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Title: D97 strands per lb chart
Post by: kybowman on January 20, 2010, 06:59:00 AM
This question is for all the D97 skinny string experts. Anyone have a chart showing the strands per pound of draw weight? What is considered nominal, not pushing the envelope?   :confused:  

thanks
kybowman
Title: Re: D97 strands per lb chart
Post by: JRY309 on January 20, 2010, 07:57:00 AM
I have been making and shooting 8 strand D97 for bows up to 58#@28 so far without any problems.They are quieter then my 12 strand D97,I've going to try 6 strand for a 45#@28 bow I have.But 8 strand has been working great on my bows from 45# up to 58#,and I do pad my loop ends to make the ends a larger diameter to better fill the string grooves.
Title: Re: D97 strands per lb chart
Post by: CJC on January 20, 2010, 08:00:00 AM
6 strands to 50#
8 strands to 60#
10 strands to 70#
etc...

these numbers are imho very safe, conservative.  some will tell you that you could get away with more, and you can. this is what i consider not pushing the envelope.
Title: Re: D97 strands per lb chart
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 20, 2010, 08:02:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by CJC:
6 strands to 50#
8 strands to 60#
10 strands to 70#
etc...

these numbers are imho very safe, conservative.  some will tell you that you could get away with more, and you can. this is what i consider not pushing the envelope.
yep!    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: D97 strands per lb chart
Post by: Jerry Ragle on January 20, 2010, 08:06:00 AM
with proper care how long will these strings last
Title: Re: D97 strands per lb chart
Post by: craig1955 on January 20, 2010, 08:50:00 AM
What is the breaking strength of one strand of D97?
Title: Re: D97 strands per lb chart
Post by: kybowman on January 20, 2010, 09:13:00 AM
Thanks guys!!!
Title: Re: D97 strands per lb chart
Post by: LBR on January 20, 2010, 01:00:00 PM
Dynaflight is rated at 125# test per strand, or used to be when BCY published this data.  It can vary though.  Pretty sure they won't put out a "tiny string" chart due to liability concerns.

I personally am not comfortable with "just enough".  Tiny strings are more susceptable to getting cut, wear, etc.  I don't like to go with less than 8-10 strands, even on light draw weights.
Title: Re: D97 strands per lb chart
Post by: Greg Skinner on January 20, 2010, 02:30:00 PM
CJC's chart is good.  However, I have been using 6 strands of DF97 with loops padded to 16 on several bows in the 52-54 lb range and have had no problems whatsoever with either creep or outright failure.  On my 57 - 60# bows I use 8 strands. Some of these strings have been in use for a year or so. I actually don't know that there would be a detectible difference from 6 to 8, so when I rebuild new strings I will likely just go with 8 strand for all of my strings for the sake of uniformity.  I have to admit to being a little apprehensive when I first began using the skinny strings, but I am sold on the idea now after a lengthy trial period. I do wax and inspect my strings regularly, but I don't see the need to replace them any more often than  12 strand with proper care.  If one strand frays or gets cut I replace the string anyway, whether 6, 8 or 12.
Title: Re: D97 strands per lb chart
Post by: David McLendon on January 20, 2010, 02:37:00 PM
The issue with low strand count dyneema based strings is not so much the strength but with the creep. Low to no creep materials such as BCY450+ or Ultra Cam are in my opinion better suited to low strand count strings not so much because of a strength advantage but because of the lack of stretch and creep in the material. I shoot an eight strand Ultra Cam string on a BW PAX 60#@28" that has been rock solid for over 1000 shots and I may go to six.
Title: Re: D97 strands per lb chart
Post by: Caleb the bow breaker on January 20, 2010, 03:03:00 PM
are those numbers for 28 inch draw?  if so what does a shorter or longer draw due to the chart.  It seems like powerstroke should have an effect.

Caleb
Title: Re: D97 strands per lb chart
Post by: kybowman on January 20, 2010, 03:04:00 PM
Would six strands of D97 hold up to 60#@28"???????  :eek:
Title: Re: D97 strands per lb chart
Post by: CJC on January 20, 2010, 03:41:00 PM
thats  pushing the envelope.  why chance it?   8 is way more sensible!
Title: Re: D97 strands per lb chart
Post by: Oliverstacy on January 20, 2010, 06:24:00 PM
An 8-strand D-97 is skinny...an 8-strand 8125 is even smaller (noticeably)...how small must one go?

I had a 12-strand D-97 sent to me for an actual measurement the other day...it had two strands cut, one of each color/bundle!  You cut one strand each on an 8 strand string and your down to 6...and so on...be careful!

Josh
Title: Re: D97 strands per lb chart
Post by: David McLendon on January 21, 2010, 08:50:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by kybowman:
Would six strands of D97 hold up to 60#@28"???????   :eek:  
I wouldn't try it, it would likely never stop creeping. That's why I switched to 450+ and then to Ultra Cam. For a good stable and therefore safe skinny string you have to be able to eliminate the creep.