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Title: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: SkottyBoy on February 11, 2010, 12:54:00 PM
okay, think I have narrowed it down to just two.  Not enough funds for both so here goes.  Treadway "black swamp" vs. JK Traditions "kanati" both same length and 2# difference. I have never held or shot either.  Coming off compounds with very limited trad experience. Your suggestion???
Thanks, Scott
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: Bjorn on February 11, 2010, 01:03:00 PM
Don't buy either unless you have spent several days, and preferably a week with her first, especially since you are coming off a compound bow.
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: ron w on February 11, 2010, 01:15:00 PM
Both are excellent choices,Bjorn has a point but but sometimes you have to do what you have to do. Just make sure that for you first bow away from a compound that you don't go to heavy in weight.
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: SS Snuffer on February 11, 2010, 01:23:00 PM
Kanati  unless the draw weight is to much.
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: SkottyBoy on February 11, 2010, 01:36:00 PM
I haved owned a recurve and a longbow.  Just got disgusted and sold them both. Only shot them a few months then went back to compound, it was during deer season so I did not give trad a fair shake. I am lowering weight this time to make it fun.
Thanks for input
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: oxnam on February 11, 2010, 02:41:00 PM
Not sure what you are going to spend on those, but I recommend an inexpensive bow (used) that is 15 lbs lighter than your compound.  Shoot that for a little while and get the basics down.  Then step up to a nicer higher poundage bow once you have strengthened and trained the new muscles.  You will also be better prepared to pick what weight you can handle comfortably and notice the subtle differences between the two you are considering.
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: BRITTMAN on February 11, 2010, 03:00:00 PM
I liked the kanati better than the black swamp plus you can get a kanati quickier and at a better price . As a old compound shooter myself I recomend shooting 15 to 20 pounds lighter in draw weight vs what you shot with your compound . For me I shot 70 lbs with compound and 48 to 53 lbs feels about right with the stickbow .
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: Predator Man on February 11, 2010, 03:05:00 PM
+1 for the kanati
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: Stone Knife on February 11, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
Now is a good time to give trad a fair shake, I gave up my compound just four year ago. My advise would be to take Bjorn's advise on not buying either one unless you are getting one heck of a deal. You might be better off getting an old Bear or similar right in the $100.00 range give or take, and also keep the weight down to 45# at your draw length if this weight is at least #15 pounds less than your compound as you will have a hard time learning to shoot properly if your over bowed. I learned this the hard way, I was shooting #60 with wheels and thought that #50 would be right for me in a trad bow this was a mistake. I ended up dropping to 45# and that is were I still am at. #45 is plenty of weight to kill deer as I have killed several with that weight and know first hand what a lower poundage bow is capable of doing with some practice and patience.
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: DEAN on February 11, 2010, 03:21:00 PM
BLACK SWAMP ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: SkottyBoy on February 11, 2010, 04:05:00 PM
I am currently drawing 70# on my compound and can shoot it for hours. (Smoothly, no grunting to pull.) both longbows are 50 lb pull +/- 2lb. Weight should not be an issue.  Neither is wait. both are used and available now.  just wondering which is "the better of the two".  I know this will be purely subjective but I would like to hear your thoughts on the bows.
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: BRITTMAN on February 11, 2010, 05:19:00 PM
In that case both bow are top notch so I would go with the best bow for the price .
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: Gerardo on February 11, 2010, 09:06:00 PM
BLACK SWAMP!!!!!!
  :thumbsup:

one of the best ones!!!!!!!!

because they are few of them they mantain there price for after sale and are very unique
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: jacobsladder on February 11, 2010, 09:17:00 PM
ive had both bows....I believe Mike treadway is one of the best bowyers out there...but if i had to choose between the two i'd go with the kanati.... i believe the kanati is a tad easier to shoot than the black swamp....now if we were talking about the treadways original black forest...i'd go with the original black forest over the kanati..... both bowyers are excellent...the blackswamp has a tad too much r&d for my liking....but is a very fast beautifully crafted bow......I think your best bet is to try to shoot any bow before buying...good luck.
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: Jwilliam on February 11, 2010, 10:26:00 PM
Haven't shot the Kanati. But I have shot alot of Mike Treadway's bows. Currently own 2 that I have no intention of selling. I feel Mike makes the best bow for the money out there. But again, that's just my opinion.  :biglaugh:  


Bill
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: SkottyBoy on February 11, 2010, 11:13:00 PM
wow, just when I thought I had it narrowed down someone goes and throws a PSRX on the classifieds with the specs I am looking for.  :banghead:    :banghead:    :banghead:
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: akbowbender on February 11, 2010, 11:19:00 PM
The Kanati has a nice pistol grip. It is loaded a lot up front, so you might want to start at a lower draw weight. It's an great bow...really puts 'em down range!
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: Avid Archer on February 11, 2010, 11:37:00 PM
Never shot a Treadway, but I know  Kanati is top shelf.
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: 30coupe on February 11, 2010, 11:42:00 PM
I haven't shot a Treadway either, but Kanatis are the best bows I have shot, and I have shot lots of bows. My 46# Kanati will blast an arrow through a whitetail. They are smooth, quiet, accurate, and very quick. Not to put the Treadway (or the Widow) down, but I'd go for the Kanati over either one.
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: Shinken on February 12, 2010, 12:51:00 AM
KANATI
Title: Re: black swamp or kanati ???
Post by: Steelhead on February 12, 2010, 02:48:00 AM
Have not shot the newer Treadway forward handle bow.But have had the 60 inch Kanati.I liked it alot!I am sure it will compare very favorably with any other bow with that style of design.I cant think of one thing I did not like about it honestly.

If you are buying second hand and you find you want to sale or trade it down the road you will come very close to breaking even or break even if its selling at a reasonable price.So its really a no risk proposition IMO.Excellant hunting bow.

The Black Forest Treadway I had was an excellant bow as well.It did not have a forward handle though like his newer one.