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Title: Recommendation on small (6x) bowhunting glass
Post by: goosespirit on January 19, 2010, 07:18:00 AM
Hey guys,

I have a pair of 10x Swaros that I use out west and in more open whitetail country that I hunt, but I find they are way too much when doing close to home whitetail hunts.  I am looking for a small, lightweight glass in the 6 or 6.5x range, with the best light gathering.  Any suggestions, I have been looking at some of the Vortex optics.  Thanks, Mike
Title: Re: Recommendation on small (6x) bowhunting glass
Post by: Gene Charbonneau on January 19, 2010, 09:41:00 AM
Another vote for the Leupold Green Ring "Katmai" 6x32.

Great field of view and clarity.
Only ones I use now.
Screw-in eye cups great for use old farts with glasses.  (http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/images/smilies/animated/nerd.gif)
Title: Re: Recommendation on small (6x) bowhunting glass
Post by: Jim Wright on January 19, 2010, 09:58:00 AM
The Leupold "Yosemite" 6x30 glasses are a bargain. I read many dozens of very positive user reviews on optical web sites and the pair I purchased have proven themselves beyond my expectations. They retail for around $125.00 and you can find them on-line for $85.00 to $100.00
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Post by: lpcjon2 on January 19, 2010, 10:36:00 AM
Check out Nachez.com the have great prices for all kinds of optics and blinds and anything hunting.
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Post by: Rick Butler on January 19, 2010, 10:47:00 AM
Got a pr. of the Katmai's also this year. 6x32, great glass!
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Post by: goblism on January 19, 2010, 10:51:00 AM
look into the zen rays, i have a pair of the zen ed2 and they are 99% as good as the swaros at the local shop (the swaros and the zen ed2s were the only binos that could pass the shingle test of a building that was quite a ways out)
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Post by: Orion on January 19, 2010, 10:58:00 AM
If you can find a used pair of Bushnell 6x26 or 7x26 Custom Compacts, they are a very nice glass, small, light and excellent resolution.  Unfortunately, they're not made anymore.  I've also heard very good things about the Katmai 6x32, as others have already noted.
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Post by: JL on January 19, 2010, 11:43:00 AM
I have a set of Eagle optics platinum ranger series 6x32's. Very bright and sharp optics. But like all good things, they discontinued that series. If you can find a set, jump on them. You won't ever regret that move as they back them 100% for life.

Quality 6X glass has a pretty limited selection. Vortex, Leupold, Eagle Optics and Fujinon come to mind. If you can step up, both the Zeiss and Swaro's 7x42's are world class with very wide FOV's (400ft or so at 1000yrds) and bright glass but even discounted, they are in the $1500 range.

I have a set of Vortex 8x42 Stoke DLS's. The DLS's are in the highter end in the Vortex line and are very, very nice glasses.

JL
Title: Re: Recommendation on small (6x) bowhunting glass
Post by: Scott Bradford on January 19, 2010, 11:51:00 AM
Vortex makes a super nice pair of glass IMO.
You can get a reasonable deal on a pair if you do some shopping.  I remember seeing a pair that was half price off, because they were used at a trade show for demonstration last year.  I can't remember the name of the dealer, but it was a camera dealer out of Florida.
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Post by: Glenn Hickey Jr. on January 19, 2010, 11:52:00 AM
I use Leupold "Yosemite" 6x and very happy with them.  Light gathering is good and their size makes them very functional.
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Post by: Ragnarok Forge on January 19, 2010, 12:26:00 PM
Leupold Katmai's.  Best pair of light glass I have ever owned. Compared them to the other higher cost glass and decided on the green rings.  Better light gathering, clearer picture / view, etc.. and way cheaper!  Love them.  I actually bought two pair at the time due to the great price.
Title: Re: Recommendation on small (6x) bowhunting glass
Post by: Bill Turner on January 19, 2010, 12:51:00 PM
Bosch and Lomb use to make a 7x24. If you can locate a pair of these jump on them. This is the same glass Fred Asbell uses and recommends for stalking. I found mine in a pawn shop back in the 80's. You just can't beat good glass.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Bird Dog on January 19, 2010, 02:28:00 PM
I second the Bausch and Lombs 7x...better light gathering. Most glasses in the 6x range just can't gather enough light at sun up and sunset.
Title: Re: Recommendation on small (6x) bowhunting glass
Post by: goosespirit on January 19, 2010, 05:51:00 PM
Bird dog,

I think (could be wrong) that the light gathering capability is much more of a functioin of the objective size, not the magnification.  So, a 6x32 glass will gather more light than a 8x32....Anyone care to chime in,
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Post by: BWD on January 19, 2010, 06:18:00 PM
All else being equal, I agree with goose.
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Post by: lucznik on January 19, 2010, 08:01:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by goosespirit:
Bird dog,

I think (could be wrong) that the light gathering capability is much more of a functioin of the objective size, not the magnification.  So, a 6x32 glass will gather more light than a 8x32....Anyone care to chime in,
It's actually a function of a combination of the two.  "Light Gathering Ability" is roughly measured by the "exit pupil" which is calculated by dividing the size of the objective lens by the magnification of the optic.

Hence a 10x40 has an EP of 4mm; as does an 8x32.  These two glasses would offer roughly the same level of brightness.

A 6x30 glass would have an exit pupil of 5 which is also equivalent to an 8x40 or a 10x50. Thus they would all offer essentially the same level of brightness - and would all be brighter than the above mentioned optics sporting their 4mm EP

Of course, type of glass, build quality,lens coatings (their type, quantity, and quality), degree and quality of internal baffling, and other issues can complicate the matter somewhat but, the exit pupil is definitely the place to start when evaluating the relative brightness of any optic.
Title: Re: Recommendation on small (6x) bowhunting glass
Post by: Ray Hammond on January 19, 2010, 08:18:00 PM
I use Leupold Yosemite's at 88 bucks a pair on line...high quality glass....work with glasses, and they work GREAT.

I've had Leicas and love them but for up close and personal stuff with a bow, these are great for back east.

And with a factor of five, its my understanding that's as much light gathering as the human eye can work with anyway.....
Title: Re: Recommendation on small (6x) bowhunting glass
Post by: wildgame on January 19, 2010, 09:40:00 PM
vortex has some great glass and the company will take care of any problems! a little high on price but i dont care to pay for quality,and they have never let me down.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Day Dreamer on January 19, 2010, 09:51:00 PM
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Post by: L. E. Carroll on January 19, 2010, 10:01:00 PM
I second the 6x30 Yosemite's     :thumbsup:    I picked up a pair of them [ like new and  only $65 to my door]  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Day Dreamer on January 19, 2010, 10:03:00 PM
I ran into the same problem, bought a pair of high end 10x, and they collect dust (for now). Wanted something in the 6x range and did some research, bought the Yosemites, great glass, reviews and price, and very functional. Now that the leaves are down and wide open, I take the 10x out. One good thing about the Yosemites, I don't worry about pampering them compared to the 10x.
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Post by: wojo124 on January 19, 2010, 10:13:00 PM
I just got a pair of 6x30 yosemite's.....love them  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Junglecat on January 19, 2010, 10:49:00 PM
I second the 6x32 Eagle Optics Platinum Rangers.Great little binocular.
Title: Re: Recommendation on small (6x) bowhunting glass
Post by: Don Stokes on January 20, 2010, 11:18:00 AM
Get the best ones you can afford. Money spent on the best binoculars you can get is money well spent. Nothing worse than bad ones.
Title: Re: Recommendation on small (6x) bowhunting glass
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on January 20, 2010, 12:25:00 PM
I inherited a Bushnel 6X44 Monocular with a leather carry bag, other than being a pain to put in and take out of bag, it's pretty cool.

I guess it's supposed to attach to a camera also, but mostly it just sits on a shelf in my shop.......

I use a pair of Nikons either 7X50 or 10X50, depending on wich side of the mountains I am hunting (its thick here on the west side)