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Title: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: TSP on January 18, 2010, 08:56:00 PM
For those who own takedown Pronghorns and have a 28" draw, is there much difference between a 58" and 60" bow re stack?  I'm looking for a used Pronghorn and would prefer the shorter version if stack isn't a problem.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: Dave Pagel on January 18, 2010, 09:47:00 PM
I draw 29 and I shoot a 60 incher, but I had a 56 inch and I didn't notice pinch or stack.  My brother has a 58 inch and he draws it to 28.5 with no issues.

Dave
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: TSP on January 18, 2010, 09:58:00 PM
Dave, does Herb M. even make 58" TD bows anymore?  I noticed they aren't listed on his website now.
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: Bowtie on January 18, 2010, 10:35:00 PM
Tony, I would send Herb an email regardng the 58" TD. I wouldn't doubt that he would make you one.  I really don't think that you'll notice any "stack" difference between the 58" and 60".  I have a 62" and 64" TD and notice no difference at all.  My Pronghorns are the smoothest and quietest shooting longbows that I have.
Jerry
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: FerretWYO on January 18, 2010, 11:18:00 PM
I dont think that you will see stack. Give him a call or email. He will fix you up.
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: jhg on January 18, 2010, 11:34:00 PM
I've shot a few of these in different lengths and stack won't be a problem. But you may find that one length vs another really dovetails better to you than another.
Maybe it will be the 58 incher. But maybe not. It has nothing to do with stack or pinch regarding such a nice bow. Just your individuality.
I hope you can shoot the different lengths just to make sure.

Joshua
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: on January 19, 2010, 10:13:00 AM
I would take Herb's recommendations on bow length--he knows his bows better than anybody and seems to prefer the 60" length.
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: TSP on January 19, 2010, 05:09:00 PM
Thanks for the feedback.  Anybody know what the actual strung length is (measured tip to tip when strung) of a 58" and/or 60" Pronghorn?  I sometimes use a turkey blind and short bows are handy there (thus my interest in a 58"er).  Have heard these bows are a bit longer than other longbows of the same AMO.
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: TSP on January 19, 2010, 09:30:00 PM
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Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: pdk25 on January 19, 2010, 11:13:00 PM
I don't know if any of the others shoot split finger, but I had a moderate amount of finger pinch with a 60" TD pronghorn at my 29.5" draw length.  No stacking, though.
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: TSP on January 21, 2010, 04:39:00 PM
up...
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: artifaker1 on January 21, 2010, 05:21:00 PM
I have several 62s and I draw about 29 or slightly more and that works well. I don't like the feel of the 60" bows, there not quite long enough but they usually shoot well though.
I been making strings for them lately and they are odd, being one inch longer than the stated size. I tye a 64 recurve with small loops for my 62s. And a 62 recurve for the 60s, which I have made a couple by accident when I was adjusting the board for some changes that I made to it. They are definitely one inch longer than the stated size.
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: Pointer on January 21, 2010, 07:40:00 PM
Herb's take downs are longer than standard...put one next to a different make but in the same length and the Pronghorn will be longer.
I have 62" model than draws super smooth out to 31" for me. There's no other t/d longbow that I can do that with among the many I've tried.

I asked Herb about it when I was considering a one-piece model and on the one piece he recommended 64" for my draw.

He told me the t/d is a little long because he measures for it along the belly of the bow in roughly the same arc right across the riser. It's not really an exact measurement so the bow comes out a bit long.

There is no better 3 piece take down than one of Herb's Pronghorns in my opinion...you just cant go wrong with that bow.
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: pdk25 on January 21, 2010, 07:45:00 PM
Great bows, no doubt.  Nothing is for free, however.  Even  without stack, if you have a very long draw, the shorter bows are likely to cause finger pinch for split finger shooters.
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: Shedrock on January 21, 2010, 08:37:00 PM
I have Pronghorns from 56"-66", and love them all.
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: TSP on January 21, 2010, 09:57:00 PM
Shedrock, that's quite a spread for bow lengths.  Can I ask what your draw length is, and whether you see much difference in stack or finger pinch between your different Pronghorns?  I'm not against longer bows (I'm partial to Howard Hills...maybe the king of 'long bows') but for a Pronghorn I'm hoping to get by with as short as I can for my 28" draw...without sacrificing smoothness of draw.
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: TSP on February 04, 2010, 07:22:00 PM
ttt...
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: Craig Warren on February 04, 2010, 07:42:00 PM
Tony,
If the bow is made for a 28" draw, it shouldn't stack until after 28".  One of the benifits of a custom made bow is that it won't (I should probably say shouldn't) stack until just after you reach your draw length.
Finger pinch is another story and that is determined by the angle that the string comes off the nock of the arrow t full draw.  And that is determined by your draw length and the length of the bow nock to nock.

Pronghorns are great bows. Good luck finding the one you're looking for.
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: TSP on February 05, 2010, 08:21:00 PM
Thanks for the feedback, Craig.  I did finally find a bow, in fact it just arrived today (58").  Turns out the length isn't an issue for either stack or pinch, it shoots fine at my draw length (even though tillered for 27") and is actually a 1/2" shorter when strung than is my 58" Super Shrew.  The grip section on this one is amazingly short (apparently made for a small hand) but like a Hill still lends itself to a firm hold, which I prefer.  Nice and quiet, very smooth and throws an arrow surprisingly quick for the poundage (around 48# at my draw).

You're right, Pronghorn's are nice little bows.  I like this one.
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: RLA on February 06, 2010, 01:16:00 AM
I think this might be the bow your talking about? If so when I ordered the bow I was only drawing a little over 27". After some learning curve I now pull 29".
The bow does have a dainty little grip, but I think most of the Pronghorns have a slim grip. This bow had some of the best looking Osage I've seen.  I orderd this one as the all Osage model, cores and all. A very very nice bow, it just didn't fit me, enjoy your new bow! She is a beauty!
   (http://www.angeloholsteins.com/images/Pictures/Hunting/pronghorn-1.jpg)
   (http://www.angeloholsteins.com/images/Pictures/Hunting/pronghorn-2.jpg)
  (http://www.angeloholsteins.com/images/Pictures/Hunting/pronghorn-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: TSP on February 06, 2010, 01:01:00 PM
Yup, thats the bow, Ryan!  I appreciate you chiming in here, it's always nice to hear from a prior owner.  

Actually, I had seen these same pics in your post on another site and recognized that the sideplate was the same as the pic that my seller had on the bow...so I knew it was yours (I could also say I have ESP...but your name's on the bow too, lol).  

Love the bow...except for two things.  The shape of the Pronghorn grip is excellent but lengthwise the grip on this one is very short from edge of shelf down to the top of the limb, only about 3.25".  The riser is 13" long, which also seems  shorter than other Pronghorns I've seen.  The short grip length isn't a problem for those with small hands or who use a 'web' (recurve) hold, but it's pretty tight for using the Hill-style full hand hold that I like.  I can do it though, and the bow does shoot like a dream...super smooth and quiet.  No stack for me and its just about as fast as my 58" Super Shrew, which is a little more poundage.  In fact the bows feel remarkably similar in the draw.

The other 'dislike' is actually a head-scratcher for me....the limbs are nice and bright like your pics but the riser color seems to have turned from bright yellow to a faded 'milky brown', as if the finish was affected by something that was put on it.  Had hoped it would morph into that nice rich darkened amber color that Osage usually gets.  I might contact Herb Meland to see if he can shed some like on why the milky tone happened, and maybe he can offer a cure.  

Anyway, it's definately a well-made, sweet little bow and should be very nice for the turkey blind and ground/treestand hunting in tight quarters (which is 90% of my setups).
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: Wyoming Artifact on February 06, 2010, 10:12:00 PM
Well this is my first post. I just wanted to say that I have 3 of Herbs bows and I have truly enjoyed shooting them. My most recent is a 62" TD. I can say that I have been shooting it as much as I can since I got it. I have another TD and a one piece. I don't shoot the one piece much any more so I may let that one go. I never get any stack or pinch from the 60". I will still hunt with the 60" take down but for just pleasure shooting I have sure enjoyed my new one.
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: TSP on February 07, 2010, 02:40:00 PM
WA, thanks for the input and welcome to the talking end of TradGang.  

I've shot a 62"er before and it shot very nice.  Still, this little 58'er should offer some benefits for hunting.  I guess you could say it'll be a pleasure hunting bow for me.  

Good luck with yours.
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: Cootling on February 07, 2010, 04:17:00 PM
I draw 28-28.5 and have bows in both lengths.  Both great, but I recommend the 60" length.
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: Wyoming Artifact on February 08, 2010, 09:24:00 AM
When I started shooting a long bow I would never have guessed that I would want more than one and then use more then one. Well guess what. I'm glad that my wife is on board with the fun it brings. I am yet to bring home any game with them, but this too will change. Maybe this year. <><
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: autumn spirit on February 08, 2010, 11:11:00 PM
I Just purchased a used Pronghorn from an archery dealer in Colorado. It should arrive tomorrow.  It is a take down 64".  I draw just a hair over 30" and am looking forward to putting her to the test.
It's great to hear all the encouraging words about Mr. Melands bows.
Title: Re: Pronghorn TD longbows...a length question
Post by: craig1955 on February 09, 2010, 07:45:00 AM
64" works good for my 30" draw.