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Title: Stump shooting
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 26, 2010, 10:24:00 PM
Ok, I have to admit that I never stump shot,I use the kids old basket balls,soccer balls and kick them around in the field and shoot at them moving and still.So what type of heads do you use when stumping?   :coffee:
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: L82HUNT on January 26, 2010, 10:30:00 PM
http://www.blackwidowbows.com/store/563-Traditional-Judo-Point-P144C25.aspx  

Best stump shooter out there is
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: DVSHUNTER on January 26, 2010, 10:30:00 PM
anything really. I like rubber blunts,judos,and steel blunts
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: John3 on January 26, 2010, 10:31:00 PM
Judos are about the best I've used.. Tough as they come and I've never lost an arrow using them.
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: Jock Whisky on January 26, 2010, 10:32:00 PM
Just about anything. Field points, judo, blunts. I even make my own out of screw-in field points with 1/8 inch rod in an X pattern. I drill two 1/8 inch holes in the head at 90 degrees to each other, then epoxy two one inch long 1/8 inch rod into each hole. (Don't do it with glue on points on wood arrows. They'll break)

JW
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 26, 2010, 10:33:00 PM
I had a pair of judos on arrows when I had the wheels and the fingers would break when they hit the ground.Are they made a little stronger now?
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: LongbowGuy83 on January 26, 2010, 10:36:00 PM
Judo's
 http://www.3riversarchery.com/Product.asp?c=57&s=43&p=59&i=4200X  
(http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac55/cachambers/judo.jpg)
 

Blunt's
http://www.3riversarchery.com/Ace+Hex+Blunts++Glue-On+Small+Game+Heads_c0_s0_p0_i4925X_product.html
(http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac55/cachambers/hexheads.jpg)
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: LongbowGuy83 on January 26, 2010, 10:39:00 PM
I've never had any judos break LPC. Shot rocks, green stumps, trash cans, all other manner of stuff.
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: Tsalagi on January 26, 2010, 10:49:00 PM
I discovered that steel glue on blunts and ash shafts are the way to go for stumping
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: K. Mogensen on January 26, 2010, 10:56:00 PM
Just some normal plain jane blunts...
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 27, 2010, 08:46:00 AM
for me, judos are the ONLY way to go roving!  i make sure the judo points match the weight of my broadheads, too ...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/nut7.jpg)
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: sj_lutz on January 27, 2010, 08:55:00 AM
If small game season is in, I'll go with either Hammer's or Hex's, if it's not in, Judo's all the way.
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: woodchucker on January 27, 2010, 09:14:00 AM
WINGNUTTERS!!!!!!!!!!   :bigsmyl:  

The "un-loosable" nutter!!!!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: Izzy on January 27, 2010, 09:49:00 AM
Judos and Ace Hex with the nod going to the Hex.Judo arms will break but you have to really try.I have some that have been shot 1000 times maybe and theyre fine.They shoot just fine with only 3 arms anyway.The Hex heads get through brush a whole lot better are still pretty good at staying right where the hit after the concave front scoops mud and dirt.
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: centaur on January 27, 2010, 10:32:00 AM
Judos are great, as are 38 special cases. I have also discovered the Head Saver that 3Rivers sells. The best $2.70 you will spend if you are doing a lot of stumping . They have saved me losing heads that break off when you hit something that is a bit too tough.
http://search.3riversarchery.com/search?asug=head&w=head+saver
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: George D. Stout on January 27, 2010, 10:35:00 AM
For hunting distance just about any tip will work for placement purposes.  Judos, Hammers, Hex Heads, Nutters, etc.  I like plain old screw in blunts too...they are cheaper than specialized heads and work fine.
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 27, 2010, 10:46:00 AM
the thing is, judos hardly ever (never ever, for me) get lost 'cause the don't snake under grass and brush like all the other roving heads.  yeah, judos cost more, but so does a good shaft.  i'd rather save the whole arrow.  ymmv.
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: Kenneth on January 27, 2010, 10:53:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Rob DiStefano:
for me, judos are the ONLY way to go roving!  i make sure the judo points match the weight of my broadheads, too ...

 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/nut7.jpg)
Rob,  I use the steel adapters on mine also but I'm curious about the nut.  What size is that?  How much weight does it add?  Do you glue it on?

thanks,
Ken
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: xtrema312 on January 27, 2010, 12:28:00 PM
Judos, Hammers, and Hex Heads for me.  Judos don't have alot of weights for standard screw in so I only have 125's.  Hex heads are lower cost than Hammers, but I like the Hammers better because the seem to grab stuff just a little better.
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: razorback on January 27, 2010, 12:32:00 PM
Can anyone post pictures of their homemade stumpin/smallgame heads. I like the idea of home made stuff, especially those wingnut varieties.
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 27, 2010, 12:39:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by xtrema312:
.. Judos don't have alot of weights for standard screw in so I only have 125's. ..
if ya shoot carbons or alums, those light judo's are easy to convert to really heavy judos by using the glue-on judo head coupled with a 25 to 43 grain alum adapter or a 75, 100 or 125 grain steel adapter.  

as you can see in my judo pic above, i used an alum adapter with an epoxied on 20 grain nut to hit the head weight i was after for my daughter's longbow.
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: Jerry Jeffer on January 27, 2010, 01:09:00 PM
I made these. Cost a lot less then Judos.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f196/jjeffer/HMjudos.jpg)
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: boznarras on January 27, 2010, 01:38:00 PM
The Head Saver product that centaur recommends looks a lot like Shrink Tubing sold for covering wire connections in marine applications. It comes in various diameters and can be bought in bulk quantities, and (sometimes)in colors...check marine elctronics stores/fishery suppliers/hardware...You can also get it with a sealant inside that oozes out upon shrinking, to waterproof the joint.
I had not seen this before; in addition to its advertised use, it looks like a quick way to get some of the benefit of footings, or put over footings to help hold them in place.
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: tradtusker on January 27, 2010, 01:41:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by LongbowGuy83:
Judo's
  http://www.3riversarchery.com/Product.asp?c=57&s=43&p=59&i=4200X  
 (http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac55/cachambers/judo.jpg)
 

Blunt's
 http://www.3riversarchery.com/Ace+Hex+Blunts++Glue-On+Small+Game+Heads_c0_s0_p0_i4925X_product.html  
 (http://i885.photobucket.com/albums/ac55/cachambers/hexheads.jpg)
the best two right there!
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: crack a toa on January 27, 2010, 06:00:00 PM
judos for sure! you wont loose the arrow
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 27, 2010, 06:19:00 PM
razorback I just made some heads for small game today check it out.small game head home made
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: vtmtnman on January 27, 2010, 08:12:00 PM
I swore by judos till I tried hex heads.I prefer the hexs now only because they easier to deal with as far as carrying them.I use the big kondor judos and they don't fit into my back quiver.
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: LongbowGuy83 on January 27, 2010, 08:37:00 PM
I thought those big kondors were for birds or something. How big is the spread on those kondors?
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 27, 2010, 08:41:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by LongbowGuy83:
I thought those big kondors were for birds or something. How big is the spread on those kondors?
2" arms, waaaaaay to big for stumping, imo.  regular judos are truly the way to go - won't snake under the turf, easily fit into most any kinda quiver, don't get lost.
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: frank bullitt on January 27, 2010, 08:56:00 PM
3 blade 180 grain broadheads! Broadheads, broadheads and broadheads!

I don't shoot deer with judos, matter fact, I'm not real keen on shooting judos anymore. I have, not anymore.
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 27, 2010, 09:04:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by frank bullitt:
3 blade 180 grain broadheads! Broadheads, broadheads and broadheads!

I don't shoot deer with judos, matter fact, I'm not real keen on shooting judos anymore. I have, not anymore.
steve, you rove and stump with ... broadheads???

yikes!  can't get away with that in most places i know of, for too many reasons.
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: RunninWild77 on January 27, 2010, 09:12:00 PM
Judos if you can afford them, but if you wanna go cheap you can use old shell casings like a .38 if your shooting wood.
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: frank bullitt on January 27, 2010, 09:42:00 PM
Rob, just was out tonight. Shot stumps, rootballs of blown down trees and creek bank and ditches.

I was hoping for a squirrel or a coon to come along. Nothing moving! Snow squall came in when I was out. Can't figure.

I've been shootin this same 3 blade, 180 grain Thunderhead for a couple years. Not promoting them, but it has been a good stumping head, and the weight is good for my arrows.

I would say, if you folks are shootin them there snuffers and woodsmans, have at it!
Good practice.
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: frank bullitt on January 27, 2010, 09:49:00 PM
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: Covey on January 27, 2010, 09:51:00 PM
The woods where I do all my stumping has a bunch of ceder stumps. Them stumps are like iron and other than digging a few out Ive never broke or lost a judo. Excellant roving heads! JMO, Jason
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: Eric Sprick on January 27, 2010, 10:32:00 PM
I stump shoot probably more than anything...Judos are the only way to go IMO.
Have fun, I love it.  Eric.
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: Ssamac on January 28, 2010, 12:53:00 AM
So where can you legally stump shoot? Have a State park in town but shooting as far as I know is not permitted. However you can shoot an arrow in city limits and the park is in city limits. Go figure. So you can't hunt in the state park but you should be able to stump in the state park since you can shoot a bow in your front yard. Right?
Title: Re: Stump shooting
Post by: Jerry Wald on January 28, 2010, 01:06:00 AM
WOW - Ssamac

I couldn't live there for sure....sorry. The reason for the state park probably is cause of the ppl just roaming around in there...just a guess.

Here we can't hunt in the city, but it only takes 10 minutes to be outside of it.....then it's pretty much open to wander...not much fencing within 20 miles of town at all.

From where I keep my horse I am 5 minutes on horseback and I won't see another person all day.

Jer Bear