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Title: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: Doug in MN on January 31, 2010, 11:48:00 AM
Picked up a used RER recurve that needed a little cleaning. Possibly a refinish job. The bow had a wrapped grip that appeared to be one of the poly wraps. After taking the bow down and cleaning the limbs I unwrapped the grip someone had a Dremmel moment. Yikes !!!!!

Do not have a lot of $$ in the bow so I will work with what is here. The fella that sold me the bow had no idea at all about the grip being worked over.

So I wont be refinishing and letting the grip wood show through. Thinking about filling in with Modeling clay(Very dense modeling clay) or Plastic wood, reshaping the removed wood, and just stitching on a new leather grip.

I am not sure there is enough wood left to reshape and refinish the grip.

Photos are not the best but you will see what was done to the grip

Any ideas here fellas?

Thanks DD

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Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: wingnut on January 31, 2010, 12:15:00 PM
Use this method to build it up and refit it.

http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000066

You can either leave for all too see or cover with leather when done.

Mike
Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: Oregon Okie on January 31, 2010, 12:17:00 PM
I have added to grips with bondo and with the putty type epoxies which are easier than bondo to shape. Then, of course you have to cover it with something but it works.
There are a few threads about adding to grips on here.
Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: Chris Shelton on January 31, 2010, 12:58:00 PM
you could try the modeling clay and then I would put a darker wood putty over it, then seal it???  The worst thing that could happened is you have to cover it up again!
Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 31, 2010, 01:00:00 PM
I fixed a wood coffee table by using sawdust and wood glue just have to do it in layers and let it dry in between it will take a bit of time but it works
Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: Doug in MN on January 31, 2010, 01:02:00 PM
Mike thank you very much, I am going to go the leather direction.

Thanks Again !!

DD
Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: JimB on January 31, 2010, 01:08:00 PM
"modeling clay" is an oil based clay for artists,that never hardens.This may not be what you are referring to but it is exactly what you don't want.I wouldn'y use wood filler either.

I would use a good quality epoxy putty.It will set up and cure well,regardless of thickness,can be filed and sanded etc.It sticks well to most materials and takes finishes and glues well.It doesn't need any finish over it,however.

I can send you some if that's the route you want to go.Just PM me.
Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: George D. Stout on January 31, 2010, 01:20:00 PM
Dremel tools aren't bad....it's the people who use them 8^).
Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: Chris Shelton on January 31, 2010, 01:29:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by JimB:
"modeling clay" is an oil based clay for artists,that never hardens.
there are different types of modeling clay, I know the type used in taxidermy turns to like a stone!
Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: Doug in MN on January 31, 2010, 01:39:00 PM
I probably should have been more clear with the modeling clay reference. The type I have used for odds and ends in the past I get from the Taxidermist at the end of the road. It does indeed turn to stone.

I have enough Marine Tex (2 part epoxy) around the house from my benchrest rifle building days (the best bedding material on the planet). I could use that for sure but I am going to try the leather thing.

You are correct George it is the operator not the tool.

Thanks to all. DD
Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: Prairie Drifter on January 31, 2010, 01:41:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Chris X-21:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by JimB:
"modeling clay" is an oil based clay for artists,that never hardens.
there are different types of modeling clay, I know the type used in taxidermy turns to like a stone! [/b]
That is a water based "potter's" clay. Modeling clay is oil based as JimB said. We do use modeling compounds that look like clay but are different types of epoxy.
Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: Chris Shelton on January 31, 2010, 01:54:00 PM
O okay, it was labled "clay" so I assumed!  Thanks for the info! :)
Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: JimB on January 31, 2010, 03:17:00 PM
If it was labeled clay,it probably was a product called Apoxy Clay which is actually a 2 part epoxy that has powdered,dry potters clay added to it which holds down the shine and makes it easier to sand.So you are right.It is actually both.Sounds like you are on the right track.I think you can get that bow not only back to where it needs to be but a true custom fit for your hand.
Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: VTer on January 31, 2010, 04:19:00 PM
I think he did a good custom job for his own hand.
Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: JDL on January 31, 2010, 04:31:00 PM
I would probably bondo it but you could flatten it out, glue on a block of wood and shape it back to your specs...
Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: Gerry on January 31, 2010, 05:37:00 PM
Ouch had the same experience.
Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: Eric Krewson on January 31, 2010, 06:25:00 PM
Super glue and sawdust, builds up fast, cures fast, hard as a rock. I use it to build up handles on selfbows that have a tear out in the stave the reduces the amount of wood necessary for a handle.
Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: Possum2 on January 31, 2010, 08:53:00 PM
I have done this build along on a old bow I bought off **** and made the handle and a self and it was beauty as h*** Give it a try it doen't take long a buch of super glue and some different color leather and it looks like laminated wood

http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000066
Title: Re: Dremmel's Are BAD JUJU
Post by: patvro on January 31, 2010, 10:46:00 PM
Good luck fixing the grip I had a WTF moment with a widow I bought someone prior to the person I bought it from carved down a asbell grip and did a poor checkering job . It was far from custom!