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Title: Wool
Post by: gokartjon on February 13, 2010, 06:58:00 PM
Hello all!

I am new to this forum and new to traditional archery.

I am looking to purchase some wool. I am really leaning towards Bemidji Woolen Mills products. I know they sew some products for Gray Wolf Woolens, and some other companies.

I have three questions:

1.) I am first off looking for some reviews or inputs of their products. There isnt alot of info out their on theur products. Anyone have positive or negative experiences/input?
2.) And, next I would like some recomendations of which shirt/jacket/coat to go with. I really like the looks of the Voyageur Jac Coat.
3.) And, anyone have any comparison of their 100% virgin wool vs. their 85/15 blend?
4.) Lastly, any pointers of which of their plais/patterns/colors to go with? (they dont offer much for "earthy" tones..)

Thanks for all info and input!!

Jon
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: leatherneck on February 13, 2010, 07:15:00 PM
Contact "whip" and he can guide you in the direction of Gray Wolf. I don't know squat about them but have heard good things. If you need some info on Sleeping Indian or King of The Mountain wool, I could try and help you. Good luck.

Mike
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: DannyBows on February 13, 2010, 07:18:00 PM
Welcome to the campfire! I can't help you with the wool you are asking about, but I'm sure someone that can will be along. You might check out the Asbell wool products. Alot of members here have given great feedback on it, and I'm going to get some for next season. Very good prices too. There is a banner above for the site.
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: katie on February 13, 2010, 07:30:00 PM
Don't have any info on the companies you are asking about.  I hunt in the grey longbunter shirt from Ron LaClair and Shrew bows.  I love it!  Wore it out in o-40 degree temps this season.  Just change what goes under it depending on the temp.  Not too bulky, great fit, kept me warm and dry in wet snow, American made.  Could not ask for more!
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: jefffunff on February 13, 2010, 07:36:00 PM
the longhunter shirt is outstanding!
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: Pinecone on February 13, 2010, 07:53:00 PM
Well, I just happen to be the Queen of Wool...LOL!   :bigsmyl:  I own Bemedji, Gray Wolf, Swandri, KOM, Filson and others.  Yes, I love wool...

Now, back to your questions.  The warmest wool coat I own is the insulated Bemedji coat with the map/game pocket.  It is amazing!  The down side from a hunting point of view is that the coat's lining makes it too noisy to bow hunt big game in. For other purposes, however, it is super.

I also own a green and black Bemidji shirt/jac in the 85/15 wool blend.  The wool is heavy, the weave is nice and tight, and it is a durable jacket.  Used alone, it works well unless the weather is getting pretty cold.  In that event, adding an additional layer of wool (shirt or vest perhaps)and you'll stay warm in a wide variety of temperatures.  Personally, I think that this garment is a good buy for the money.  In addition, it is dead quiet.

Gray Wolf makes some nice stuff....as does KOM.  With these items, you get the benefit of camo and can add custom features.  They are both excellent and I use mine (in addition to the Bemidji shirt jac) every year while bowhunting.  They have proven to be invaluable tools.

If you have any other questions, just ask and I'll try to help.

Claudia
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: GingivitisKahn on February 13, 2010, 08:54:00 PM
Do yourself a favor and (as has been mentioned) check out Ron's Longhunter shirt and/or the Asbell pullovers.  I have one of each and love them.
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: gokartjon on February 13, 2010, 08:56:00 PM
I am somewhat knowledgeable about wool. And, I have looked into the various products listed above. I have talked to the owner of Sleeping Indian and Gray Wolf Woolens as well. I just don't have the cash right now to sink into Gray Wolf, Sleeping Indian, or KOM.
The owner of Gray Wolf told me that some of their Northwoods line are sewn by Bemidji. And, I called and talked to a rep at Bemidji. They were very pleasant, have a lifetime waranty, and the price seems right.
I was wondering if anyone here had experience with their products. I like the looks of their products, and they make longs (which I need). I was hoping someone had some good and some bad to say about their product.

I will have to look more into the LaClair and Asbell products. I have read up on them a little bit...

Thanks
Jon
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: koger on February 13, 2010, 09:22:00 PM
For layering garments go to Goodwill, Volunteers of America or other Thrift stores. Today picked up 2 nice wool sweaters, a LL Bean and Lands end for $1 each, the LL bean was brand new. Wool doesnt sell well overall, they are usually glad to get rid ofit. My wife recently picked me up a Dark green/blue blaid wool coat, with quilted liner at a thirft store, new for $2 on the closeout stuff!
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: Bowferd on February 13, 2010, 09:37:00 PM
koger, I'm with you 100%. I've put up some good $ for wool that I just had to have. Now I review the classifieds on TradGang to purchase the real nice stuff. Other than that, I check thrift stores, consignment clothing stores and Goodwill.
"And if you don't believe this story is true, ask George, he'll tell you to".
Nothin wrong with old Pendleton, Woolrich, Johnson, or any other good wool in plaids and plain earth tone colors.
I give you my word on it.
Fred
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: gokartjon on February 13, 2010, 10:25:00 PM
Man, you guys must have some really good thrift stores. I have gone to everyone in a 50 mile radius. I found one nice Pendleton shirt for $2.00. I did find one nice Pendleton Jac Shirt for $10, but it was way too small for me.
I am probably going to go with a set of Woolrich Malone bibs. I can get them from the local outlet mall for pretty cheap since my wife is a mall employee and they are on clearance. Just need to finish off with a coat or heavy shirt...

Thanks for the input so far!

Jon
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: Bowferd on February 13, 2010, 10:36:00 PM
I think George has informed them and now they charge like $3 to $5. Still a bunch better than $30 or $50
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: Don Stokes on February 14, 2010, 09:03:00 AM
Just got the LL Bean hunting catalog and saw that they have Merino wool longjohns, about $100 for the set. I'm very, very tempted...
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: NoCams on February 14, 2010, 10:42:00 AM
Don,
Bite the bullet, spend the  $$$ ONCE and buy you a set of Ullfrotte' 400 gr long johns. We wear ours from Nov thru Jan just about every hunt as the perfect base layer. Wool breathes like no other, stays warm when damp, comfortable over a wide range of temps. When it drops to teens we slip on a $3 Goodwill wool sweater over that, then your outer layer of Predator fleece that is windproof and warm as toast. We hunted several mornings this year when it was 9 degrees and stayed warm for 4 hrs on stand. Remember to cover your head good and chemical hand warmers for your coat pockets and good to go. Did I mention the fact that we LOVE wool ???

nocams  :campfire:
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: Overspined on February 14, 2010, 10:48:00 AM
i started using day one camo wool and it is inexpensive and nice. I use also King of the MOuntain and also very nice, but a lot more expensive. woolpower long underwear is a great investment!
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: Mike Bolin on February 14, 2010, 11:48:00 AM
merino wool longjohns can make all the difference! Awhile back, I was working in an open structure, from 100'-125' in the air. Temps in the teens with wind 30-40 mph. It was a bit chilly. First day I wore a synthetic blend long underwear rated for sub zero weather. FROZE my butt off. Same weaher conditions on day two, but swapped for my merino wool lj's. Can't say I was toasty warm, but I was much more comfortable and ended up working an additional 4 hours to make it 12 for the day. A woolen base layer is the key. Mike
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: hawkeye n pa on February 14, 2010, 11:48:00 AM
I have found that the washable wools and blended wools will not shed the rain like pure wool.  I don't have any of the top end wool though.
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: Mike Gibbs on February 14, 2010, 12:03:00 PM
Here's one for sale. 100% wool, made by the Blanket Brigade from a new Hudson Bay Blanket.  Thick. Much thicker than Fred's.

 Not a warmweather shirt.  Has a cape, which had double thickness over the shoulders. Pull over, with V lace up throat.  Falls beyond the knees.  Would probably be considered a "large."  I wear a medium shirt, and this is too big for for me if I don't wear something heavy under it, then I get too hot.  
I pay shipping.  I'll hold your payment until you get a chance to see it and try it on.  Will return at your expense. I'll try to post a pic.  

Well, phooey. I can't get the photo transferred. It has no http prefix.  I'll try later.
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: Mike Gibbs on February 14, 2010, 12:05:00 PM
http://www.corel.com

See if this works
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: Mike Gibbs on February 14, 2010, 12:07:00 PM
Nope, sorry.
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: gokartjon on February 15, 2010, 08:38:00 AM
I ended up making my own shirt out of a woolrich army blanket. I will post some pics later today.
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: gokartjon on February 15, 2010, 09:56:00 AM
Here are some pics. I still need to work on the neck area. Not sure if I am going to have it lace or button...

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w15/gokartjon/Hood1.jpg)

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w15/gokartjon/hood2.jpg)
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: gokartjon on February 15, 2010, 09:18:00 PM
For you guys that have pullovers, how do the laces work? Are the lace holes stiched around? Or are they just holes in the material?
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: Otto on February 15, 2010, 09:29:00 PM
A wool pullover I had made.  Bought the wool from Johnson Woolen Mills.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o232/Ottodude/IMG_1388.jpg)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o232/Ottodude/IMG_1387.jpg)

It's 100% wool.  I find the 85/15 blends to be a bit itchy.  But I know others who feel the opposite.
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: harvestmoon on February 16, 2010, 09:11:00 AM
Try Sportsman's Guide military surplus.  I now have two of their sweaters which are made to standards not normally found in regular retail.
Prices are way less than half what you would expect to pay for the quality.
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: Don Stokes on February 16, 2010, 10:32:00 AM
Found a site called Campmor on the web that has Merino wool underwear for about half what other places are asking. One version is lined with silk.
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: DannyBows on February 16, 2010, 03:35:00 PM
Gokartjon, I like your Army Blanket Pullover. I was just watching the YouTube Videos of different "BushCraft" inspired ones guys are making. I'm going to be making one for myself shortly.
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: Bowferd on February 16, 2010, 03:43:00 PM
Has anyone had any experience with Stanfields wool union suit? I believe they are a wool blend but don't see them much. I think they are made in Canada.
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: mjh on February 16, 2010, 03:54:00 PM
I'm a dyed in the wool user as are many.  I have surplus wool, filson, KOM, Bemidji, Stanfields longunderware, most likely some others. The KOM is my only camo wool, quality is top notch.  I say most of the wool I own is higher end quality.  Yes some pricier than others.  I buy a peice at a time here and there and after a few years you have plenty.  I thing my KOM pants, vest, jacket,hats, gloves, gaiters most likely took 5 years to buy. All my wool is used at one time or another during the colder months and I don't regret buying one peice of it.  If I had a local dealer of some other Camo wool I might have bought that but the local KOM dealer was at our local shoot for years and still attends other local events. It nice to deal with local folks. All my Bemidji wool was bought in Bemidji.

Been using the Stanfield Longunderwear top and bottom for almost 20years in MN, have 2 sets. Goog value for the money.  There might better wool out there these days but mine arn't wore out.  Have not used their union suit.

Only problems I've had with wool has be getting too hot and not vetalting layering on and off properly.
Title: Re: Wool
Post by: PeteA on February 16, 2010, 06:32:00 PM
You should take a look at Day One Camo. Nice wool pullovers in many camo patterns