Just wanting to know if anybody have hab problem's with coyote's while hunting I just found out a month or two ago my both my cousin's got a deer and put them by my stand for the coyote's so do they get aggressive around there food should I be worried? Thanks
If a coyote gets agressive with you it is most like infected with Rabies. Shot any and all agressive yotes you run into.
I have never heard of a coyote getting agressive with an adult. They have attacked children a time or two across their range.
I have never seen one not run away once they know you are there.
Last year a hiker was attacked and killed by 2 coyotes in Nova Scotia-well known story.
You dont have to worry about coyotes, they are so scared of us. They will run quicker away from you then any deer. Now if it gets really cold and food is hard to find the pet dog may be in trouble if it wonders out by itself.
there was a singer in canada killed, last year i believe, by a pair of coyotes. In my humble opinion, a coyote is a predator and anyone who thinks that a coyote, if it was hungry enough, wouldnt attack a person because of its "fear" is dillusional. we are the easiest prey. no natural weapons other than our brain, no natural defenses other than our brain. no offense meant to anyone, just stating my opinion
Im sorry if Im dillusional, but if your out in the woods and scared about a coyote you have problums and shouldnt be in the woods.
Coyote attacks on people are extremely rare. The best estimates assert that, in recorded history, there have been 20 to 30 coyote attacks on humans that resulted in injuries." (Tracking and the Art of Seeing, Paul Rezendes, second edition, 1999, p. 194)
Usually coyote attacks on people occur when a coyote has become comfortable around people, often as a result of people feeding them.
Just like bears, people feed them then get attacked. Common sense people youll be fine.
I have a substantial number if yotes around areas that I hunt. They have never been a problem. They run from you at first glance. On the other hand, our coon dogs have had to scrap with them a time or two when hunting.
I wouldn't worry about em. In fact I would set up on em and try to kill em all! I guess if they were hungry enough they could attack, but really...coyotes as a threat to me, not a chance. I hunt them, and am really lucky to get one when I am trying to get close to em. They are smart enough to run from me. :-) I would also go as far as to say that we are not the easiest prey. I can and wwill defend myself by all means. 200 lbs of lean mean dvshunter vs. Two 40lb. Yotes... I'd put my money on me. Go get em if you dare...
I have been attacked myself, well I guess you would not call it attacked but I was hunting and nature called, the standing kind, so I'm standing there taking care of business and I get that feeling, that one you get when you know something or someone is watching you. Well I turn around with all my glory in my hand and there is a yote standing about 3 to 4 feet from me just staring at my hand, the one with my glory in it and the next thing I know this yote is leaping at me, I let go and swipe at him with my hand and two of my fingers end up in his mouth. He grabs on and jerks two or three times like a dog tugging on a rope, then let's go and turns and hauls butt out of there. I had a couple of shallow rips on my index finger and the one next to it, he must have been young because his teeth were sharp as puppy teeth.
Scared the hell out of me but I laugh about it now, he must have had visions of a veana sausage or something for lunch.
This happened about 30 years ago when I was young and dumb, I didn't even go to the doc to have it checked out.
On a serious side if any of you out there get bit by something wild go get checked rabies is nothing to mess with
Quotebut if your out in the woods and scared about a coyote you have problums and shouldnt be in the woods.
Never said I was scared, all I am saying is that if anybody feels that a coyote will not attack a human because of some innate fear or whatever then you are disillusioned. Never said they kill alot of people either. all I am saying is that coyotes are predators and can/will/have attacked/killed humans before.
as a side note, a lot of people go missing and are never found. how many attacks by deadly animals go unrecorded every year because the remains are never found?
QuoteOriginally posted by L82HUNT:
[QB] Im sorry if Im dillusional, but if your out in the woods and scared about a coyote you have problums and shouldnt be in the woods.
i think i'm gonna have to agree with that...i had a bullfrog charge me once, but i still go flyfishing occasionally...(i do carry a knife however)
don with an avatar like that I wouldnt be afraid of any bullfrogs either
No need to worry...
QuoteOriginally posted by Ragnarok Forge:
If a coyote gets agressive with you it is most like infected with Rabies....
...I have never seen one not run away once they know you are there.
I totally disagree.
I have had the alpha male coyote chase my 105lb dog, trying to hamstring him all the way, right up to me, around me and until I kicked him in the ribs he was not going to leave. This was a 75lb coyote and was boss. He was intent on killing my dog, who, though a great sight hound and a great retriever was no fighter. Until he realized I was going to participate, he was continuing the attack.
I don't think a coyote is going to attack anyone unless that person shows very meek, timid and uncertain behavior when they come on.
These animals are not stupid and they can determine risk very accurately.
Go with confidence and use yuor head. Nothing to worry about- they are part of the natural world we hunt in and as a preditor only need to be shown the risk is not worth the uncertain reward.
99% of the time they run anyway...
Joshua
Pops-it is a good thing that Coyote did not have a Salami preference!!
WTPOPS - Sorry but I laughed out loud at your story.
He must of thought you had his mouse. Still laughing...
Pops that is a funny story.
Nothing to worry about. There is a reason you seldom see coyotes in the woods. We seldom see bears, cats, wolves also but they are there.
QuoteNothing to worry about. There is a reason you seldom see coyotes in the woods. We seldom see bears, cats, wolves also but they are there.
very true. and every year people are mauled by both bears and cats, and contrary to popular belief, by wolves. just because you dont see them does not mean they will not attack under the right circumstances.
not saying it happens often, or that it is something that anybody should fear overly much, but that the possibility is there, and they should be aware of it.
QuoteOriginally posted by Bjorn:
Pops-it is a good thing that Coyote did not have a Salami preference!!
Hey Bjorn he proably did and thats why turned and ran, he didnt see any thing worth fighting me over. :saywhat:
QuoteOriginally posted by okcaveman:
QuoteNothing to worry about. There is a reason you seldom see coyotes in the woods. We seldom see bears, cats, wolves also but they are there.
very true. and every year people are mauled by both bears and cats, and contrary to popular belief, by wolves. just because you dont see them does not mean they will not attack under the right circumstances.
not saying it happens often, or that it is something that anybody should fear overly much, but that the possibility is there, and they should be aware of it. [/b]
Agreed. Most things we do in life have an element of danger and most of them are much more dangerous than what we are talking about here. As you said, it is possible and yes, we should be aware of it. >>> RAY
watch out for falling trees too. If you are going to worry about coyotes you might want to think about a hard hat while hunting and don't forget rubber boots for lightning as well
I don't really know for sure if a coyote would attack outright no one knows for sure but i have been close to the thought several times.If you think a alpha male won't stand his ground in mating season get him mad enough he is peeing and rolling in it twisting and snarling pacing back and forth stand up and walk toward him and see if he turns and runs from you.We was probably 50 from each other there was a tree in between us for a good 30 min he was mad i couldn't wait any longer i thought i would stand up and maybe get a running shot he didn't run looked at me made faces that scared the crap out of me i shot him at 25 yrds but most will run.One problem we used to have years ago was what they call a coy dog they breed with domestic dogs and they get big and they will not run to much dog i guess.I hadn't seen any for years then last Friday morning i called one in it had a beagle with it not a good sign but oh well bad luck for both can't be having that.Love to hunt the yotes.
This is an interesting thread.
I can not say I have had any more trouble with coyotes then them getting after my chickens, I have seen some young yotes try for young deer, more fun to watch than alarming. I have had one nearly walk in to my lap calling for turkeys, I moved to get a better look and that big male swapped ends and back to the swamp. To protect my livestock now I have a pair of dogs for such matters (Anatolian Shepherd) the male is 160# and does not like any animal messing with his pets. Coyotes are cunning wild life you live with, a little respect goes along way. I still will try and shoot every one I see when our season is open, but I like the fact that I can and do see them.
I would not worry about them attacking me but we have lost a deer or two that we left until morning to follow up on questionable shots.. that sucked.
Jhg, Did you kill an weigh said coyote or are you estimating weight, an was this an eastern or western coyote? Just curious, I ,ve trapped quite a few Penna. coyotes an about the biggest that I've caught an weighed so far is a 45# Male an a 38# female, also had two yotes total destroy traps an pull jaws out an escape. Sure would have liked to have weighed those two. They are extremely strong an will really work your gear over. Later Bob
Estimated weight- and who knows how accurate I am at that concerning coyotes. This was here in Colorado. I do know he was the largest I have ever seen personally and I have seen quite a number of them at different distances. His teeth were not worn away so much as to be past his prime (got a good look at them as he came past me after my dogs hind legs about 2 feet away) but he was certainly in his middle to late prime. I didn't kill him- had no weapon and didn't feel the need anyway, since the boot to ribs worked and he took off.
Joshua
when i was 25 i had a job that included a house with the pay.i had several young calves i was raising to sell at the cattle auction.i had to get up at 3am every morning and go get the cows in from pasture and milk them.one rainy winter morning i was on my way to my truck when i heard a bunch of bauling from my calf barn.i grabbed my flashlight from my seat and trotted towards the barn.i was surprised to see at least five big cototes trying to drag a calf out of its pen,they saw me and started advancing on me.i turned and hauled ass to the house and grabbed my 12 ga pump.went back out the door and ran into three of them standing not ten feet from my porch like they were waiting on me to come back out or something.i killed two of them and peppered the third then went to the calf barn where i found my best calf dead from shock.dont kid yourself about coyotes.one is not likely to try much but you get numerous yotes they are a lot more aggressive and will try and get you if thats what they want to do.they are predators.
My hunting partner and his nephew were triangulated by yotes while trying to get a fair size pig out of the swamps one night. The yotes kept yipping and moving around,but never came in.
My experience is, like bears and pigs, they are a little bolder under the cover of darkness.
Pops: :scared: Can you imagine having to explain that at the hospital?
Doctor: "And why are we having to stich up "most of you"?
You: "Well, the "rest of me" got eaten by a coyote out in the woods an hour ago, and......."
There is just no good way to explain that. Or live with it...
Wtpops you will be sittin around the fire 80 years old tellin that story :clapper: thanks for sharing guy's.
jhg said it very accurately "they can determine risk very accurately". Excellent statement!!!
They ARE different critters in the dark, they ARE much more aggressive when travelling together, and during breeding season a big male is highly unpredictable.
I believe coyotes are not all the same. Certain areas where I live contain `yotes that are much larger than the average, and live more as a pack animal. They are not all frail, sneaky, mouse eaters.
One, close range encounter with the yellow eyes of a forty-plus pound male, defending his territory, and you will know there is nothing to fear...as long as you can make him aware the risk is too high.
We have been having more problems every year here in Canada with the coyote..I heard that in some areas, it has been in breeding with the wolves producing what they call the Eastern Wolf. Much larger than your standard yote.
It was reported to be the Eastern Wolf that attacked and killed the singer in Nova Scotia.
In my area (North of Montreal), we have been seeing increased coyote activity and deer predation.
That funny wtpops now everytime I'm in the outdoors and have a nature call I'll be looking over my shoulder.
I live in an area with a lot of yotes. Just saw one 20 min. ago in the back yard. If you have an over populated area with diminishing food you need to look out. We just had a story on the news here in IL where little dogs and a child have been attacked.
My experience is If you see a yote laying like the sphinx on the edge of an area just watching something, that something is being thought of as lunch. They are fine when moving.
The she yote we have around here often is called Maria. My 55 pound springer spaniel thinks she is a special kind a fine!
Lousy with the damn things up here. They are hard on the deer and have almost eliminated fox in these parts. We loose quite a few chickens to them year In & out. Leave a track job on deer until the next morning and all you'll find is what the coyotes left after they got full.
Standard SOP up here is to kill them on sight...
My cousin took a doe in early season. He went to the truck to get his tools. When he got back the yotes were watching but never aproached him or the deer. He gutted her and drug her off. When he got 100 yards away, they ran in to eat the guts. Closest we have had them come.