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Title: Stone points not allowed
Post by: 4dogs on January 16, 2010, 04:52:00 PM
Been reading alot lately about guys using stone points to hunt with...really cool but Colorado doesnt allow them for big game at least. Are most of you guys allowed to use them in your states?
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: bohuntr on January 16, 2010, 05:04:00 PM
Not in SD, yet.
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Post by: ChuckC on January 16, 2010, 05:15:00 PM
the regulations in WI are so ambiguous that nobody knows.  I have a letter from the DNR stating they are legal.
ChuckC
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Post by: imskippy on January 16, 2010, 05:15:00 PM
No stone points in Jersey yet either.
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on January 16, 2010, 06:11:00 PM
Yes, In The Republic of Texas
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Post by: George D. Stout on January 16, 2010, 06:19:00 PM
They are okay in Pennsylvania.
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Post by: Mark 507 on January 16, 2010, 06:21:00 PM
Illegal in Minnesota.
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Post by: bbassi on January 16, 2010, 06:25:00 PM
Legal in NY.  :D
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Post by: JAG on January 16, 2010, 06:28:00 PM
Legal in Alabama!
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: TheFatboy on January 16, 2010, 06:30:00 PM
Sounds strange to me how different states have such different views. Stone points have killed game for much longer than steel broadheads - I don't see why they should not be legal. It's too bad.
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: moose eye levi on January 16, 2010, 06:31:00 PM
Legal in OH-IO...wow thats so stupid not to allow them I was unaware they were illegal in some states stone has killed alot more game than steel as already stated.
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: DVSHUNTER on January 16, 2010, 06:31:00 PM
legal in mo just can't be "barbed"
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: Hawkeye on January 16, 2010, 06:59:00 PM
Legal in Illinois as long as not barbed.

But, we're one of only two states who can't be trusted with concealed carry.

IL politics make me ILL...
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: Rick James on January 16, 2010, 07:06:00 PM
Georgia Regulations say that arrow for deer, bear, and feral hogs must be broadhead type--kinda vague.
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Post by: lpcjon2 on January 16, 2010, 07:06:00 PM
Not in Jersey.
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Post by: bondo on January 16, 2010, 07:08:00 PM
O.K. in Arkansas
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: FerretWYO on January 16, 2010, 07:17:00 PM
Wyoming says the point must be metal.
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: Al Natural on January 16, 2010, 07:23:00 PM
Indiana metal edged, flint, or obsidian.
Al
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Post by: Fletcher on January 16, 2010, 07:24:00 PM
As Hawkeye said, stone points are legal in IL.  The requirement for non barbed heads was removed a few years back, so barbed is also legal.
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: ed burgholzer on January 16, 2010, 07:40:00 PM
in pa. the regs used to say "two cutting edges"  the 2009 edition of the regs changed it and says "two cuuting edges of steel"  sounds like we can no longer use stone points..Ed
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Post by: Pepper on January 16, 2010, 07:42:00 PM
Kansas just gave the OK last year.
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: reddogge on January 16, 2010, 07:49:00 PM
In Maryland they must be metal.
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: 4dogs on January 16, 2010, 07:54:00 PM
Wow, alot of difference between states. A friend of mine that works for the dow says that alot of states that let guys use stone have problems with animals not being recovered, says he has seen guys with pretty much a hunk of river rock tied to the end of an arrow. I dont know anyone who would not make sure his points are  razor sharp and have the integrity to do the job but I guess some *(^%$holes would just so they could say they killed with stone.
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Post by: ishoot4thrills on January 16, 2010, 08:44:00 PM
Good to go in KY.
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: Al Natural on January 16, 2010, 08:49:00 PM
4dogs
I would like to see the statistics or dow report. I think the number of individuals actually using stone or obsidian is so small that any states Div. of wildlife couldn't even make a judgement.  How would they compare stone, obsidian head losses with metal edge broadheads? I'm not questioning you or your friend. I would like to see this information if it is available.
Al
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: Wiley Coyote on January 16, 2010, 08:58:00 PM
I was sure that in Ontario broadheads had to be metal but I just checked the regs and there was a special note regarding the simplifying of criteria for broadheads. Broadheads used for big game and turkeys must have at least two sharp cutting edges that are at least 22mm wide.(7/8inch) I think that would allow stone points.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: 4dogs on January 16, 2010, 10:59:00 PM
All Natural, I would like to see some kind of report also but I doubt any have been done. I think he was just expressing his feelings on the subject..he is not a bow hunter and believes nothing less than a 300 mag should be used for elk...he is welcome to his opinions.
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: Ragnarok Forge on January 16, 2010, 11:12:00 PM
Legal here in Washington, can't be barbed
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: WindWalker-AK on January 16, 2010, 11:23:00 PM
Mr. 4dogs,
Legal in Alaska but must be at least 1" wide and non-barbed; as I recall.
Best Wishes
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: bawana bowman on January 16, 2010, 11:31:00 PM
Florida states " braodheads having at least two sharpened edges with minimum widths of 7/8". No explosive or drug injecting tips."

Guess that means stone is legal.
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: Pat B on January 17, 2010, 12:54:00 AM
Fine in NC; no barb. Fine in SC and in GA the regs say for bowhunting it must be a broadhead type arrow.
 I called the head law enforcement guy in Raleigh, NC to find out what they meant by "not barbed". He thought for a second and told me it couldn't look like a fish hook. Then he said I had better ask that would be writing the ticket!
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: Bmac on January 17, 2010, 06:34:00 AM
I'm not sure if Michigan allows them or not.  A search on the State website only turns up specifics for crossbows.  

It says "ARROWS, BOLTS, AND QUARRELS USED FOR TAKING DEER, BEAR, ELK, AND TURKEY WITH A CROSSBOW ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A BROADHEAD HUNTING TYPE OF POINT NOT LESS THAN 7/8 OF AN INCH WIDE AND MUST BE A MINIMUM OF 14 INCHES IN LENGTH."

I'll call a buddy who is a CO and see what he says.
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: wapitimike1 on January 17, 2010, 06:50:00 AM
Legal and used in CT
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: VTer on January 17, 2010, 08:03:00 AM
This is VT's rule as stated, so I'd say yes.

"The arrowhead must be at least
7/8 of an inch in width with two or more cutting edges."
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: NDTerminator on January 17, 2010, 09:10:00 AM
Never bothered to check in ND as it's an issue I'll never have to deal with.  I rather suspect no...
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: J.Williams on January 17, 2010, 09:16:00 AM
Legal in N.Y. but can't be barbed and must be at least 7/8" wide.
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: Mechslasher on January 17, 2010, 09:36:00 AM
i think it just has to be pointy in s.c.  i would bet the farm that the ratio of shot/lost is much higher with steel point hunters.  the people who make the rules don't understand that to even get to the level of being a stone point hunter, one must pretty much have mastered all other styles of hunting.  just to make or trade for a stone point of hunting quality is an adventure in and of itself.  not to mention making an arrow and attaching a stone in a way that will allow the arrow to fly straight takes years of skill.
Title: Re: Stone points not allowed
Post by: T-Bell on January 17, 2010, 11:53:00 AM
Legal In Louisiana -