Been looking at some new camo and I keep coming back to the idea of these leafy suits. I know some of you have the ASAT Leafy stuff and would you share the pros and cons.
One specific question I have is how quiet are they?
Thanks Sam
The suits are very quiet. You need to make some adjustments for the leafy sleeves for string clearance, but the suits are very effective. I just wish that the suits were sold in separate pieces as for the legs run real long in the size I needed for the coat to fit.
It is a great suit but I sometimes just go in the woods without it on out of I'm running late and laziness I guess.
When I do wear it the deer never know I'm there I love it.
They are quiet after a wash or two and a lil beatin on em.
I don't have any problems with string clearance but I shoot with a lil more open of a stance.
Good suit all in all
It's awesome and the more you wash it the quieter it gets. Great outfit to have in your pack!
Claudia
I would shy away from leaf/ghillie suits, as that's the kind of thing Mr. Murphy purely loves to find when a guy is out hunting...
I love mine. no cons to it as far as i'm concerned.
I shot two deer while wearing mine this past year, and neither of them were alerted even when they looked thru me.
just trim the leaves off of your bow arm sleeve for string clearance.
Do you want to vanish. Then get one. I have seen them work many time.
Same as above, very quiet and you disappear nicely.
I havent hunted traditional with it yet but used it Oct-Nov here in MI and saw more deer than ever before.
As many have posted wash and dry it a few times before wearing its gets quieter the more washed.
Also I trimmed the sleeve and cheek area to ensure clearance.
If you call directly you can get different tops and bottoms. I have a wierd long torso short legs comparatively so I took a large top and medium bottoms and directly from ASAT they took care of me.
They have good customer service on a separate purchase I bought some additional material to sew in my ambush saddle and found it was uv hot (the suit was not) they fully refunded my money and didnt ask for the material back.
Thinking of getting the winter suit as well for Dec. up here.
Thanks guyes I probaly will get one.
Love mine too. I did cut the bow arm sleeve off.
Aside from being the mose effctive camo on the market, a few other things about it make it a good iinvestment. It is lightweight, and you can use it in any season. It easily slips over whatever you are wearing, from shorts and a T-shirt to the heavier late season clothes. I find I do not have to have several sets of hunting clothes in camp, and they dont necessarily have to be my camo clothes.
It does not radily absorb water from rain etc.
Best buy I've made in years.
I LOVE that suit!! The only con would be not getting one. :readit:
You can about smoosh the whole suit into the size of a boot sock. I saw their hunter orange version and am excited to see it come out.
I also have had great experiences with mine.The sleaves were fine for me too.
Mine is great and I don't have to trim anything on the sleeve if I just wear an arm guard. What the others who own them have said about how good they are is all accurate.
Allan
I've been using it for about 18 years, I've never had a problem. Works great on the ground. In a tree with a little cover, unreal. I wear a full length arm guard to cover my bicep and my forearm. Very light weight.
Only camo I've ever worn where birds land on my shoulders.
I've had a ASAT leafy suit for twenty years. It's never let me down. I've had Coyotes walk with in ten yards. I think the break up of your pattern is the key.
I really like mine. Pretty handy to just be able to pull it over the clothes your wearing and go hunt.
Now they have a snow leafy suit for all you winter hunters!
I know this is a revival of an older thread but....
What do you guys wear underneath when it is September HOT in Georgia? I would like to find some really lightweight long sleeve top that will give me coverage without too much heat. The shirt does not have to be camo as I think something black or tan would be adequate. Are the "heat" shirts from Under Armour anything special or are they just simply polyester?
Thanks,
James
I would like to know how the sizes work out and what size to order so it fits over at least mid weight layers. If you wear XL will an XL suit fit over a mid weight jacket?
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I would like to know how the sizes work out and what size to order so it fits over at least mid weight layers. If you wear XL will an XL suit fit over a mid weight jacket?
I'd like to know that too. I think I'm in between a M and L...may need one if each.
love mine and now have two , well my son has one and I have one
Mine is an XL and I normally wear a 2XL. I have enough room in mine to layer it over all but my heaviest wool. Great suit! Mike
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Mine is an XL and I normally wear a 2XL. I have enough room in mine to layer it over all but my heaviest wool. Great suit! Mike
So if I'm reading this right, you wear a size smaller than normal with the ASAT suit, and it still fits over other layers?
I love mine, I wear it in the early season and on into the late season it's quite and works great.
I have bought three suits,two for me,one for my nephew.They all run a size smaller.if you normaly wear a large,I would definetly get and XL suit.That has been my experience.
QuoteOriginally posted by Scott88:
I have bought three suits,two for me,one for my nephew.They all run a size smaller.if you normaly wear a large,I would definetly get and XL suit.That has been my experience.
Now I'm really confused. Most people who have the suit seem to think they run large, but you have found yours to run small?
I guess I'm just big boned !! :biglaugh:
With this style of suit you really can't screw up going larger unless the sleeve length or leg length is critical. I have been researching these and plan on getting one ASAP.
If you all really want a great light weight and highly effective mesh leafy suit - you have to check out the kill suits from allpredator just do a google search. These are without a doubt the best camo system I have ever used. The offer a traditional string and a digital mesh - I have the digital mesh in both desert and woodland camo - unbelievable and wait until you see the price. They have some videos on you tube. beats ASAT and other leafy wear hands down.
I have been using one for years and would not part with it...it is incredibly effective at making you vanish!
Do we have any sponsors that sell these?
DaveT,
Do you have the suit or the Sapper? Have you hunted them enough to know how they will hold up ?
Darren
QuoteOriginally posted by Pa Pa D:
DaveT,
Do you have the suit or the Sapper? Have you hunted them enough to know how they will hold up ?
Darren
Curious as well, I like the looks of the Sapper.
JKM97,
They are sold out of the woodland suit so I got antsy and ordered a Sapper. I was impressed with the Sapper as well.
For hunting in Colorado I wouldn't trade my ASAT leafy suit for anything.
Best place to buy the ASAT suit??? Will be hunting the ground exclusively this fall, knees can't take climbing but a time or two anymore so am developing some ground blinds. Thanks for any info.
I just ordered one. Can't wait for fall to try it out. I'm a ground hunter and need all the help I can get. Thanks for the replies that got me to try one.
Tom - I bought mine direct from ASAT off of their website.
I have both the desert digital and woodland camo in both the suit and the sapper. I use both. They don't snag on bruch near as much like the trad ghillie. Also, they have a new 3d leaf suit that looks pretty good - but I am having so much luck with the ones I have I just cannot see changing. No way I would pay 140 dollars for the ASAT version when the desert Kill Suit has same basic colors and does a far better job breaking up the outline and costs about half the price. ASAT is good but the 3d leaf suit kind of destroys the ASAT pattern anyway. Everyone that I know that has tried the Kill Suits has had animals walking yards away without being detetected as long as they remain still. I have got away with some movement and event when a coyote (which to me has far better vision then deer) detects me he just stares as he cannot make out what exactly I look like.
I trimmed the stuff off the inside of my left arm and on my left chest area a little to facilitate a clean bowstring release.
as far as holding up I hunt Texas a lot and we have a ton of thorns and briars - these things are tough and very well made. However, I usually walk in and put my suit on when I arrive as it is usually 80 degreees or so during bow season here. I think these will last several years - I've had mine for two complete seasons and can't see any wear or tear as of yet. They are basic and have snaps and draw strings---- should last many seasons.
The same successes have been reported by users of ASAT. I may feel differently about another system if walking in and sitting a bait or a stand was the way I'd be hunting. However, for planning on extended foot travel and the potential to encounter elk at any moment, the ASAT suit works best for me. I may not walk around with an arrow nocked but it is wise to be as prepared as possible for "go time" when wandering these elk haunts.
Well I guess I could tell ya I walked up on a doe last year and shot her at 20 yards? Or I could tell you about the coyote that I was able to stalk and shoot at 45 yards?
There is no doubt in my mind that these suites will do anything an ASAT suit can do (and I think more when talking breaking up the human outline) at about 1/2 the cost. But all I was wanting to let other trad gangers know about them as they are a great alternative to other leafy wear suits. There's videos out there for both ASAT and Kill Suits - so everyone can go make their own choice - I am sure either suit would be a good alternative.
I suppose I could tell you about the 18 hen turkey's that surrounded me for 20 min at an average distance of 4 yds, but that is neither here nor there.
I believe many,like products will allow one to have their silhouette broken up. My post was intended to also take into account the functionality based on the type of hunting one might be doing not just the cost and look of the product.
Glad you like ASAT - it is a good camoflauge and if it works for you - go for it.
BTW cost is not the deciding factor for me, just an added bonus.
IMHO the Kill Suit is far more effecient at hiding movement and breaking up the human outline and is just as functional no matter what type of hunting you do - ASAT leafy suit doesn't even begin to compare IMHO.
All the advantages stated by ASAT are found in these suits - plue it has a big advantage over ASAT in breaking up the humam outline - for 1/2 the cost. It also comes in a green version that is far better for spring turkey hunting and other hunting when green is still predominate.
If you want to PM me and tell me ONE advantage the ASAT suit has over the Kill Suit in Digital Desert camo I am open to hearing - but I am very familiar with ASAT and predator which I have owned and used both.
I can tell you this suit outperforms them in every scenario I have been in (from elk hunting to deer hunting). But if you really want to test your camo - call coyotes while sitting in the middle of an open field - nothing except perhaps birds have sharper vision and no game animal is better at detecting movement and if you think your ASAT leaf suit will fool coyotes while totally exposed....well I've tried it and the Kill Suit is only camo besides a traditional brown ghillie that has allowed me to CONSISTENTLY pull that off.
Desert Camo Kill Suit
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Better pics I hope. Suits are made from 100% digital camo mesh - weighs about 2 pounds, compacts into a space about 7 inches square---- so you can decide for yourself how this compares, or out performs ASAT leafy wear.... and yes the cost is $59.00 for the entire suit and a carrying bag. I know which one I will be wearing this Fall.... my ASAT has long since been retired.
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Better pics I hope. Suits are made from 100% digital camo mesh - weighs about 2 pounds, compacts into a space about 7 inches square---- so you can decide for yourself how this compares, or out performs ASAT leafy wear.... and yes the cost is $59.00 for the entire suit which includes pant, jacket with hood/facemask and a strip to camo gun/bow and a carrying bag. I know which one I will be wearing this Fall.... my ASAT has long since been retired.
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Dave,
I know you mentioned several times that the KillSuit is more effective with breaking up the outline of a human body than the ASAT 3D leafy so I wonder if you can further explain what you mean? Is it because of the hood that comes with KillSuit or what exactly?
No it is because of the long strips - the ASAT and most leafy suits have little leave cutouts but they do little do actually break up the human outline. Look at the pics and see how the longer strips do a much better/more effective job (do you see head, arms, legs, shoulders, etc...). Same basic concept as a ghillie but made with mesh material so you don't have all the problems (weight, snagging) that you have with traditional ghillie.
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Where do you find those to order from. They look like the cat's pajamas!
Dave, thank you for posting this info. I will be buying a Woodland Sapper. I was going to make my own out of Max 1 fabric pieces. Just one question, is it real quiet?
And how hot is it?
Hey guys I live in upstate NY and it can get pretty cold in the fall deer season especially when you don't move all day. Wondering how you colder weather guys layer up under these suits for long sits?
The kill suit looks good but I wouldn't be able to stand those long strands hanging off me everywhere unless I was hunting wih the gun.
Dave thanks for your input on coyotes, killed plenty myself, it's their nose I fear more than their eyesight.
I'm also happy for you, you have found a product you believe in. My original statement had to do with ME and where and how I hunt. If you'd like to carry an additional two pounds around with you that's fine, I'll pass
It might be green in the spring where YOU hunt, not where I do. That's ok I guess you've got a different kill suit for All Seasons and All Terrains.
Stefan
I'm also no longer impressed with shotgunned turkey's, regardless of the camo used to get within shotgun range.
The Kill Suit looks nice but appears to be more for gun hunters since the pieces of long fabric would cause issues shooting a bow. I am sticking with the ASAT leafy suit since it has proven itself over and over for me.
Steve - I shoot a longbow and have no problems but I did cut the strips shorter on left side of chest and left inside arm.
Like I said in the beginning I posted this as another alternative if you love your ASAT suits then wear them....
We could go on and on about which is best - wear what you want - pictures and videos are available for all to make their own decision.
For eveyone else - I really don't endorse any product I just thought some of you might like to see an American made product that I personally believe is far superior to other 3D suits. but that is MHO only.
BTW - they have a killer snow camo version - but I know...... ASAT will work better there also..... At 59 bucks - you can dang near buy all three suits for the price of ONE ASAT suit.
Sveltri - sorry you don't get impressed by a shotgun turkey - perhpas one day I can aspire to rise to your level
It appears they have a leafy kill suit for 75 dollars that looks awesome! I just Googled woodland kill suit. It would be a tough call between the ASAT and the suit I found.....
@ Mike - very Quiet
JKM 97 - It is a mesh suit so it by itself is not hot - I wear mine in July hunting pigs and coyotes
For those that were interested in the Kill Suit – I want to correct a few assumptions made by someone that has never worn a Kill Suit. I choose to carry my suit in as that is how I hunt deer (not because I can't wear it while walking in). I don't put on my camo until I am at my tree way before daylight. If I was hunting ELK I have no problem wearing it all day. It gets HOT down here in Texas and I just like to have fresh camo when I get to my hunting spot.... When I do get to hunt Elk – I have no problem wearing it all day and it blends into more environments (desert camo) than any other suit or camo I have every worn. The kill suit weighs no more than any leafy suit – in fact it usually weighs less and compacts tighter then most.
IMHO the brown Kill Suit will do ANYTHING that any ASAT suit will do.... And I believe it is far superior at breaking up the human outline and hiding slight movement. I posted three pics of the suit with nothing in front of it and to my eyes it still does a good job of breaking up the human outline. Perhaps someone can post some pics of ASAT or other leafy wear suits and compare?
Yes coyotes have superior sniffers – but ANYONE that doesn't appreciate their eyesight has not hunted them much.
I'm done on this post – if you are interested in learning more there are several videos on you tube and lots of pictures on the all predator calls website. At 59 bucks I think they are the very best deal, and the very best camo, currently available.
Yes - buckeye hunter is correct, they just came out with a leafy wear suit.