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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: bohuntr on January 19, 2010, 04:41:00 PM
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Hey folks I have decided I would like to get a used takedown longbow. I have mostly shot recurves because I prefer the mass weight and grip on the takedown recurves I have owned together with the fact that the shelf is generally cut to center. So basically what I am looking for is a TD longbow that has a riser, handle and shelf like those I am familiar with. My favorite bow in the last couple years has been my Big East which has a thumbrest on the riser which I really like. With this in mind I thought maybe I would like a Fedora Extreme since the thumbrest on the Big East is based on Mike Fedora Sr.'s original design. I have posted on the classifieds for a used Fedora Extreme but so far no one has one for sale with the specs I am looking for. I would probably want a 64" bow but would also consider a 62" depending. I am looking for something in the 60lbs range at my draw length of 29 1/2". I would appreciate any input from anyone who has a Fedora Extreme or suggestions on other bows that would fit my criteria. The number one reason I want to go to longbow limbs is to have a quieter bow. While my recurves are not bad with all the silencing materials installed they still are not as quiet as the lonbows I have shot. Thanks for any input you can give me.
Dan
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Firefly- my buddy has 2-3 of the now, very quick, quiet and no handshock...one of the best 3 pc. longbows Ive shot..
Another one to look at is Vermillion River Bows by Bill Pleiger(sp)- me and the buddy who owns the Fireflys got to shoot the 1st one he made and it was the best shooting 3 pc. Ive ever shot period, recurve style grip, very fast, dead quiet and even deader in the hand..
Both of these bows are awesome...
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Dan, I'm redoing a Brack Quest for a guy right now and the grip/ handle on that is fairly large like the Fedora. I know that Brack also makes a 3 piece T/D called a Non-Typical. Not sure if the grip is the same size as the Quest I have here, but might be another bow to keep an eye out for, although I sure don't see them for sale often.
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Hard to beat the A&H ACS CX longbow - They are fast - quiet - light...plus I dropped about 8 lbs of draw weight because they are so efficient pm sent
jer Bear
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Love my ACS-CX and my Morrison Shawnee. Quick, quiet and sweet to shoot.
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Zipper Extreme.
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Try a Horne hybrid T/D Brushbow.
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Originally posted by indianalongbowshooter:
Firefly- very quick, quiet and no handshock...one of the best 3 pc. longbows Ive shot..
Thats what I was going to say. :D
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Originally posted by over&under:
Originally posted by indianalongbowshooter:
Firefly- very quick, quiet and no handshock...one of the best 3 pc. longbows Ive shot..
Thats what I was going to say. :D [/b]
Thats what I was going to say. :D
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Zipper SXT or Schafer or Brack or Cari-bow Silver Fox.
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there are any number of dozens of 3pc t/d longbows that *might* work for ya.
first and foremost are the ergonomics of the grip - if the grip don't fit you must acquit. :D
is the riser sight window big enuf for ya?
the holding weight at yer draw length?
the overall bow length for your hunting venue(s)?
will the craftsmanship and materials work for ya?
see how the above criteria matches up with what's offered on the classifieds, then move on to custom bowyers.
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firefly ... smoooooooth , quiet, and quick
Jim Jones aims to please and the design and craftsmanship is great!!
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Orion from Dryad it is a great longbow smoooth consistent and FAST
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I have shot recurves for more years than I care to admit. Last year at the Compton shoot I shot a 66" 3 piece Foley and loved it and bought it on the spot. Jim
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Dan, another bow to consider is a Leon Stewart Slammer, 3-pc. Beautiful workmanship, has a locator grip (same grip every time you shoot). Leon is from Southeast Pennsylvania. Check out his website... www.stewartsarchery.com (http://www.stewartsarchery.com)
One other note: You mention that your recurves are noisy. My Assenheimer recurve with only string silencers is very, very quiet, another fantastic bow. Wish you the best with your decision.
Jerry
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black creek bows.com .jim is building 3 peice takedown banshee longbows now. very reasonable and a terrific bow and bowyer
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Don't overlook a Morrison Cheyenne or a Black Swan hybrid.
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Roy Hall makes a sweet 3 pc takedown longbow called a scout. You might want to take a look at it on his website.
http://www.navajobows.com/navajotakedowns.html
All his bows draw and shoot sweet.
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Dont leave out the Pronghorns!!
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I recommend an A&H ACS CX with the 16" RC riser. The 16" riser with the 62" limbs will give you a 64" bow. Give them a look, you won't be disappointed.
Mark
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Zipper, Great Plains for me.
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I own a Firefly that fits the bill. Jim can also cut the shelf past center if you like. I had one and sold it :knothead: but got another.
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As already said, there are several models out there to choose from. I WOULD recommend getting one that takes both longbow and recurve limbs;Morrison(Shawnee or Cheyenne),Whisperstik, Zipper, A&H, just to name a couple. This way you can still shoot both(at least I do). You say you like a larger grip so I would recommend a ZIpper. I enjoy a more smaller grip so I choose the Morrison. For a forward handle type bow I'd say the Whisperstik. As always, you need to shoot a bow to find out what you like.
Mike
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I did not see Hummingbird or Crow Creek longbows listed under this thread . There are a lot of good 3 piece longbows, and I have not shot many . These two shoot fast and smooth . Roy
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I recommend an A&H ACS CX with the 14" or 16" riser. I was also able to drop bow weight and maintain great speed. Very effecent bows! You will not be disappointed.
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You're going to get a list of everybody's favorite on this one. From what you described, I wonder if a Bob Lee TD longbow might work for you? Even new, you can get a real deal on one. Check bobleebows.net and the classifieds here.
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For a 3 piece, you might want to try the Orion by Dryad. I like mine.
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Thanks for the input guys!
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bohuntr,
If you really like tht Big East recurve and the grip, I'd hold out for a Fedora Xtreme or the Kimsha Shadow 3 piece T/D longbow. (basically the same bows)
As for as lengths, I have a 30" draw and haved owned a few Fedora Xtremes and Kimsha Shadows and they were all 60" with the 12" risers. They were smooth all the way back to 30" and shot great. These are some hi performance hybrid longbows and the speed will rival any recurve.
Mike
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A Morrison Shawnee will be real tough to beat. Bob will make grip however you want it. Take him one you like and he will copy it for you.
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In 29 posts you have like 23 different bows. :biglaugh: Think about what you like in a bow and find something that fits your style. I will say that I am a Pronghorn fan. Though Bob morrison is making amazing bows.
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If you have a large hand (that would be me).. Crow Creek, Schafer and Foley are good ones for you. All three are quality bows.
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So Dan are you more confused than ever?????
It sounds like you know what you want, just a matter of finding it. I would go with a suggestion from above and call Bob Morrison or Mike Fedora and get what you want.
Also have you thought of getting longbow limbs for the Big East?
Just my thoughts
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Originally posted by blueline: "Also have you thought of getting longbow limbs for the Big East?"
I actually have checked into that Paul and I may still end up doing that. My Big East is at Fedora's right now getting refinished. I asked Mike to look it over to see if he could make some longbow limbs. He told me that he could but since the BE riser is longer than what he would use with the standard Extremes he felt I might have to go to at least a 66" overall bow length to accomadate my draw length without getting some significant stacking. Since the primary use of the bow is for hunting I don't really want to go any longer than 64" if possible. On the other hand I don't want a bow that is stacking as I am getting to the end of my draw length. He also told me that the limbs would probably run in excess of $600.00. So with all that in mind I decided to see if there were any used bows available out there that might approximate what I have in mind. Frankly, if I knew for a fact that the 64" overall length would work well for me I would probably just go ahead and order the limbs from Mike Fedora. Mike was a real nice guy to talk with and I felt he was very honest with me about what he could possibly do in terms of making new limbs.
If anyone else has suggestions let me know your thoughts.
Dan
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Tim Duval makes an excellent hybrid longbow 3 pc. Very smooth and very fast!
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If you end up looking at $600 cost that does open up the door to a custom order with any number of good bowyers, including those already mentioned. Most will design a custom to your specs, including the grip. I've tried a bunch of 3 piece longbows and settled on the RER LX as my all time favorite of all. I didn't mention it earlier because you said you were looking for a used bow with a large grip, and most RER's are smaller than the Fedora. But if you were to order one that certainly could be done.
As I mentioned, I've tried a bunch of different bows and finally found what worked for me. If you really like the grip that you have I wouldn't buy something else unless you can get a grip that will be similar.
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I was 5 yrs old and my dad bought me a Ithaca 20 gauge single shot shotgun for deer season.
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Take a real close look at White Wolf Custom Bows. Tony is offering a 3 piece TD longbow. A real knockout and reasonable as far as bows go. Great color combos and speed too.
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I was looking at 3 piece LB's while touring the trad shoots this past summer. The best shooting one for me was a Hill Country "Wildcat" made by Roman Hershberger. I shot it at Denton Hill and should have brought it home with me. Limbs mounted on the belly side of the riser with a forward handle.
I have owned a Firefly and it was a great bow as well. Certainly lots of good ones out there.
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Crow Creek makes a fine bow and Big Jim's new 3 pc. looks really nice. Mike
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prong horns..........
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Almost all the ones that I would recommend have already been mentioned. I have owned all the below, and plan on keeping at least one of each in my stable.
Crow Creek Blackfeather
Hummingbird
Dakota
Firefly
Zipper SXT
Stewart Slammer
Not necessarily in that order, but I too, like a riser that feels like I have something in my hand and has a locator type grip. All of these are fantastic bows, as are the bowyers that build them.
Winterhawk1960
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Pronghorn.....
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Zipper SXT Longbow, awesome bow and beautiful craftsmanship, Bill is top notch to deal with.
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Eaglewing but you will never find a used one.
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:knothead: :wavey:
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Zipper SXT foam/carb, incredible bow.
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A&H ACS longbow are tough to beat.
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You might really like a Habu Death Adder, but finding one used could be difficult. I know there is one for sale at Raptor archery though.
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I have owned a ACS and i loved that bow but sold it so i could order there 16in riser.
I just recieved my 3 piece Bear Paws bow by Neil Jacobson and he makes one heck of a bow.
I sent him my hand imprint and he custom made the handle to fit my hand and i love it.
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Striker, Rick makes them with a thumb rest and they are very nice bows. He does recurve limbs also.
Just my 2 cents