BCY has a new polyester (dacron) material on the market called B-55. They advertise low stretch and increased durability, but still safe for all bows.
I haven't tried it yet, but I have material samples on the way. Once I look it over, I'd like a few serious shooters to try it out and give me some feedback--noise, stretch, creep, feel, etc.
If you are interested, e-mail me at chad@recurves.com.
Chad
Very interesting,I think my old Bears will like it.
B55 has been around for 10 years or more. I had problems with breaking strings at the metal nocking point.
Chad,
I have a few older Bears,Wings, Pearson that use dacron. Will follow this to see where it leads. Thanks for the input.
Shaun, B-55 is brand new. My guess is you are thinking of B-75 (Brownell). That material was taken off the market years ago, for the reason you noted. BCY had a similar material then, PENN 66, that was also taken off the market.
Those two materials are why I plan to do a lot of testing before offering strings made from any new material.
Chad
Tom, give me a holler or shoot me an e-mail.
Chad
Sounds like a good idea. Quiet, safe and did I say quiet bow strings...... I'll keep it in mind.
Thanks
... mike ...
Thanks for the info,I may try some.
If you want to send it in Italy I would like to test a 56" to fit my 60" Kodiak TD.I shot hundreds everyday.
You may be right about B75. I just remember is was like B50 but low stretch - and that it broke!
I'm not serious but it sounds pretty neat. I just ordered a bunch of BCY B-50 though...
cacciatore, send me an e-mail to chad@recurves.com .
Shaun, I'm positive. I was making strings back then also, and had reservations about those two materials from the get-go. I posted those reservations on a different site (this was before TG existed), where a popular string maker (no longer in business) was touting it as the best thing since sliced bread.
I was referred to as pretty much everything but smart and honest for voicing my concerns, just before both materials were pulled from the market because they were breaking with no warning. No way I will ever forget that fiasco.
Chad
QuoteOriginally posted by LBR:
cacciatore, send me an e-mail to chad@recurves.com .
I was referred to as pretty much everything but smart and honest for voicing my concerns...
Chad
I bet I can guess the website!
It sounds interesting. I have a 55# Mahaska longbow that takes B50, but the hand shock is awful with it. I am using a skinny D97, padded and served with yarn on it now...zero hand shock! I wonder if B55 would have less shock than B50. Do you know what the strand strength is? How does the cost compare to B50?
cool news, chad. be interested to hear the scoop from the testers. hope it's no where near like the dreaded penn66!
"I wonder if B55 would have less shock than B50. Do you know what the strand strength is? How does the cost compare to B50?"
If it has less stretch, it will have less shock. BCY doesn't publish breaking strength anymore, but they reccomend the same number of strands as they do with B-500. No idea on the cost yet, but I figure it will only be a little more than B-500.
"hope it's no where near like the dreaded penn66!"
You and me both! There's been a lot of awful string materials hit the market over the years, and a lot of them got dang good reviews for a little while. I plan to put this stuff through the wringer for a while before offering it to the general public.
Chad
If you need someone else to give you feed back "I'll be your huckleberry!"..lol I love twisting up strings!
God bless,Mudd
Keep us posted on your results, Chad. I roll my own, and I still have plenty of D97 and B50 on hand, but if this stuff has the advantages of both, I could be tempted.
Thanks for testing it out for all of us! :thumbsup:
Russ
Chad is right B.C.Y. makes B500 not B50 B.C.Y. makes the finest materal for bow strings and is allways updateing its products,
Chad,
I sent you an e-mail re: new string material. Sounds like a real winner, if it's all it's cracked up to be.
Kevin
Interesting, any idea what the difference is from standard B-50? Wonder if they are just deriving poly from a different/better manufacturing process.
Any idea what the material used in the string are and in what proportions?
Chad,you have a Mail.
Thanks for the response! I believe I have all the testers I can handle now. Honestly I don't know if I will have enough material to cover everyone that responded, but we'll see. I should have it late this week or early next week, and hope to get started on the test strings next week, after some initial tinkering myself.
I should have said this earlier, but I forgot.
This material is brand new--to me and everyone else. I don't expect the same thing to happen as with PENN 66/B-75, but I can't promise. I can't accept responsibility if you have a string break without warning. I'm going to check it out as best I can before I send out any test strings, but I can't promise anything. If you are bothered by this, just send me an e-mail to take your name off the list.
All I ask in return is an honest report. How much stretch/creep, noise (more/less/same), hand shock, durability, etc. etc. etc. I don't mean shoot two dozen arrows with it, send me a few comments, and you are done. I want to hear initial impressions, but also how it works in the long haul, or after a few thousand arrows.
Again, thanks for the response, and hopefully we'll get this thing going soon.
Chad
dang...I've been using b50 for a LONGGGGG time with no problems.
i remember a B-66 (i still have a partial spool of it, too) guess it had it's problems is why i couldn't get more of it...
I'm hoping this new material will fix, or at least reduce, my main gripe with B-50 or B-500---way too much stretch/creep. I could get by with it if I had to, like I could get by with a mule instead of my truck if I had to, but.......you get my point.
Chad
I really like B-50 on my recurves (like the soft feel of dacron on my fingers and ease of getting bow quiet) and for some reason don't seem to have too much problem with creep or stretch.
Granted I only shoot bows in the 45# to 50# range, but have had good luck with 14 strands B-50 made endless loop. Maybe it's the way I break them in, but I even leave them strung (hung horizontally by the string on two pegs) and they pretty well stay locked at the proper brace height. I just measured my Predator which has been hanging here for months and brace is right where I left it at 7.5".
Granted, if I lived/hunted in high humidity and temps above 60 deg a lot I bet my experience would be different. Ever hear of places with climates like that, Chad? :D
Man........you are killing me! When I used to shoot dacron, even on bows under 50#, I had to constantly check and adjust the brace. On the 82# I used to shoot, it was awful. 90+ degree weather will do that......
I have to agree Chad- even in early June in Canada- which isn't nearly 90 degrees- I have to check and adjust my brace ht. almost daily. Plus, right or wrong, I'm scared to death of fast flight; my bows are all forty years old or older. I sure hope this stuff pans out. Grant
I will be watching this Thread!! :readit: Plus, You can NEVER have too many BowStrings in the Tackle "Storage"/Possibles Bags!! :archer:
if ya goof and twist one up too short...say 47 actual.....ya can send it my way :D
cant wait to hear some feedback on it. Gonna be offered in the usual b50 colors?
As far as I know it will be offered in all the standard BCY colors. Hopefully it will get here this week so I can start tinkering.
Chad
I only have B50 on one bow, a Schafer and do not have any problems with creep/streach. When I put a new string on I leave the bow strung until it stops streaching, reset the brace periodically during this time, then when it stops streaching I shoot 100 or so arrows and check it, if need be I reset the brace and am good to go from there, normally once I reset it after leaving it strung I do not have to adjust again and I live in high humidity and heat here in the tropics.
Danny
Danny, that is basically what I do too. I put the string on the bow with NO twists and let it stretch a couple days. I will pull it back and shoot it a bit also during that time.
Then, after it has stretched out and "set", I will twist it to proper brace and it pretty much stays put. I also think endless loop makes a difference too.
Chad, I think I will stick with the B50 until you get the B55 tested and are satisfied with the results. I agree with Danny and pretty much do the same thing he does with new strings and that takes care of the stretch and creep problem.
Hi Chad, I have a 70" Bear recurve that needs a new string. I would like to be a tester for that material. Thanks, Bjorn