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Title: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: Ssamac on January 21, 2010, 10:53:00 PM
I always thought that you could not repair a broken arrow. Now I don't mean broken in half but a crack or fracture lengthwise. Then I met a guy at the range who showed me some arrows he repaired - glued with epoxy and clamped.

Well I didn't even want to stand to near but he shot them over and over from a 60# bow and told me some were fixed a year ago.

Is he just lucky? I don't have many cracked arrows and not sure I want to chance this, but just wondering if anyone here has fixed an arrow successfully.

Thanks
sam
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: Jim Curlee on January 21, 2010, 11:02:00 PM
Sam;
Are wood arrow shafts so expensive that you would risk hurting yourself, by repairing a broken shaft.
I wouldn't risk my hide.
I know a guy that has never lost an arrow, he will spend hours looking for a lost arrow, rake up a half an acre, give me a break. Somethings are just not worth the effort. Repairing wood arrows would have to be at the top of the list.
Jim
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: Shakes.602 on January 21, 2010, 11:09:00 PM
My Opinion?  BREAK That BAD BOY, and Call it A LOSS!!    :thumbsup:  Personal Safety call for  YOU  Sam! Better sticking out of the Scrap/Kindling Box, than out of  YOUR ARM!!  Of course, cabbage as much as you can save off of the Shaft before ya Trash it, Feathers (Exacto-Knife) Point (Stumper?) & Nock, Unless the Nock is Cracked.  :archer:
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: Pepper on January 21, 2010, 11:18:00 PM
If you don't care about your own safety, think of those around you.
The risk isn't worth the reward.
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: Fletcher on January 21, 2010, 11:53:00 PM
In general, a glue joint is stronger than the wood around it.  I'd add a foot to a shaft with a broke off point, but I'm not shooting a split shaft no matter how much glue is in it.
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: rickshot on January 22, 2010, 01:29:00 AM
It really only takes a miniscule fault in a wooden shaft to increase the chance of breakage. After decades of shooting woods I had one explode before it got free of the bow and I'll not go into any details here, but I've learned to be far more diligent with checking my equipment.

I have no more reservation with breaking an arrow in my hands than getting into a shooting contest at rocks with my friends...it's a small cost when compared to the rewards. Besides, coffee cans with the feathered ends of shafts sticking out give a bit more color to my surroundings. Of course, my outlook on owning arrows is also a matter of experience and fulfilling childhood dreams...I'm not going to run out anytime soon. Rick.
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: Hud on January 22, 2010, 02:34:00 AM
The problem with a crack in POC is getting glue into the full length, nearly impossible. All arrows can develop problems. I was standing close to someone that was shooting aluminum, and for some unknown reason it broke on release and the point when through his hand. No one saw it happen, just the sound and cursing that followed.
Footing a broken shaft is one thing, fixing a crack is crazy.
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: JAG on January 22, 2010, 08:05:00 AM
You can build a new arrow everyday.  Its harder to do with splinters or a shaft sticking out of your hand or arm.
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: Tom Leemans on January 22, 2010, 08:35:00 AM
I've thrown away arrows that have been creased by other arrows. It is possible that the glue joint is stronger than the surrounding area. It's that surrounding area I'd be very worried about. Those wood fibers are damaged goods. This isn't a static piece of furniture. It will oscillate every time it is shot. It will likely fail if shot  enough .
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: Eric Krewson on January 22, 2010, 08:54:00 AM
It depends on where the damage is for me. If I do a slight robin hood and have a 1" crack at the nock, I remove the nock, spread the tiny crack, apply super glue and clamp the cracked area. Apply new nock and I keep shooting, never had a failure with this type of repair.

If the damage is anywhere from the back of the feathers to the point, the arrow gets broken across my leg.

If it is only the point end of the shaft broken I use a reprarrow footing and restore it to the proper length.
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: getstonedprimitivebowhunt on January 22, 2010, 08:56:00 AM
...thats why God grows new trees ...so we can make new arrows. Get good at it before you walk through the gates !!!
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: Roy Steele on January 22, 2010, 10:48:00 AM
I would'nt but if it was a homemade arrow[primitive]but never a wooden shaft.
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: turkey522 on January 22, 2010, 11:04:00 AM
Scrap it not worth getting hurt or some one else.
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: Ssamac on January 22, 2010, 03:07:00 PM
Thanks Brothers.
I always thought the same but figured maybe I missed something new. Kind of worried me standing very close to the guy, but he said he's been doing it for years and never had a problem.
I have a basket of broken/damaged shafts that I use for spare parts - feathers tips etc. They make nice plant stakes too!

I think I'll stick to using sound shafts. Never had a sound shaft break in my hands but kind of nasty to hear that could happen too. Every time you get out of bed I guess you take some chances, lol.

Let's all be safe and well in 2010. Good shootin

sam
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: Jim now in Kentucky on January 22, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
How in the world could a guy have the POINT of an arrow go through his hand if the arrow broke--unless he over drew so far...Nope. Not even then. I don't get it.
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: Bjorn on January 22, 2010, 03:24:00 PM
Depends on where the break is........reparrow is perfect for repairing breaks behind the point.
And footing has been the standard for hundreds of years.
What's the fuss guys?
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: Bowferd on January 22, 2010, 07:53:00 PM
I'm saving the arrows broken behind the point to foot later, when I acquire the time.
The cracked shaft is a horse of a different color. I'm saving those to use as pegs in the Pine wall for hanging my bows and quivers, and I'm leaving the fletching on.
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: rraming on January 22, 2010, 09:21:00 PM
Here is what I would do, break it in half, smell the cedar and throw it in the trash - if it's not cedar, don't bother smelling it.
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: jcar315 on January 22, 2010, 09:44:00 PM
I don't think I have ever "cracked" an arrow. I have broken lots of them but most were broken by the point of the arrow and I keep them and cut them down for my kids to shoot.

I have "split" some but it never would have even occured to me to even try to save them as they were in two seperate pieces.
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: frank bullitt on January 22, 2010, 10:11:00 PM
I read this post earlier today, and thought, Well I'm crazy!

Nothing new to people who know me.

I have and probably will repair split, cracked and broke arrows. Who said something about furnitue, static wood, Uhhhh! Laminated bows, glued, not static?  :help:  

I have been shootin, and killed a squirrel with an arrow that was split at Cloverdale, at the ariel launcher this past summer!

Cedar, split down the nock, almost full length.
Titebond glue and new nock!

If your standing next to me at the bales this
summer, and I pull out an arrow with red fletch......RUNNNNNNNNN  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: frank bullitt on January 22, 2010, 10:19:00 PM
Oh, and I forgot to tell you, I will be shootin one of those "Skinny" strings at probably 269ft a sec. Super quiet, so when it hits, it will be all over in no time!
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: Ssamac on January 23, 2010, 02:52:00 PM
Right
These arrows were split lengthwise. Kind of odd in a way you would think the split would be at one end or the other but they looked like a fracture. Long split with one side open. If you looked close at some (he had 2 or 3- I mean he was shooting some good arrows too) you could see the line where they were glued. He told me he used a 2 part epoxy.

If the tip or nock cracks, I'll fix those as long as it's not too deep. That's different. first of all the point or the nock holds them closed and protects them. But I'm not talking about a little split like that. I'm talking like more than half the length.

sam
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: reddogge on January 23, 2010, 03:22:00 PM
I had a "hanger" in a target last year and another arrow took a little diagonal chunk out of it about 6" from the point maybe 1/2" long by 1/8" deep.  I used a jeweler saw and cut two diagonal cuts down the the base of the gouge and filed the bottom smooth.  I then cut and filed a matching piece of cedar arrow and epoxied it into the gouge and clamped it.  After dry I dressed it down to the shaft and put some finish on it.  I've been shooting it over a year and it's taken some abuse.  I'm not cheap but like a little challenge.

I wouldn't try a serious split though.
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: Don Stokes on January 23, 2010, 09:28:00 PM
If I "Robin Hood" one, and the break is clean from the nock down a few inches, I can repair it with super glue. I've done quite a few that way. I won't do it unless the split-off piece comes completely off, so that I can glue the whole break, and then put the new nock over the end of the split.

I'm cheap, but careful.
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: jomama on January 24, 2010, 04:57:00 PM
after mine break they become plant steaks.
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: lpcjon2 on January 24, 2010, 05:40:00 PM
I cut them and make bow and quiver holders out of the ends
Title: Re: Fixing Wood Arrow Shafts
Post by: frank bullitt on January 24, 2010, 07:29:00 PM
Ssamac, my arrow was split almost half the length. If your not sure, split it the rest of the length, glue back. I have done this also.

Like reddoge, I like a challenge, too! I first tried this after footing together two broken shafts, after reading a how-to article.

Yes, there is always a risk, but just look at the post of the bow that broke at the handle. And what about finger spliced selfbows?

If your comfortable with the mating surfaces and glue, should'nt be a problem.