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Title: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: suttoman on January 26, 2010, 12:35:00 AM
I ordered my third Firefly from Jim about 9 months ago. With my busy programme and his orders I did not receive it until last week. Still being so busy with my new job I did not have time to shoot it properly until today. The 26th being Australia Day and a public holiday - it was my ideal chance.

My last Firefly was almost perfect but because I shoot full high-wrist I got to thinking about my perfect bow. I sent Jim a tracing of my hand and instructions and measurements for the grip, the timber I wanted and the spec's.

She is Bubinga grip, Red Elm on the belly of the limbs and Carbon on the back. I stuck with my usual 62" draw and 42# @ 28. However at my draw she is pulling closer to 46-47#.

Well I did not think that Jim could up the ante anymore - but I was wrong. You have probably read my rave about his bows in the product section. However for this baby he pulled out all stops.

It is much more stable and quiet than my other two. He has changed the construction of his limbs and they are much more stable, quiet and with the carbon - even quicker.

However I am not happy. I only shot a handful of arrows out of it today and got my second ever Robin Hood (and that is shooting trad for over 20yrs). At this rate it is going to cost me a lot of arrows - ha ha.

Well done Jim - you have just re-established yourself as one of the leaders in the construction of Traditional archery tackle - merging the boundaries of modern materials with the skills of a gifted Artisan.

As I have said before - I have had over 20 new bows from the States in the last five or six years. They range from the B/W's to the Predator to Fox to Quest, Morrison and all the ones in between. I only shoot Firefly now - all the others have gone by the way. I think that may say it all.

sutto

PS Just wondering if some kind soul could whack up my photos - still haven't worked that part out yet.


 http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l167/suttoman/Resizeoffirefly1.jpg  

 http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l167/suttoman/Resizeoffirefly2.jpg  

 http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l167/suttoman/ResizeofRotationofPKS_2387.jpg  

 http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l167/suttoman/Resizeofphil.jpg  

 http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l167/suttoman/ResizeofRotationofPKS_2390.jpg  

 http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l167/suttoman/ResizeofRotationofPKS_2391.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l167/suttoman/ResizeofPKS_2397.jpg
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: Wannabe1 on January 26, 2010, 12:44:00 AM
Ya, that bow is definitely defective! You need to send it my way and I'll straighten it out!   :clapper:
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on January 26, 2010, 01:07:00 AM
Let's see if this works:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l167/suttoman/Resizeoffirefly1.jpg[/IMG]

oops!  image too large, please resize no wider than 640!  thanx!
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on January 26, 2010, 01:11:00 AM
Right-oh, that worked, so here goes:

 (http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l167/suttoman/Resizeoffirefly2.jpg)

 (http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l167/suttoman/ResizeofRotationofPKS_2387.jpg)

 (http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l167/suttoman/Resizeofphil.jpg)

 (http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l167/suttoman/ResizeofRotationofPKS_2390.jpg)

 (http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l167/suttoman/ResizeofRotationofPKS_2391.jpg)

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l167/suttoman/ResizeofPKS_2397.jpg[/IMG]

oops!  image too large, please resize no wider than 640!  thanx!
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: suttoman on January 26, 2010, 01:12:00 AM
Onya Ben - knew you could do it big Fella.

Sutto
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: vtmtnman on January 26, 2010, 04:55:00 AM
Great looking bow.Congrats on the RH. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: cacciatore on January 26, 2010, 05:13:00 AM
Excellent.
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 26, 2010, 05:36:00 AM
very nasty bow, sutto.  i can help.  ship it off to me for a good spanking and i'll return that tamed down bad boy to you, ummm, errr ... eventually.   :D       :wavey:
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: xtrema312 on January 26, 2010, 07:05:00 AM
Nice    :thumbsup:  I am on the list for a 62".  I am still trying to make up my mind on woods.
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: Tater 2 on January 26, 2010, 08:00:00 AM
That is just wrong!!

 First off you got a great new bow!
 Second your hanging out is shorts and no shirt and I am freezing my tail off!

         Enjoy the new bow !!
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: cacciatore on January 26, 2010, 08:10:00 AM
I looked at Braveheart Archery and Jim's boes are really stunning and an incredile price if the shoot just the half of what they look....
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: cacciatore on January 26, 2010, 08:14:00 AM
Damn my fingers run faster than my eyes.So this is:I looked at the Braveheart Archery site and Jim's bows are really stunning and at an incredible...
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: buckster on January 26, 2010, 09:25:00 AM
Super nice bow Sutto, but don't think I could shoot it with that big hat! Congratulations.
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: Oregon Okie on January 26, 2010, 10:12:00 AM
I like that. With apologies to Jim I did some mods on my firefly that put my hand up nice and close to the shelf like you have and I made it a higher wrist setup by adding some material under my hand. Now has a grip that looks pretty similar to yours except now covered with a rubber grip due to the extra material.
Great looking riser and nice shootin'

What is changed about the limbs if you could elaborate? Just curious in case I need to get another one sometime.
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: jacobsladder on January 26, 2010, 10:38:00 AM
ive got jims route 66 firefly.... best bow ive ever had...
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: kestimator on January 26, 2010, 10:49:00 AM
Suttoman,

Perhaps I may be of assistance.  I've got several bows here at the house that will not damage arrows like that.  At least not in my hands.  If you'd like we could probably work out a trade.  I feel quite confident, that I could shoot your Firefly without experiencing any "Robin Hoods".  I'm at least willing to risk it.  Let me know if I can help  :)
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: NorthernCaliforniaHunter on January 26, 2010, 10:55:00 AM
That is uuu....uuuu....uuuugly! ( I meant the bow - not the shooter! LOL!!)

You could do with a little less funk in your life, I'm sure. Go ahead and send me the bow, I'll help you out with that   :thumbsup:  

Very nice bow, very cool Robin-Hood. Congratulations! Oh, and nice work Jim.
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: straitera on January 26, 2010, 10:56:00 AM
Well done ozzie dude. Bow's a beauty! Might need some extra arrows if you keep stacking 'em like that.
Title: Re: Not happy with Jim Jones Firefly!
Post by: suttoman on January 26, 2010, 04:06:00 PM
Somebody asked about the limb difference.

I compared the two and the earlier ones have just the bamboo cores - I think three layers.  The ones on the new bow have the two layers of bamboo (I hope I am correct - I am at work and the bow at home but this is what I remember), and one layer of Action Maple.  Well it looks like Maple and it is all glued together in those thin strips.

Whatever else he has done has made for a very quiet bow.  I shoot with nothing on my string and it is exceptionally quiet.  I am going to order one of those fancy wizz-bang strings that Jim is selling at the moment.  Actually if you read this Tim can you chime in and give some info on those new skinny strings.  I heard they make the bow even faster and more quiet.

Sutto