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Title: Hitting the weight room
Post by: Bama Recurve on February 17, 2010, 09:43:00 PM
I've spent alot of time working out. Just curious what some of ya'll consider the best workouts for shooting the bow?
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: smokin joe on February 17, 2010, 09:47:00 PM
Good for you, Bama. I have been working out for years -- I'm an older guy. I think the cable row is especially great for archers. But really, any fitness routine is good for your ability to enjoy archery and the outdoors. You need strong triceps in your bow arm, good strong legs to hike through the woods, etc.
Keep it up. Staying with it is the key.
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: mrpenguin on February 17, 2010, 09:51:00 PM
Honestly, archery uses pretty specific muscles in the deep back which control the scapulas... if one draw correctly... for instance... You may have seen John K Rambo at said Archery story point his 70# compound to the sky to 'break it'... this is WRONG.  One should be able to draw a bow straight back.  If not, its too heavy.  I checked out "Precision Archery" amongst several other 'coaching' books to use with my kids (I run an archery club at my school) and this is something I learned.  The best exercise is to get a bow that is a little heavier (5-10#) and do slow, methodical reps with it.  Most exercise physiologists confirm that between 12-20 reps builds strength and anything more build endurance.  Depending on your goals, you can organize your workout.  Aside from this exercise, simply shooting everyday, 12 arrows, will help.  Focus on form and slow methodical drawing of the bow. Other than that, push ups, pull ups, and a stable core (crunches, planks, etc...) will provide a great base the endurance of hunting and shooting the stick and string.

Hope that helps...

  :archer:
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: split arrow on February 17, 2010, 10:16:00 PM
Good post! I normally shoot a bow weight of 50 to 55# and to build strength I have a bow that is 65#. I practice drawing it to anchor slowly and then slowly let it down. It is amazing how much of a difference it makes when shooting the lighter poundage bows. The muscles that you use for shooting bow are hard to work out in the gym. plus you look dumb drawing dumbbells to your face   :knothead:
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: jonathan creason on February 17, 2010, 10:22:00 PM
Face pulls work the lower traps, rear delts, and rotator cuff really well.
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: straitera on February 17, 2010, 10:31:00 PM
Specific weights with recumbent bike daily 30-60 minutes. IMO, shoulder, neck, back, & triceps need attention for archery benefit. Legs & air also for hunting. Near season, bow exercises. PM for more.
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: Raging Water on February 17, 2010, 10:38:00 PM
You might want to take a look at this thread. Lots of good info there.

http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=085035;p=1

If you look at the US Flight Champ Marlon Torres he does reps with his bow. He is pulling a 120# War Bow. Insane stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgyXYnfPFQc&feature=email
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: Bama Recurve on February 17, 2010, 11:00:00 PM
I do like to lean over a bench and pull dumbell to the side of my face and try holding it for a few seconds between each rep.
Last time i was at the gym a guy asked me why was i pulling it to my face? He was wearing a backwards camo hat, so i told him i want to start shooting a heavier recurve.
He said, "What the heck is a recurve...?"
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: Ground Hunter on February 17, 2010, 11:49:00 PM
I've found the TRX trainer great for working out for a heaver bow.  H
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: mjdglobal on February 18, 2010, 01:06:00 AM
All upper body and core work will help.  I think rear-delt and back(especially rowing) exercises are beneficial for archery.  Try bent-over lateral raises, reverse pec-deck flyes and reverse dumbbell flyes for rear delts.  All back exercises will also help, but I think the various 'rows' are good for shooting.  Try barbell rows, seated cable rows, one-arm dumbbell rows, t-bar rows, leverage rows etc.  Have fun.  Don't get too sore before a hunt or a shoot LOL.
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: crotch horn on February 18, 2010, 01:18:00 AM
I work out with a personal trainer 4x a week. Two upper & 2 lower body work outs. Was sick for quite a while and very weak. After two years and many ups & downs healthwise I have my strength back. He has told me that I have very strong tricepts and legs. Nothing I do with him comes close to shooting a heavier bow to get stronger with my shooting. I draw my heavy bow 50-100 times. Some just anchoring some shooting then switch to my regular bow. Feels light and easy to be consistant with anchoring and such. A combination like I do is the best way IMHO. I also bikeride 15 miles a day on days off from work when the weather allows.
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: highpoint forge on February 18, 2010, 01:26:00 AM
Do draw that bow 5-10 times. lift weights 12-20 reps, an rotator cuff exercises........
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: Earthdog on February 18, 2010, 01:46:00 AM
I started going to a gym last year,simply for over all fitness reasons.
I asked this same question,an you know not one of those so called pro's had a clue what I was on about or how to approach it.
So I bought a 60lb longbow just to make shooting my 50lb recurve easier.
Just a half dozen draw and let downs + a few shots.
Every second day and it's doing the job.
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: Panzer II on February 18, 2010, 04:56:00 AM
I just started working out again on my bowflex
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: LongStick64 on February 18, 2010, 05:12:00 AM
Kettlebells and using the time proven power lifting routines, squats, deadlifts, clean and press, snatch press. As well as pushups till I puke and as many pullups I can do.

When the weather warms up, it's trail running time.

All of that just to get one shot on a Whitetail.
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: Biggie Hoffman on February 18, 2010, 06:57:00 AM
Push-ups.
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: Got2strum on February 18, 2010, 07:01:00 AM
Body weight circuit training and pyramid workouts here. Throw on a weighted backpack or vest for more challenge.

Oh and for drawing the bow I incorporate some sort of workouts doing just that, drawing the bow.
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: brill16hockey on February 18, 2010, 08:27:00 AM
I have been weight training through high school, and college athletics.  I also began competitive bodybuilding 2 years ago.  That being said, repping out 130lb dumbell rows will make it easier to shoot a heavier bow, but nothing can match the exact motion of shooting, like pulling a bow will.  Lift weights to improve your life, and look good.  Get a heavy bow and hold at full draw to increase your draw weight.
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: LimbLover on February 18, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
Free motion training. Protect your joint by not overdoing it with heavy weight. I played football in college and my joints are wrecked. You have to take care of your shoulders and most people who pile on the weight have very poor form.

In fact I recently cut my training in half and started focusing on higher reps with light weight and perfect form. I do a lot of pushups when shooting at home between volleys. It helps!

Those large rubber tubes work great too. In all honesty...I've seen guys half my size shoot those heavy bows. I think a lot of it is how much you can take with your fingers.
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: ripforce56 on February 18, 2010, 08:47:00 AM
I work out 6 days a week No heavy weights anymore just got over a shoulder injury that did not allow me to shoot my bow for almost a month! Added a lot more cardio (ellipical machine) to my workout and  this is the best I felt in years, never really liked cardio before, but I am sold on it now! I also started using resistance bands these work well to simulate drawing a bow, really works the back muscles!
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: centaur on February 18, 2010, 08:49:00 AM
I got one of those things that you stick in a door and do pullups; it can also be used for pushups. For an old guy like me, it is plenty of resistance and is good for bow shooting muscles. Hiking hills and mountains and mountain biking take care of aerobics.
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: jonathan creason on February 18, 2010, 09:20:00 AM
Just in case anybody is wondering, this is what face pulls look like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XjAgPZcrpQ

They really balance out and help protect the shoulder joint.
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: Chris O on February 18, 2010, 02:13:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Bama Recurve:
I do like to lean over a bench and pull dumbell to the side of my face and try holding it for a few seconds between each rep.
Last time i was at the gym a guy asked me why was i pulling it to my face? He was wearing a backwards camo hat, so i told him i want to start shooting a heavier recurve.
He said, "What the heck is a recurve...?"
hahaha, thats great! Heaven forbid you had to hold back more than 25 pounds at full draw!
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: sleepingbear on February 18, 2010, 02:55:00 PM
A strong core is first (planks, leg lifts, crunches).  I like cables for wide grip rows (back and forearms) and pull downs waist level with arms tight to the body (triceps). Dumbbells for delts with manageable weight and high reps so you don't screw up your shoulders (i'm getting older). Like Longstick says, you cant beat push ups till u puke for overall strength.
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: Deadbolt on February 19, 2010, 11:03:00 PM
Pushups till you puke does no more then increase your endurance not strength.  You dont do more weight you simply do more reps.  

mjdglobal has great advise.

The best thing is plyometrics, free weights, bands, cables, and keeping the core and stabilization muscle strong.  If you are working soley for increasing your archery strength unilateral movements are best.
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: LoneWolf73 on February 20, 2010, 02:21:00 AM
Pulling a heavier bow gets my vote. Do continue to work out the whole body for fitness, but the muscle groups for pulling a bow are unique to that act. I would add pulling the heavier bow on both sides and no arrow concentrating on form.
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: bentpole on February 20, 2010, 07:53:00 AM
Incline pushups [can't flat bench or do military presses anymore torn rotator cuff] and dips.Basically anything for back and shoulders.
Title: Re: Hitting the weight room
Post by: reddogge on February 20, 2010, 10:27:00 AM
I'm 66 and still going to the gym 3 times per week.  I keep my muscles toned and it helps in archery, golf, and general well being.  All men and women need some sort of resistance training throughout their lives.