I got a real crazy idea !!!
I want to make the biggest ...baddest primitive arrow ever made that killed a deer!
My ? Whats the "BIGGEST" arrow in weight and lenth that you ever shot or seen ???
I want it big ! more like a spear with a nock! I'll shoot it out of a tree stand no more than 12 yards. I'm not much worried about "SPEED"....as it will weight a bunch and I have no reason to think it will not go through a deer if I build the right bow for it and practice enough to hit where I need too.
I know ...CRAZY ...but its different and "US" primitives are !!! lol!
I don't remember the specs. Howard Hill shot an elephant whith an arrow your wanting to build. You might try a search.
Al
Ohhhh, I see.You mean like a big ol' atlatl dart?
I've seen videos of some pretty long arrows(somewhere between 3-5 ft) used by the locals from some South American countries. They were shot up into the high canopy rain forest at warm blooded animals and into the water after fish.
Can primitive arrows be made from split woods or just shafts from growing plants/bushes/trees?
God bless,Mudd
Just make sure you get extreme foc or it won't work! :) :)
I have a friend that made up a fishing arrow that was well over 1000 grains.... thats the biggest I have personally seen. I saw on tv some african natives using arrows about 5 foot long that im sure weighed pounds instead of grains.
I'm going out to cut primitive shafts today...one or two "big one's" will come back with me ...stay tuned !!!!
......Izzy something like that !!!! I can make the arrows..now for a bow to shoot them ...!!! ?
I made and shot an arrow made from a 5/8" diameter dowel I bought at the hardware store. I used full length flu flu's. I shot the arrow at a target to qualify for the McMahon shoot off. I was shooting my 85# Black Widow recurve then. I aimed 3 feet to the left for the arrow to hit the mark. It didn't paradox much. That was fun. P.S. Be sure to secure the target. It knocked the 3d deer target down
What about Ron laClairs "elephant arrow"? I remember seeing a picture of him at full draw with it somewhere, it was of broomstick proportions!
The last issue of primitive archer had a topic on south american hunting bows and arrows. They were huge! 5 and 6ft long, with 1000 grain heads, but they were efective. They had several pics of the arrow, and bows the natives were using.
I just read the arrow Howard Hill used to kill an elephant was a 41 inch aluminum with an enlarged version of the Hill broadhead weighing 1700 grains. The bow he used had a draw weight of 115 lbs. Good luck
Al
Here it is, 36" long, 3/4" diameter, shot from a 104# bow
(http://www.shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/104%23_elephant_bow.jpg)
A couple of my buddies in cumberland built arrows out of 3/4" dowel rod on the dare of there shop teacher. Maybe you can try that? I hope we get to meet sometime seeing as we both live in ohio.
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=24;t=000016
Ron LaClaire. Is that a Hill longbow? Nice arrow. I would love to be young again and pull back a 100# plus bow
"tell me I'm crazy"...OK, you're crazy :goldtooth:
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Originally posted by Guru:
"tell me I'm crazy"...OK, you're crazy :wavey:
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Daniel
Dang Ron, who did the coloration of that OLD picture? Just kidding. That made me laugh out loud when I saw it. That thing can do some serious work on just about anything walking(t-rex).
What kind of head is that? Looks like a single bevel
Dang! you to Daniel?
I did see a giant arrow this weekend at the ACE BROADHEAD booth, it had a hexblunt on it.
Sleepingbear, the bow is a Ron Maulding Big Horn. Chuck, the broadhead is an oversize tie on made by a buddy in a machine shop.
I've still got the bow...can't shoot it anymore. Maybe if I trained up a bit I could, but I don't want to..
Dang Daniel, You really need to get off the couch and get yourself into shape :notworthy:
.....ok GURU !!! thanks I needed that ... You get that way when You get ...Old!
2006 squirrel hunt...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Killdeer/TG%20Uploads/VA%20Squirrel%20Hunt%2006/Img_2926.jpg)
So you see, the idea has been tossed around to the point that it is considered old hat. :D
Killdeer
Hickory or hedge?The recent issues of Primative Archer showed the natives on New Guinea shooting arras similar to what your talking about.
You truly are looney :) I like that^^
My, my... Some people just have tooooo much time on their hands... :rolleyes: ...
* Thinking about it, I remember one of the "Raiders" movies showing natives shooting very long arrows off of short self bows. That was kinda cool. *
... mike ...
OK, now I wanna see the QUIVERS!
:)
I think you need to call Gary Sentman and get the bow he used to shoot them. His 176 lb longbow to a maximum 28" draw
What are you thinking??? Are you stoned or what??? :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
Theres a guy that comes to Mojam every year and shoots the old english long bows with horn nocks and made of Yew. Most are 120# to 160# :scared:
He shoots some very large arrows with home made Bodkin points on them and they wieght 2000 grains total. He shoots his bows in the clout shoot and they are pretty impressive.
Ron, You alway have the best picks :bigsmyl:
Tracy
Kevgsp,
That would have been what I'd have stubbed my toe trying to find... interesting stuff, when taken in the overall view of the cosmos, eh? :)
Check these arrows out. Courtesy of Dr. Ed Ashby.
http://www.alaskabowhunting.com/PR/Ashby_Papua_New_Guinea_Bows_and_Arrows.pdf
Originally posted by K.S.TRAPPER:
"There's a guy that comes to Mojam every year and shoots the old English long bows with horn nocks and made of Yew. Most are 120# to 160#
He shoots some very large arrows with home made Bodkin points on them and they wieght 2000 grains total. He shoots his bows in the clout shoot and they are pretty impressive."
That's John from New Melle, Mo.
John builds his own bows and forges his own bodkin points. Heck of a nice man, very knowledgeable. I once made the remark that I'd love to try shooting some arrows tipped with his bodkins and a package showed up at my house with 3 bodkin points. I still haven't found a shaft I'd trust to stick them on..lol
God bless,Mudd
I just read a post last week posted by Mr. Rob, in reference to Doc Ashby. Read it twice and didn't save it. And of course now I can't find it. I'm sure it had something to say about EFOC that was in use long long time ago.
Big, Big Long arrows with spears for tips.
Yea, I think it will work.
I've been working with some bamboo shafts, drilling the point end and sticking metal deep down inside and then 150 to 200 gr trade points up front.
Now i'm telling you these arrows cruise thru the air to target.
I'm getting old, I've nothing else to do.
Gettin' old eh? Well get a camera and post some pictures of yer experimentin' 'fore you ferget!