I need more shafts. I am looking at cheap 400 spine shafts under $50. I am looking at Beman bow hunter, GT vapor, GT vapor camo or GT black hunter. Which will be stronger, straighter, and most uniform in spine?
I have been shooting GT trad blem 5575 and Beman bow hunter 500's. This winter I have broken three Beman and one GT. All have been fractures of the shaft 2-6" from the point end. All from solid hits on frozen stuff, but not from driving the insert into the shaft so footing is not an issues. I am wondering if the difference is just the 500 to 400 shaft or if the GT is a little stronger. The 500 was shot in a 47-48# at my draw bow and the GT was in a 53-54# at my draw bow.
I know the GT trad is a little heavier than the other GT shafts, but what about strength? I assume the GT trad blems are the XT shaft so probably based on the same shaft as the vapor and black hunter, but I am not sure.
Any help would be appreciated.
I just got some beeman 400`s and love `m. I had been shooting gold tips and was disappointed in their durability.RC
Beman have the tighter spec's of the two.
I think Gt's Hunter are the stronger though,but both are good shafts.
Take your pick.
I like GT shafts they are all I shoot, I like the blems from Big Jim. I have heard others say they don't hold up but i have had good luck with them both at the 3D range and I have taken a boat load of game with them. Mine take a beating at the Muzzy shoot and hold up well, I internally foot them and they perform well for me.
imo, having used both, the beman ics proved the better overall value for me. i have about 8 dozen of the 500 size. :)
Beman ics, all I use for the last 8-10 yrs.
Beman :thumbsup: :campfire:
You can break them all!, except maybe a Carbon express heritage. They are the absolute toughest. Cost a little more, but if your breaking and not loosing then they are really cheaper. Don't know of a shaft that can stand toe to toe with them on tollerances and strength.
Oh yeah, we stock those too. I don't like the arrows I sell because I sell them. I sell them because I like them.
We will be stocking Arrow Dynamics this year also. Keep us in mind.
thanks,bigjim
I shoot both but would say Beman are the better arrow shafts.More consistant and the inserts are a lot easier to keep in them than the gt inserts.I use GTs because I can get lighter weight shafts cheap in the Entrada series.CXs are toughest but are heavy and I don't always want a heavy shaft.
At $42.00/doz the GT blems from Big Jim are the best arrow deal going. Why care about strength? You can buy three doz for price of one doz axis/mfx, 4 doz for price of one doz Grizzlys. Shootem, breakem, loosem then buy 3 doz more!I have arrows that were $200.00 doz and the game snaps em in half just as easy as the GT blems. As far as I'm concerned unless hunting something specialized that requires extra heavy shaft, the $42.00/doz are a no brainer.
You might also want to consider the Carbon Express Predator II's we have for $49.99 a dozen. Very high quality and tolerances for an entry level shaft, typical of Carbon Express.
Carbon Arrows and Shafts at Braveheart Archery (http://www.braveheartarchery.us/new_page_29.htm)
I love my Beman ICS Hunters. Very tough in my opinion.
If you want to keep it under the $50.00 a dozen go with the Beman Bowhunter in your list. Or, take a look at the CX Predator's that is mentioned above.
I would get the GT trad blems from Big Jim, but he is out. I don't know that I can wait too long for more. I will buy more this next time.
CE's are in the future maybe depending on the bow and set-up. Right now I don't need the weight.
Carbon Express Predator II's sound interesting, but I am not sure on the spine being listed as 400, but as 4560 vs. 5575. I want to keep the arrows the same length and point if possible as what my GT trad's are. Those I run right now at 31" to fit all my bows with point weight changes. I my cut down, but the Carbon Express Predator II's are only 30 3/8", and with a possible lighter spine, I am not sure on it.
5575 are 400 spine as are 4560's
The CE Predator II's in the 45/60 are .400's.
Poundage labels (not spine deflections) on carbons change from brand to brand and can't be compared against each other. Various manufacturers continue to use 4 or 5 different methods to designate their carbons and all it does is confuse matters IMO. If they would simply mark them by deflection it would help tremendously...but they don't. :knothead:
Great info thanks. Generally I look for the deflection, but I know with Stu's spine calculator there are some small differences. The CE's are more of a difference than the others I think. I assumed the 4560 and 5575 were the same because of the .400, but I don't like to assume unless someone, who knows, can confirm.