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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Flying Dutchman on February 14, 2010, 01:25:00 PM
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Still busy with my search for a new longbow for 3D shooting. It looks like the Cari-bow Peregrine has it all. Still it is a tuff descision for me,especially because it is a LOT of money and I can't test-drive one since I live in The Netherlands.
What I read about the BW PL's is that they shoot fast and draw smooth too. I also read that the BW's ar build like a tank. But I think the Caribow craftmanship is also very good isn't it?
Decisions. decisions.....
Any Thoughts???
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Never shot a Cari-bow but i have a PSA X and its a great hunting bow and also great for 3-D shooting.
You just cant go wrong with a Widow, i own some very high end bows and my Widow is my go to bow.
I dry fired it this fall by accident and it jumped out of my hands and landed on the bottom limb tip and bounced off a 15ft porch onto a pile of gravels.
I almost threw up on the spot when i was walking down the stairs to retrieve my new bow.
There wasnt a scratch on the bow and it still shoots darts. The finish they put on there bows must be the best out there, just my 2 cents.
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i sold my Blackwidows. i love my Peregrine which i still have. You couldn't go wrong with either one. Customer service with each company is excellent..more options available with the Cari-bow. Decisions, decisions. Buy one of each and sell the one you don't like! There you go!
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I don't have experience with the BW, but I do have with the Peregrine. I have a review at www.peteward.com (http://www.peteward.com) in the trad review pages that may help.
Pete
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Originally posted by rastaman:
Buy one of each and sell the one you don't like! There you go!
You are a bad man Rastaman! :help: but thank you once again for thinking with me. I also think Abe offers a LOT more options... His woods and veneers are second to none. I just saw his Pecky etimoe veneer it's awesome....
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Originally posted by Pete W:
I don't have experience with the BW, but I do have with the Peregrine. I have a review at www.peteward.com (http://www.peteward.com) in the trad review pages that may help.
Pete
Thank you Pete, I read it several times! Great review!
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To me they are very different bows. In my hands the Peregrine was much smoother, faster, and dead in the hand. It has a lighter feel with more or a light action in the limbs. The BW was ok, but more beefy, heavier, and more rugged in the way it feels and shoots. I had a lot more thumb in the hand with the BW, but could be the way they were tuned. Very different looks and grips also.
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Thnx extrema, smooth is very important for me, since I suffer from MS and my fingers hurt quickly. I need a smooth draw.
So you could say that the Peregrine is more "sophisticated" and faster? I know the Peregrine has the thumb-rest, so the grips will be totally different indeed. Still don't know how "ruggeddized" the pergrine is???
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i don't baby any of my bows. Mine has been known to "fall" out of my tree when i am ready to get down! It is as rugged as any bow i have ever owned, and i've owned one or two.
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I agree with the posts above. Unless you plan to abuse it, I'd vote for the Peregrine. Some of Abe's work is just amazing.
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If it was my desicion, I'd opt for the Peregrine.. Seems to me there is always a couple of Widows on the classifieds, but seldom a Caribow. Which also makes it easier to pick up a suitable BW at any given time. People tend to cling to their Caribows..
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A lot of votes for the Peregrine I see....
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I dropped my Lonewolf onto my Cari-bow from 25 feet up in a tree. My bow was resting on a log so it had no "give" like it would on the soft earth. Gouged the limb but the bow still shot perfect. I'm not easy on equipment but the Cari-bow stood up to everything I threw at it.
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BW Recurves are rearly smooth bows with a very good overall performance, but I think when it comes to LB there are many bows of other brands which are by far faster, smoother, whith less handshock and even cheaper.
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Please dont rule out roberstson in your search for a longbow some of the best I have ever shot bar none.
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Abe Penner craftmanship is second to none.
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im not a widow basher...shot my biggest deer with a widow, but, have you seen Abe's work up close? widows are nice. caribow's are works of art. cant compare a cnc bow with sometihng that comes out of the hands of a master craftsman IMO.
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I don't own either bow but have shot both brands. For me the Widow shoots excellent, but there is something extra special with the Caribows. Tough choice, good luck.
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I own them both. The Widow is easy to shoot, almost any arrow comes out of it very clean with little tuning. It is a PLV, next to the Peregrin it looks awfully plain. I know a lot of guys are strictly performance and not into looks at all.
The Peregrin is very tricked out with a lot of extras and a down right work of art. They are the same weight but the performance of the Peregrin is noticeably better, very smooth, and a little more finicky to tune but not bad either.
I have never chrono'd a bow and hope I never do but you can tell the difference.
With all that being said I like them both, good luck with a tough decision.
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Widow
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I've shot and owned both, sold the BWs and probably own over a dozen of Abe's bows, each is a work of art. All on my Cari-bows look awesome and shoot great.
Good luck on your decision
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(http://i711.photobucket.com/albums/ww111/elkherder/caribowtuktu-1.jpg)
i too have had quite a few widows.i have not picked up another bow since i bought this cari-bow tuktu one piece.....unreal bows man.you cannot go wrong with a cari-bow...they are an awesome looking awesome performing bow. :readit:
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i will also add that cari-bows are still handmade and they sure look sweet.my tuktu is very fast compared to my plx but its a recurve also.
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Your Tuktu really looks great! The Tuktu is an option for me too... So they shoot great and does it have a smooth draw?
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you'll love it man.smoother than my plx widow and with this grip its impossible to grab the handle wrong.this is by far the best bow i have and i really did not like one piece recurves but i guess i was wrong.i have another one ordered just like this one but with horn tips and horn on handle and thumbrest.if you get a tuktu you'll love it i promise.
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i also ordered my new one with bamboo cores which will make it even smoother and faster.(i cannot imagine these being any smoother but it will be)
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do all of the Cari-bow long bows have a "thumb rest"?? Cant tell from the web site.
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So many bows - so little time. Try both. H
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I have never owned a black widow bow but I have two caribow longbows.
I have absolutely no hesitation to recommend Abe's bows as highly as can possibly be recommended!
Hmmmm...telling everybody might mean I'm going to have to wait longer for my next one...hmmmm...and maybe the price is going to go up...hmmmm....oh well, it's too late now!
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Originally posted by Lamey:
do all of the Cari-bow long bows have a "thumb rest"?? Cant tell from the web site.
Lamey: I have shot the Cari-bow Silver Fox & Wolverine longbows, both had thumb rests. I can't speak to the Featherhorn or Peregrin (others on here will know for sure) but I assume they also have thumb rests. Cari-bow grips are amazing, I'm currently saving up.
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I have been hunting with a Cari-Bow for over 15 years,and I own many of them, I even have one of the original "featherhorns". You can not go wrong with a Cari-bow. And Abe has always been on time with the due date on an ordered bow. I ordered a bow from anouther well known bowyer in the summer time,and I was told the bow was going to be done by the end of september 09......Guess what, still waiting. Good thing I paid for the bow in full. I think I am going to ask for my money back and order a wolverine.
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you have to request and pay a little extra for the thumbrest but its well worth it.
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No, the thumbrest is standard and doesn't cost anything extra.It costs only extra if you want it with an antler overlay...
Now stop this thread! This is going to cost me some serious money and Abe sold already two bows from his new inventory I just saw.... :(
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Or Ad you can choose the Cape Buffalo "horn" instead of antler...it looks really nice. :cool:
You should just go ahead and place your order now & get the Black Widow also. Then you can do a head to head comparison and stop all of this supposition!
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Ok in that case I will order an Howard Hill too, just to see what they do....
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howard hill? howard hill?? nawwwwwwwwww...
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wow i may be changing my horn one to the cape buff...that will look way to sweet with the coco and wenge
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Originally posted by Flying Dutchman:
No, the thumbrest is standard and doesn't cost anything extra.It costs only extra if you want it with an antler overlay...
Now stop this thread! This is going to cost me some serious money and Abe sold already two bows from his new inventory I just saw.... :(
I'm not surprised that the Wolverine with Thuya Burl/Chechen Diamond seriers riser with Redwood burl Veneer is gone, what a beautiful bow. Someday I'll own one, hopefully sooner than later.
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Yeah that Wolverine was a beauty indeed.....
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What is the mass weight on a perengie?
Is the shelf cut to center?
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The shelf is not cut to center. i'm guessing 1 1/2 lbs for the weight of the peregrine.
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Either is a good bow. I have shot a PL, and with any luck a PLx is in my future :help: .
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i have a plx.in my honest opinion my tuktu one piece blows it away.it is a recurve but is i think smoother and way faster.jm2c
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There was a Cari-Bow Snowbird that was for sale recently. Not sure of it's status, but it was listed at a very reasonable price. Nice bow, similar to the Peregrine as it was it's predecessor. Not quite as much deflex in the limbs.... quieter than the Peregrine, but not quite as fast. I owned that bow at one time and it's a nice shooter.
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That Cari-bow Snowbird is on page four of the classifieds. It doesn't say sold on the add so it might still be available, might be worth checking out. It would let you try one for minimal investment. Good luck.
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Originally posted by PastorSteveHill:
Is the shelf cut to center?
For the Peregrine the shelf is cut 1/16 past center. So with the beavertail strike plate it will come to exactly center cut I guess.