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Title: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Zradix on January 20, 2010, 01:39:00 AM
I'm pretty taken by the look of these bows. Just wondering if anyone has experience with them. Quality, speeds, forgiveness, hand shock..etc. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!!
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Shakes.602 on January 20, 2010, 07:58:00 AM
I Just Got an  "American LongBow" Model  from  "DAVE"  at Siegeworks!!   :thumbsup:     AWSOME BOW!!   :archer:
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Buckwheaties on January 20, 2010, 08:41:00 AM
Dave.. Not Dan.. I've got one on order. will advise..
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Chester Thompson on January 20, 2010, 08:46:00 AM
Will be watching this one, since I am interested in one too.
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Mudd on January 20, 2010, 09:19:00 AM
There's more than a couple of his bows I'd love to get the opportunity to fling some arrows out of.
I'll be watching this one too!
God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Zradix on January 20, 2010, 09:48:00 AM
Cool!
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Zradix on January 20, 2010, 12:50:00 PM
woodie4life... When are you expecting?
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: sw on January 20, 2010, 01:01:00 PM
Woodie4life - Henderson texas - i know who that is  :)

Your bocote is due in end of the week to first of next week  :)  


Dave
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: cacciatore on January 20, 2010, 01:21:00 PM
They look to be very nice bows but I know few about them,I would like to see some reviews me too.
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Danny Rowan on January 20, 2010, 01:28:00 PM
I have a sidewinder and it is fast and quiet with no handshock, and very lite in the hand beautiful bow.
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Possum2 on January 20, 2010, 01:43:00 PM
I don't know if you've check on Stickbow.com they have one listed and I think it is only a few weeks old!
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Buckwheaties on January 20, 2010, 07:50:00 PM
Thanks Dave, Let me know how the grain looks?? I've got a pig hunt lined up for the end of Feb. Sure would like to try it on some of those oinkers??
Zradix, should be  around the end of Feb.
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Capt on January 20, 2010, 08:12:00 PM
I have not shot the Sidewinder but Dave makes a quality bow.  I own a Magyar and have another one on the way.  Plus Dave is a quality guy to deal with.
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Zradix on January 20, 2010, 09:52:00 PM
Awesome!!! Hope you love it! Course if ya don't I have a big mailbox. :-)
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Zradix on January 20, 2010, 09:53:00 PM
Possum... I just looked and couldn't find it. Nuts.. Thanks for the heads up though!
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: sw on January 21, 2010, 12:38:00 AM
Woodie, do you need a loaner Gen III to get some practice? happy to loan out a 45/50# until your bow is done.


Dave
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Zradix on January 21, 2010, 01:59:00 AM
How sweet is that!!   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: BTH on January 21, 2010, 02:04:00 AM
Shot one for the first time today. My friend, Northern California Hunter, has a longbow and I think a Sidewinder or Scythian. Shot the one that is not a longbow...flat out spits the arrow..I'd have to guess it was over 200 fps...looked as fast as my wife's wheelie...very smooth and quiet.
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: sw on January 21, 2010, 02:42:00 AM
BTH - that is prolly one of the best comments i have ever read - your gonna inflate my ego!!!!  :D

Truely tho - the best speed i have gotten has been 212fps on a 8ggp at i believe the sidewinder was 55#. That was at a 28" draw - finger release. BUT it was also made with a boo core and maple veneers and had a slightly pronounced recuve then the normal models. I cut some of the recurve as the bow was fast, stable and smooth, but arrow tuning seemed to make the testers say the bow was a typical shortbow and hard to shoot. Not the case - the bow wants an arrow it likes.....

I recently tested a 55 pound sidewinder with 14ggp and got 158 fps, the arrow was rock sold and sunk into the 30 yard target to the nock.

Currently the best combo i have found is the boo core with maple veneers, i have supercharged the bow design and tested at 30 to 32" draw at 7ggp, they get REAL touchy and hard to tune BUT once tuned - holy cow!!!

Currently i am experimenting with thicker tips that are 3/8" wide and string bridges, the bow is starting to really spit an arrow. I have cut the experimentals to 53 and 55 inches strung and drawing 31". I have broken 212fps on these bows, the test bow is rock solid and going through testing like a champ. I am staying away from carbon for now as i still want to keep prices down....

i am playing with diamondback and cobra skins with claro walnut (oregon black figured walnut) in this short configuration. But the project is slow as i have other things needing to get done.

Dave
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Buckwheaties on January 21, 2010, 03:26:00 AM
Yea, like finish my bow!! (other things to get done) HA HA just kidding.. I went to Daves place and met with him and his wife, nice people, shot the Gen3 and the sidewinder and they are both SWEET bows!! no handshock and quiet.. I can't wait to get mine,, the price is right too!! good people.. nice horses too..
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Zradix on January 21, 2010, 08:22:00 AM
Woodie... What made you decide on the GenIII instead of the Sidewinder??
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Zradix on January 21, 2010, 01:30:00 PM
anyone else
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: sw on January 21, 2010, 08:15:00 PM
What i haqve heard back is that the bow likes 10# heavier spine then rated and that it seems to like a 6.75 to 7.25" brace with a 1/4" high nock. I think people asume that a short bow is hard to shoot and go into it with thier minds made up - this is just not fact.

If i am remembering right - woodie4life went with a Gen III as he liked the looks better and if i am thinking right the one he tested was set at about 40# compared to the sidewinder i had here that was about 50#. BUT - he can certainaly pipe in. I believe he liked both bows equally and was inpressed with both.
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: BTH on January 21, 2010, 09:33:00 PM
Dave, don't let it go to your head   :D  

She has a 24" draw, shoots 40# w/ 350 grain arrows. She's probably not shooting faster than 250 fps from her machine.

Juan, on the other hand, draws that 65# shortbow of yours to 28 1/2 inches with a 630 grain arrow. I'd venture a guess he was reaching 210 or so...like to see it on a chrono. The arrows were flat, fast, straight, and accurate from 20 out to 40 yards. He was tickled pink.

I shot it, and 65# is a tad heavy for me and I'm a lefty shooting a righty bow...it was very nice.
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Shakes.602 on January 22, 2010, 12:11:00 AM
OH CRAP DAVE!!!!  My APOLOGIES Sir!!  I Told Sara I was Heck with Names.   :help:
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Buckwheaties on January 22, 2010, 03:06:00 AM
Been away for awhile. I picked the Gen3, after shooting both (sidewinder/gen 3) because the gen 3 doesn't contact the limbs( a longbow) vs the sidewinder does.(to me a re curve) The speeds are close to the same.. both are very quiet/ with no silencers.. I can't wait to get it.. Thx Dave for the offer to use one of your bow's for my schedule pig hunt but i can't do it w/o enough practice time..
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: LongStick64 on January 22, 2010, 05:18:00 AM
Let's see pics please
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Zradix on January 22, 2010, 08:45:00 AM
I was thinking about picking the GenIII just for the same reason...all other things being about equal. Thanks a lot for the input!
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: jtwalsh62 on January 22, 2010, 12:16:00 PM
what is the name of the new short recurve he is making
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: NorthernCaliforniaHunter on January 22, 2010, 12:42:00 PM
I was blessed with a gift Sidewinder, backed with rattlesnake skins, made with wenge and zebrawood with bone accents. I haven't shot a lot of bows but GOOD LORD is this bow fast!

My other bow, a Seigeworks longbow, is a great bow too but the comparison is night and day. The sidewinder, which I named "Nagini" (I don't usually personalize my stuff, but she's an exception), will no doubt punch through any critter on this continent, and I'm including all the exotics in our zoos! Does anyone have a water buffalo?

Seriously, nice work Dave!

The gifter wishes to remain anonymous but I can tell ya there's an angel walking amoungst us! I will carry this bow to the grave and hopefully someone will be kind enough to stick it in the box along side me.   :notworthy:  

I will post pics this evening.
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: NorthernCaliforniaHunter on January 22, 2010, 04:17:00 PM
O.K... So, it's been raining like gangbusters over here so this is the best background I can come up with for now. Another disclaimer, these photos do the bow absolutely no justice:

(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh375/NorthernCaliforniaHunter/IMG_0102.jpg)

(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh375/NorthernCaliforniaHunter/IMG_0104.jpg)

(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh375/NorthernCaliforniaHunter/IMG_0103.jpg)

Now, there are a few items in a man's life that he picks up and knows will be a part of him for the rest of his days. This here bow dang-near fell out of the sky (it was a gift out-of-the-blue) and is just such an item. It's a piece of art and infused with soul. I don't normally do this but I had to name "her". Her name is "Nagini" which is Sanskrit for snake (female)and the Chi-Rho is there to remind me of all the blessings in my life (and to give the bow extra joo-joo!)

My appologies to Dave (and the anonymous-by-request land-angel on an island in the South Pacific  ;)   ) if it's irksome that I wrote on the bow. You sir, are an alchimist!

(http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh375/NorthernCaliforniaHunter/IMG_0105.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: NorthernCaliforniaHunter on January 22, 2010, 04:22:00 PM
I'm waiting on some stiffer arrows, but with my ADTrad Lites and a much lighter field tip I got some decent and WICKED FAST flight out of this bow, as Toby attested to above. It is might quiet but I doubt I'll need to worry about what little sound it makes as the arrow will get to its target before there's a chance for flinching!
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Zradix on January 22, 2010, 04:50:00 PM
Lucky Dog...lol have fun. Awesome looking bow!!   :bigsmyl:    :clapper:
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: cacciatore on January 22, 2010, 04:55:00 PM
Congrats Juan very nice bow.Zebrawood,Ebony?,snake skins and antler,what other else ask in a bow?
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: sw on January 22, 2010, 05:25:00 PM
WOW.... Ok so now i know tha whole story. The gift, the man that bought the gift and the man that recieved it..... TO COOL!!!!

VERY COOL!!!


Dave
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: Chester Thompson on January 22, 2010, 06:12:00 PM
Wow that is a nice bow, and I wish I had friends like that.
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: NorthernCaliforniaHunter on January 22, 2010, 08:59:00 PM
Dave PM'd me and told me it's the first bow he's ever applied snake skins to... Well, all the more fitting it be named Nagini then!

Yep Dave, very cool indeed.
Title: Re: Anyone have a Seigeworks Creations Scythian GennIII
Post by: sw on January 22, 2010, 10:44:00 PM
was the first sidewinder i put skins on  :)  was the second sidewinder i ever used wenge on.  :)


dave