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: bridog on February 19, 2010, 01:31:00 PM
I agree with Robert - Broadheads will tell the story you really want to see...
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: Chris Shelton on February 19, 2010, 03:12:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by bridog:
I agree with Robert - Broadheads will tell the story you really want to see...
I thought you werent suppose to bare shaft broadheads?
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: Chris Shelton on February 19, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by ishoot4thrills:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by Chris Shelton:
the two bare ones up top look a bit tail high??  Or is that just the camera angle?
When using the method as outlined by O.L. Adcock, you go by how your bare shafts group in relation to your fletched arrows instead of how your nocks are positioned in the target. Also, what your target is made of has an effect on how your nock position is in the target butt. [/b]
:knothead:    :bigsmyl:  , duh, the fletched shafts in the picture would have been my clue  :biglaugh:  , I normally do both at the same time!  Is that bad  :eek:    :confused:
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: riivioristo on February 19, 2010, 03:33:00 PM
Well - you are kidding me ? 19 yards and you can cover the group with your hand ? You are a exellent marksman!!
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: Raging Water on February 19, 2010, 08:57:00 PM
Uh, Dude? I see a little light between the arrows. Keep trying! Someday, all that practice will pay off with a tight grouping.
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: Chub on February 19, 2010, 09:24:00 PM
i wish i could get that aaaawsome of grouping at 10-13yrds great testing good results !
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: amar911 on February 19, 2010, 10:19:00 PM
I would be embarrassed to put a picture on TradGang of any group I shot that was so spread out. Shame on you.    :bigsmyl:    :archer:    :clapper:  

Allan
Title: Re: Is this good enough
Post by: Brently on February 20, 2010, 12:44:00 AM
You are doing something wrong!  I need to teach you how to shoot.  Those arrows are too close together, you need to spread them out better like I do.